Justice For David Camm

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WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR: THE ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE JUSTICE FOR KIM, BRAD & JILL FREEDOM FOR DAVID CAMM THE TRUTH...THE SIMPLE TRUTH On September 28, 2000, Kimberly, Bradley, and Jill Camm were shot to death in the Camm family garage, located in Georgetown, Indiana, just a few miles from Louisville, Kentucky. The Indiana State Police (ISP) responded to the scene, as did the local prosecutor, Stanley Faith, who called for the assistance of a blood stain and crime scene re-constructionist. Three days after the crimes occurred, the husband of Kim and the father of Jill and Brad, David Camm, was arrested. In early 2002 David Camm was convicted of their murders and sentenced to 195 years in the Indiana Department of Corrections. Case solved. Case closed. In August, 2004, the Indiana Court of Appeals overturned Camm's conviction. Camm got a new trial. In November, 2004, Prosecutor Keith Henderson recharged Camm after having a "Fresh Eyes" team re-investigate the crime. Camm was re-charged. In March, 2005, another man, Charles Darnell Boney, was charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Camm was re-charged with Boney. In February, 2006, Boney was convicted and sentenced to 225 years in prison. Camm was convicted in March, 2006, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Case solved. Case closed. Those are the facts of this case. Well, at least a few facts. Most people in the metropolitan area of Louisville are convinced that David Camm is a molester and murderer. They are convinced that Charles Boney helped him in some shape, manner, or form. There are those who know many more facts that are thoroughly convinced of David Camm's innocence and continue to fight for him and his family. Read more
camm supporter

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#7373 Feb 14, 2013
McLuvin wrote:
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Maybe Broney slipped on his condoms when he place the shoes on the bronco. He then picked the condoms up and threw them at Camm and they went into the gun and it jammed. Camm then apoligized, they high fived and broney cleaned up the crime scene. Broney then forgot about the backbone sweatshirt, his palm print, and Dna. He also forgot about the 10 quarts of blood on the garage floor and what the hell would Camm of said if he actually did shoot Boney. Hey fellows I went home and shot an intruder when I was suspose to be here with you guys.
worthwhile point...maybe he would have killed boney and come back to the bball game and it would have gone something like this...."guys you aint gonna believe this but i forgot to tape who wants to be a millionaire and i knew kim would have a hissy, so i rushed out to tape it...wouldnt you know this big black dude was there and had already killed my family...so i wasted his black ass (puts up hand for high fives)....ooook.....so since i'm so cold blooded that if i murdered my family in cold blood and molested the crap out my daughter i could just play bball like nothing happened, well now i'm actually innocent so my conscience is clean as a whistle...let's play ball"

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7374 Feb 14, 2013
camm supporter wrote:
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worthwhile point...maybe he would have killed boney and come back to the bball game and it would have gone something like this...."guys you aint gonna believe this but i forgot to tape who wants to be a millionaire and i knew kim would have a hissy, so i rushed out to tape it...wouldnt you know this big black dude was there and had already killed my family...so i wasted his black ass (puts up hand for high fives)....ooook.....so since i'm so cold blooded that if i murdered my family in cold blood and molested the crap out my daughter i could just play bball like nothing happened, well now i'm actually innocent so my conscience is clean as a whistle...let's play ball"
You should never claim to be sane or smart.
Just the Facts

United States

#7375 Feb 14, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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You sure do a lot of assuming. See a trend yet?
Unless you were in that garage that night, you are assuming as well.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7376 Feb 14, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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Unless you were in that garage that night, you are assuming as well.
No dummy, there is a BIG difference between understanding evidence and assuming. As soon as you figure that out you will see the error of your ways. Until you do, you are just a dummy.

You can't stay on track for three comments. We were talking about the molestation.
Just the Facts

United States

#7377 Feb 14, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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No dummy, there is a BIG difference between understanding evidence and assuming. As soon as you figure that out you will see the error of your ways. Until you do, you are just a dummy.
You can't stay on track for three comments. We were talking about the molestation.
So you understand the evidence that Jill was molested? What is it? Please be specific. And I'm not talking about evidence that she was assalted in a sexual manner just before here death. What is the evidence that she was molested by her father?

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7378 Feb 14, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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So you understand the evidence that Jill was molested? What is it? Please be specific. And I'm not talking about evidence that she was assalted in a sexual manner just before here death. What is the evidence that she was molested by her father?
See, you have to interject your opinion into everything because the facts do not support your theory. Who said she was assaulted in a sexual manner "just before her (sic) death"?

You cannot do it. You rationalize your position with nonsense that was never said, never presented and never discussed.

