Justice For David Camm

Justice For David Camm

There are 8246 comments on the Topix story from Dec 11, 2008, titled Justice For David Camm. In it, Topix reports that:

WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR: THE ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE JUSTICE FOR KIM, BRAD & JILL FREEDOM FOR DAVID CAMM THE TRUTH...THE SIMPLE TRUTH On September 28, 2000, Kimberly, Bradley, and Jill Camm were shot to death in the Camm family garage, located in Georgetown, Indiana, just a few miles from Louisville, Kentucky. The Indiana State Police (ISP) responded to the scene, as did the local prosecutor, Stanley Faith, who called for the assistance of a blood stain and crime scene re-constructionist. Three days after the crimes occurred, the husband of Kim and the father of Jill and Brad, David Camm, was arrested. In early 2002 David Camm was convicted of their murders and sentenced to 195 years in the Indiana Department of Corrections. Case solved. Case closed. In August, 2004, the Indiana Court of Appeals overturned Camm's conviction. Camm got a new trial. In November, 2004, Prosecutor Keith Henderson recharged Camm after having a "Fresh Eyes" team re-investigate the crime. Camm was re-charged. In March, 2005, another man, Charles Darnell Boney, was charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Camm was re-charged with Boney. In February, 2006, Boney was convicted and sentenced to 225 years in prison. Camm was convicted in March, 2006, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Case solved. Case closed. Those are the facts of this case. Well, at least a few facts. Most people in the metropolitan area of Louisville are convinced that David Camm is a molester and murderer. They are convinced that Charles Boney helped him in some shape, manner, or form. There are those who know many more facts that are thoroughly convinced of David Camm's innocence and continue to fight for him and his family.

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“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6757 Jan 11, 2013
The Cammanator wrote:
I heard that Charles Boney is related to Lisa Boney who was once married to Lenny kravitz whose mother played Helen on the Jefferson's married to Tom the white guy which was a spinoff from All in the family with Archie and meathead who was created by norman Lear who ownes a 200 acre farm in Booneville. My what a small world
I am confused. What does this have to do with Kevin Bacon?

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6758 Jan 11, 2013
fly007 wrote:
<quoted text>If you're going to quote someone you should do it correctly. You're right - Springer is too weird. Did I ask you to discuss the case. All I said, is that you don't.
I do sometimes, but it's like religion. People believe what they believe and nothing I say is going to magically change that and I don't care to make that effort.

I come here for one reason. To make sure there is one voice of reason in here. I come here to remind people that Jill, Brad and Kim were murdered in cold blood by the man that was expected to love and protect them. The man that was supposed to walk Jill down the aisle. The man that was supposed to give the birds and bees talk to Brad. The man that swore to God to love, honor and respect Kim.

That is my belief, and nothing anyone else says will magically change it either. I understand that my methods aren't exactly politically correct, but that's not really my strong suit and I don't intend to change that.

I actually have a lot of fun with Mrs. Beasley. We call each other names and whatever, but we have developed a mutual respect (at least I think it's mutual lol). Some people who just make excuses will not get my respect because they don't care about the facts, they have an emotional investment and only care about David, nothing else, including the REAL victims in this case.

The state did not conspire to convict a former state trooper. It's not good publicity when a cop, former or current, commits any crime, especially something like this.

There, you happy now?

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6759 Jan 11, 2013
fly007 wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say that you said the ballplayers lied. It's just that by Owen showing how confused about the timing of the games they all were, he was able to show David could have left. A juror said that to the media, so it must have played an important roll. If he didn't leave, of course, he couldn't have done it. Owen wanted them to think that was so important, when the only really important thing was that they saw him there. But what stood out was all of Owens prancing around to relive his own days as a ballplayer. It's just like the blood experts. The state experts were so much more out there than the defense, and that's what people see as more memorable, and possibly more believable. A very strong presense can sometimes be very impressive, even though you have smart jurors, which I have no doubt, all of them were, or they wouldn't have been chosen.
Not one basketball player said "he never left". They all said they didn't see him leave, but that's no the same thing. he spoke to one person while he was sitting out, but he didn't sit there talking to them the whole time as some on here would want you to believe. he SPOKE to him. That only says that there was a period of time when Camm was not on the court.