I understand the evidence shows she had injuries consistent with molestation at the time of her death. That does not mean the injury happened at the time of her death. You can try to twist, rewrite and bullshit your way around it all you want, but the fact is Davie boi is a sexual predator and a murderer and he will stay behind bars for the rest of his pathetic life.
Just the Facts

United States

#7379 Feb 14, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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See, you have to interject your opinion into everything because the facts do not support your theory. Who said she was assaulted in a sexual manner "just before her (sic) death"?
You cannot do it. You rationalize your position with nonsense that was never said, never presented and never discussed.
I understand the evidence shows she had injuries consistent with molestation at the time of her death. That does not mean the injury happened at the time of her death. You can try to twist, rewrite and bullshit your way around it all you want, but the fact is Davie boi is a sexual predator and a murderer and he will stay behind bars for the rest of his pathetic life.
Dr. George Nichols testified that in his opinion, Jill was struck in the genital area shortly before she received a gunshot to the head, causing the blunt force trauma. Dr. Nichols was the Kentucky Medical Examiner for many years. He certainly has the credentials to give his opinion in this situation. Don’t you think? You’re the one trying to twist evidence of non-specific injuries into conclusive evidence of molestation. Camm may be a sexual predator and murderer, but it certainly is not a proven fact.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7380 Feb 14, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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Dr. George Nichols testified that in his opinion, Jill was struck in the genital area shortly before she received a gunshot to the head, causing the blunt force trauma. Dr. Nichols was the Kentucky Medical Examiner for many years. He certainly has the credentials to give his opinion in this situation. Don’t you think? You’re the one trying to twist evidence of non-specific injuries into conclusive evidence of molestation. Camm may be a sexual predator and murderer, but it certainly is not a proven fact.
What is shortly before? You do know the body doesn't bruise after the heart stops right? So think real hard dummy.
Just the Facts

Lexington, KY

#7381 Feb 14, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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What is shortly before? You do know the body doesn't bruise after the heart stops right? So think real hard dummy.
I'm not a doctor so I can't say, but Dr. Nichols was clear that in his opinion Jill was injuried shortly before she was shot. Is he correct? I don't know, but I have to give his opinion consideration.

Since: Jan 13

Jeffersonville, IN

#7382 Feb 14, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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I'm not a doctor so I can't say, but Dr. Nichols was clear that in his opinion Jill was injuried shortly before she was shot. Is he correct? I don't know, but I have to give his opinion consideration.
Corey and Dr. Betty Spivak, a forensic pediatrician, would not say evidence that Jill Camm was sexually abused was conclusive.

Spivak — whose career as a pediatric intensive care physician has led to her being one of only a 100 specialists in child abuse nationwide — said what caused injuries to Jill’s “private parts” was unclear.

“I can’t tell you how that happened or what it was (that caused it), but that it was painful,” Spivak said.“It would have caused the child to complain and seek treatment.”

Dr. George Nichols, former chief medical examiner of Kentucky, said he believed the injuries to Jill happened during the attacks.

The blunt trauma to her genitalia, he said, could have been caused by a knee, fist, bottle or any number of other items. Under cross-examination, he admitted the injuries could also be consistent with sexual molestation but said “it’s a very low possibility of that.”

“I think she was struck there on or about the same time she had a handgun fired at her head,” Nichols said.

He said a lack of white blood cells around the injury indicates it happened within 24 hours, or “significantly less” time than that. After 24 hours, the cells show up to begin the healing process.

http://newsandtribune.com/davidcamm/x51 ... ings/print

There is no evidence that David Camm molested his daughter.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7383 Feb 15, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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I'm not a doctor so I can't say, but Dr. Nichols was clear that in his opinion Jill was injuried shortly before she was shot. Is he correct? I don't know, but I have to give his opinion consideration.
You don't need to be a doctor to know a body doesn't bruise after the heart stops. I asked you what "shortly before" meant. Is that minutes, hours, days? You are an idiot. That's not overly important, I just like reminding you.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7384 Feb 15, 2013
Julia from Jeff wrote:
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Corey and Dr. Betty Spivak, a forensic pediatrician, would not say evidence that Jill Camm was sexually abused was conclusive.
Spivak — whose career as a pediatric intensive care physician has led to her being one of only a 100 specialists in child abuse nationwide — said what caused injuries to Jill’s “private parts” was unclear.
“I can’t tell you how that happened or what it was (that caused it), but that it was painful,” Spivak said.“It would have caused the child to complain and seek treatment.”
Dr. George Nichols, former chief medical examiner of Kentucky, said he believed the injuries to Jill happened during the attacks.
The blunt trauma to her genitalia, he said, could have been caused by a knee, fist, bottle or any number of other items. Under cross-examination, he admitted the injuries could also be consistent with sexual molestation but said “it’s a very low possibility of that.”
“I think she was struck there on or about the same time she had a handgun fired at her head,” Nichols said.
He said a lack of white blood cells around the injury indicates it happened within 24 hours, or “significantly less” time than that. After 24 hours, the cells show up to begin the healing process.
http://newsandtribune.com/davidcamm/x51 ... ings/print
There is no evidence that David Camm molested his daughter.
So what you are saying is that Boney, in the middle of killing 3 "random" people in broad daylight took the time to hurt her BEFORE killing her.