I know plenty of people that have been assigned jury duty. To assume they are all smart is naive and well, dumb. I am not on Camm's side, but I am not going to sit here and say things like that. That's what CammJocksupporter does.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6760 Jan 11, 2013
Mrs Beasley wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're not only an expert on prosecutorial psychology you are also claiming to be an expert on jury selection. In which you have stated you have no doubt all the jurors were very smart, of course in your opinion or they would of not been selected. See Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman.
In my opinion both juries were about as intelligent as you.
When a juror makes a statement after convicting a person that he had DOUBT that Camm was guilty that in itself tells you how smart they really were.
Two words: Casey Anthony
When a state forensic lab tech.(Lynn Scamahorn) who performed the DNA test on the sweatshirt testifies that the prosecutor (Stanley Faith) prosecuting the trial threatened her to lie and say that David Camm's DNA was also on that shirt when it conclusively showed it wasn't that in my opinion is not the smartest jury in the box.
it technically was the smartest jury in the box, right?
But you're the self-proclaimed expert. Yes you may feel Camm is innocent but not for the same reasons I do. We are watching the same movie but seeing a different picture. Do me a favor and stop reply to my post.
I don't think he/she knows what they believe.
You might be an expert but you're no Satan.
There can be only one! Call me

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6761 Jan 11, 2013
The Cammanator wrote:
<quoted text>
The name calling sparks interest in the case. Humor to a bad situation. And most of all hitting a Camm supporter or Camm hater in the nuts feels O so gooooood.
You would have a much better chance at getting congress together then supporters and haters.
The fiscal cliff was avoided sooooooo
Who can we bombard with e-mails, phone calls and letters. Why not fly 007 he seems to know everything maybe he can get something done. He has specials powers that allow him into the minds of others. He knows your opinion before you have an opinion.
That's why they call him 007, duh
He's so smart he taught Chuck Norris how to spell Dumb chucks
Yippy ki A
He is so smart his IQ test came back negative.
Bob C

Burlington, WI

#6762 Jan 11, 2013
Translated Comments of Martin Niemoller:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

David Camm has been in jail for 13 years for a crime that it has not been convicted of (without the verdict being over turned.) Most commenters seem to think this is a big joke, and an excuse to bash any one who has a different opinion. I have been called illiterate for wanting him out on bond. Where is people's outrage? Why don't people want to storm the Floyd County's Prosecutorial office for tis abomination.
FREE DAVID CAMM NOW!!!

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6763 Jan 11, 2013
Bob C wrote:
Translated Comments of Martin Niemoller:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
David Camm has been in jail for 13 years for a crime that it has not been convicted of (without the verdict being over turned.) Most commenters seem to think this is a big joke, and an excuse to bash any one who has a different opinion. I have been called illiterate for wanting him out on bond. Where is people's outrage? Why don't people want to storm the Floyd County's Prosecutorial office for tis abomination.
FREE DAVID CAMM NOW!!!
Because you think he is innocent doesn't mean he is and doesn't mean he should be set free. The verdicts were overturned on technicalities, not evidence or a lack thereof. People watch 48 Hours and think they have all the answers. That to me, is hilarious.
Bob C

Burlington, WI

#6764 Jan 11, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you think he is innocent doesn't mean he is and doesn't mean he should be set free. The verdicts were overturned on technicalities, not evidence or a lack thereof. People watch 48 Hours and think they have all the answers. That to me, is hilarious.
I have no opinion on David Camm's innocence or guilt in the matter of his family's murders.
But, until he is convicted (and the verdict is not over turned) He should be free.
13 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH!!!

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#6765 Jan 11, 2013
Bob C wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no opinion on David Camm's innocence or guilt in the matter of his family's murders.
But, until he is convicted (and the verdict is not over turned) He should be free.
13 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH!!!
He is a flight risk.

If he gets out someone might toss him off a cliff.
camm supporter

Orlando, FL

#6767 Jan 11, 2013
fly007 wrote:
<quoted text> Do you know if some justice group is working to free Boney.
i dont know of any...however, if camm came out after losing a trial and lost his appeals camm could try to get boney out and say that camm did it on his own or that boney's story was true etc

i'm not saying i believe a word of boney's 25 bs stories...i'm just saying if boney's lawyer thinks he is really innocent he should always hold out hope and he should always say that camm is the one that belongs in jail forever

unfortunately the system is so sick, renn cant say what boney told him i guess even though boney's case is basically over forever; so add patrick renn to the waterboard list
camm supporter

Orlando, FL

#6768 Jan 11, 2013
fly007 wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say that you said the ballplayers lied. It's just that by Owen showing how confused about the timing of the games they all were, he was able to show David could have left. A juror said that to the media, so it must have played an important roll. If he didn't leave, of course, he couldn't have done it. Owen wanted them to think that was so important, when the only really important thing was that they saw him there. But what stood out was all of Owens prancing around to relive his own days as a ballplayer. It's just like the blood experts. The state experts were so much more out there than the defense, and that's what people see as more memorable, and possibly more believable. A very strong presense can sometimes be very impressive, even though you have smart jurors, which I have no doubt, all of them were, or they wouldn't have been chosen.
another of the basically sinister tactics of the prosecution apparently was to show the bball players did not remember anything because they did not remember things like the scores of the games on the stand 5 years after the games...ridiculous...anyone who plays pick up bball knows that the players frequently dont know the score of the game WHILE THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED! many games are interrupted midway thru to argue over what the score is...so to pick on their memories 5 years later is a complete joke

usually the guy waiting gets to come into the next game; someone from the losing team then gets kicked off; if there is only one person waiting that then one person gets kicked off the losing team...people like to stay on to get their excersise in and go home...so if you see noone waiting, you know you will stay on whether you win or lose....

bottom line is that a pick up game can take 5 minutes to be over...it can take 15 minutes...there was no way for camm to know if he could leave without being noticed, if they would be done with the game and notice he was gone, or if they would notice him coming back

and of course, if his plan to kill boney at the crime scene had gone all wrong wouldnt he have been distracted coming up with plan "b" while he was playing?...instead he acted totally carefree
The Cammanator

Harrisburg, PA

#6769 Jan 11, 2013
When you only have 12 to 13 people playing basketball who all know each other you know when someone goes missing for at least 15 minutes and if they return with blood on the front of their shirt someone would of noticed it.

Camm was a piss poor husband to his wife, I'm not saying he was abusive or treated them bad but his infidelities and constant womenizing cost him more then anyone could imagine. This is why a lot of people don't like him and I can't blame them for that. The evidence clearly shows he was a womenizer but it also shows this man did not kill his family. Remember statistics show that 40 to 50% of marriages have unfaithful spouses. No it's not right but for whatever reason almost all of these cheaters are cheating with someone less desireable then their spouse and still claim to love them. The man should be free he paided enough for his womenizing.
Mrs Beasley