There is evidence. You people just don't see it because you would rather believe the world operates like the movies.
Just the Facts

United States

#7385 Feb 15, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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You don't need to be a doctor to know a body doesn't bruise after the heart stops. I asked you what "shortly before" meant. Is that minutes, hours, days? You are an idiot. That's not overly important, I just like reminding you.
The testimony was that she received the injuries in question at, or shortly before being shot in the head. Dr. Nichols performed thousands of autopsies in his capacity as Medical Examiner so it’s reasonable to believe that he knows about perimortem bruising. I may be an idiot but this is not my testimony, it’s the testimony of Dr. Nicole’s. Is he an idiot too?

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7386 Feb 15, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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The testimony was that she received the injuries in question at, or shortly before being shot in the head. Dr. Nichols performed thousands of autopsies in his capacity as Medical Examiner so it’s reasonable to believe that he knows about perimortem bruising. I may be an idiot but this is not my testimony, it’s the testimony of Dr. Nicole’s. Is he an idiot too?
I've never met the good doctor so I can't say.

I can tell you what the first ME said. She said that Jill was molested within hours of the murder. Then you said testimony was that a child with those injuries would complain (speculation btw) but still. So, she is molested by Camm hours before the murder. She complains to her mom. Mom calls Davie predator boi out. He has no choice. They all have to die.

I love speculation. It's fun right?
Just the Facts

United States

#7387 Feb 15, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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I've never met the good doctor so I can't say.
I can tell you what the first ME said. She said that Jill was molested within hours of the murder. Then you said testimony was that a child with those injuries would complain (speculation btw) but still. So, she is molested by Camm hours before the murder. She complains to her mom. Mom calls Davie predator boi out. He has no choice. They all have to die.
I love speculation. It's fun right?
The first Medical Examiner, Dr. Tracy Corey did not say that Jill was molested within hours of the murders. If you think she did, provide the testimony.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#7388 Feb 15, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
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The first Medical Examiner, Dr. Tracy Corey did not say that Jill was molested within hours of the murders. If you think she did, provide the testimony.
Lol, typical defense lawyer. Get hung up on the fact that I said "molestation" and not "alleged molestation" or "sustained injuries". Shup stupid, you are trying to free a murdering pedophile on technicalities. I hope you succeed and he comes to live with you and your kids.
camm supporter

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#7389 Feb 15, 2013
Julia from Jeff wrote:
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Corey and Dr. Betty Spivak, a forensic pediatrician, would not say evidence that Jill Camm was sexually abused was conclusive.
Spivak — whose career as a pediatric intensive care physician has led to her being one of only a 100 specialists in child abuse nationwide — said what caused injuries to Jill’s “private parts” was unclear.
“I can’t tell you how that happened or what it was (that caused it), but that it was painful,” Spivak said.“It would have caused the child to complain and seek treatment.”
Dr. George Nichols, former chief medical examiner of Kentucky, said he believed the injuries to Jill happened during the attacks.
The blunt trauma to her genitalia, he said, could have been caused by a knee, fist, bottle or any number of other items. Under cross-examination, he admitted the injuries could also be consistent with sexual molestation but said “it’s a very low possibility of that.”
“I think she was struck there on or about the same time she had a handgun fired at her head,” Nichols said.
He said a lack of white blood cells around the injury indicates it happened within 24 hours, or “significantly less” time than that. After 24 hours, the cells show up to begin the healing process.
http://newsandtribune.com/davidcamm/x51 ... ings/print
There is no evidence that David Camm molested his daughter.
good point...she would have been in great pain and holding herself as she did when she had the rash down there....instead she's playing and having fun at brad's practice
Just the Facts

United States

#7390 Feb 15, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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Lol, typical defense lawyer. Get hung up on the fact that I said "molestation" and not "alleged molestation" or "sustained injuries". Shup stupid, you are trying to free a murdering pedophile on technicalities. I hope you succeed and he comes to live with you and your kids.
Lol, typical blowhard, no matter how much you want there to be, there’s no evidence that Camm molested his daughter. The prosecution witnesses, including Dr. Corey, said they didn’t know how Jill got the injuries. Amazing that all these doctors that examined Jill don’t know, but you do.

Since: Jan 13

Jeffersonville, IN

#7391 Feb 15, 2013
Amazing, that the prosecution was allowed to insinuate this along with many other things to throw guilt toward David, because they didn't have enough "real" evidence. This time it won't be allowed and hopefully the defense will be ready to prove Camm innocent, which they shouldn't have to do, but in this case they are almost forced to. It can be done one step at a time, but the whole story has to be told. Most of it can be disputed and shown, each piece of any made-up, rumor, books, opinion, or trial evidence presented in court, does not point to David as the killer.
Kathy T Not Me

New Albany, IN

#7392 Feb 17, 2013
Please read,sign and forward to others and ask them to do the same. Kathy Travis, what do you think?http://www.change.org/pe titions/state-of-indiana-gover nor-mike-pence-pardon-david-ca mm-special-prosecutor-dismiss- charges-against-david-camm#

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