Harrisburg, PA

#6770 Jan 11, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
<quoted text>
I do sometimes, but it's like religion. People believe what they believe and nothing I say is going to magically change that and I don't care to make that effort.
I come here for one reason. To make sure there is one voice of reason in here. I come here to remind people that Jill, Brad and Kim were murdered in cold blood by the man that was expected to love and protect them. The man that was supposed to walk Jill down the aisle. The man that was supposed to give the birds and bees talk to Brad. The man that swore to God to love, honor and respect Kim.
That is my belief, and nothing anyone else says will magically change it either. I understand that my methods aren't exactly politically correct, but that's not really my strong suit and I don't intend to change that.
I actually have a lot of fun with Mrs. Beasley. We call each other names and whatever, but we have developed a mutual respect (at least I think it's mutual lol). Some people who just make excuses will not get my respect because they don't care about the facts, they have an emotional investment and only care about David, nothing else, including the REAL victims in this case.
The state did not conspire to convict a former state trooper. It's not good publicity when a cop, former or current, commits any crime, especially something like this.
There, you happy now?
You had me at sunshine!
Harold

Harrisburg, PA

#6771 Jan 11, 2013
There's no question that Boney wore the sweatshirt to the Camm residents and was there but I'm wondering if he was the one who shot the family why wasn't there any blood spatter all over the sweatshirt? Did he enter the home remove the shirt and then do the killings and if so why would he then throw it in the bronco?
weekend is here

Newport, KY

#6772 Jan 11, 2013
fly007 wrote:
<quoted text>they sure didn't spare any expense to have Englert testify ($300 an hour). What's another few hundred in a million dollar case. She's the one who said Boney went to help a buddy, said his knees were scuffed to verify he tripped over the shoes, and said the gun had something round on it. She's a very important witness.
That is Mr. Englert's standard pay. Mattingly didn't even testify the same thing at the two trials. If she knew he tripped over a shoe she wold of had to have been there. Well, if Camm is going to get all these millions, spend the money for the experts. Sure wouldn't want to "pick" on poor Camm. I hope the state calls Mattingly back-she is lying and she knows it. WHY did she stay with them after that?
weekend is here

Newport, KY

#6773 Jan 11, 2013
Bob C wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no opinion on David Camm's innocence or guilt in the matter of his family's murders.
But, until he is convicted (and the verdict is not over turned) He should be free.
13 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH!!!
beg to differ-he would be a flight risk. He has access to money and SAM would do anything to get him off-he is right where he needs to be.
guess who is on here

United States

#6774 Jan 12, 2013
Oe of the posters on here is Barbara Boney and Stan Fatass is also on here.
guess who is on here

United States

#6775 Jan 12, 2013
should have been one of the posters
give me a beak

Newport, KY

#6777 Jan 12, 2013
Bob C wrote:
<quoted text>
I contributed money to the defense fund for Clarence.
The Clarence Elkins case was completely different than the David Camm case. Clarence was convicted on the testimony of a (then) 6 year old girl and was in prison. His conviction was being appealed. The bulk of the work which led to Clarence's freedom was done by his wife Melissa, his female lawyer and the Ohio innocence project. Aroumd the time of the conviction I was living in Ohio and was familiar with the Akron area. In the David Camm case I have contacted the Innocence project. They are only interetsed in cases where there is a conviction (not over turned), which can be over come by DNA evidence, which is not the case here.
While in Barberton, OH for a commemorative service for Clarence's Mother-in-law I was interviewed for Television. The interviewer said that since I drove down from WI, for the service, what were people from OH doing to help Clarence. I sort of doubt my TV interview had anything to do with the eventual over turning of the Guilty verdict. I made suggestions to Clarence's supporters about Civil disobedience to draw attention to Clarence's case, stating that I was willing to go to jail to hekp get Clarence out of jail. My suggestion went nowhere.
The Innonence Project and Barry Scheck THINK Camm is guilty. Hello?????
give me a beak

Newport, KY

#6778 Jan 12, 2013
guess who is on here wrote:
Oe of the posters on here is Barbara Boney and Stan Fatass is also on here.
I would think Mrs. Boney and Mr. Faith have jobs and better things to do than a Topix column. And don't start that same old crap about their love affair. Mrs. boney is a good woman, and she is in the political world. Very well connected, but she works on the casino boat as the Head of Security.

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