Blaming Israel for carnage

Blaming Israel for carnage

There are 121926 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Jul 22, 2006, titled Blaming Israel for carnage. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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Peter Borough

Warrington, UK

#110945 Oct 20, 2013
Jim Justice wrote:
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Poor Pete,.
Poor Ratty, but yeah, imitation noted ....

It's always been poor Ratty and always will be. The reluctant Jew ... spurned by mankind and sent adrift out of scores of nations. Why? That is the question verminous one: WHY? Why DO people despise you?
Answers on a postcard.

Poor Ratty!

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#110947 Oct 20, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Britain France and the US all evil Jew supplicants installed the Criminal Brotherhood in power , Egyptians had them successfully penned up.
But they were needed to pursue Jew interests in the Middle East.
In particular to overthrow the humanist regime in Libya.
So the despots and Poofters could settle old scores under the guise of a liberal democracy crusade.
Thankfully the interim Government of Egypt has arrested the Brotherhood Soothsayers , but some of their criminal allies still roam free.
If the Copts want a future in their Country of heritage they can't achieve that by leaving for the States.
The first thing they should do is declare their opposition to the harbinger of evil , Allah's enemy Jew swine.
Only that way will the Copts gain the respect of the Muslims.
Allah's enemy is Islam as shown by the warring factions and ancient tribal hatreds which keep Muslims in the dark ages. Attacks on Shi'ite Muslims killed at least 59 people across Iraq on Thursday, including a suicide truck bomb. Sunnis are slaughtering and gassing Shiites in Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Libya, and Afghanistan. In Kuwait some 2,000 Shiite residents will be deported. It is expected that all six of the Sunni nations will follow suit. Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy organization. Iran is a Shiite nation.

Allah's misgivings about Islam are evident.Massive violence between Muslims and Hindus in India following partition and three India-Pakistan wars, terrorism in Kashmir and India resulting in several million killed and at least fifteen million people displaced.Pakistan-Bangladesh conflict, 1971 (following civil war and secession). This war saw the highest number of casualties in any of the India-Pakistan conflicts. It is believed that from one to three million Bangladeshis were killed as a result of this war.
Allah sees the ongoing Yemeni and Somali Civil Wars where thousands have been killed. Allah knows about Jordan's crackdown on "Black September," 1970. PLO crushed by Jordanian Legion under command of King Hussein (at least 25,000 killed). There is the destruction of the city of Hama and the Al-Qaeda and Taliban violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The ongoing inter-Palestinian factionalism in Gaza and the constant Muslim betrayal of other Muslims.Allah knows about the violence between Muslims and the Algerian government estimated to have cost between 150,000 and 200,000 lives. Allah disapproves of the Sixteen-year-long civil war in Lebanon resulting in an estimated 130,000 to 250,000 civilian fatalities. Another one million people (one-third of the population) were wounded, half of whom were left with lifetime disabilities.More Muslims killing, gassing and disabling other Muslims. Allah knows about the Iraqi, Iranian, and Turkish suppression of Kurdish autonomy; approximately 180,000 Kurds killed, mostly civilians in Iraq, by Saddam Hussein's forces via poison gas attacks. Allah will punish the Muslim terror against civilians in Chechnya, and additional hundreds killed in Moscow and other Russian cities including children at primary school. Russia's two biggest terrorist attacks both came from Muslim groups. The Chechnyan separatist "Special Purpose Islamic Regiment" took an estimated 850 people hostage in Moscow in October 2002 at a theater. At least 129 hostages died during the rescue, all but one killed by the chemicals used to subdue the attackers.

In the September 2004, 1,200 schoolchildren and adults were taken hostage at a secondary school in Beslan, North Ossetia-Alania, which was overrun by an Islamic terror group. About 500 people, including 186 children, died Muslims killed by other Muslims in the name of Islam and "jihad."
nutjobs here

Israel

#110950 Oct 20, 2013
orion wrote:
<quoted text>Nutjobs, this is a serious question..
Israel's declining sperm quality tied to depleted uranium exposure by Tim King, April 15, 2010 - Salem-News.com
Tel aviv/salem- Israel's population is facing a dire threat: a drastic depopulation, from the use of weapons that leave behind DU. DU leads to the word "Omnicidal", as DU kills everything in the food chain, everywhere the wind blows. Experts say that the dramatic drop in Israel's sperm count could eliminate their ability to reproduce.
REsearch by an Israeli doctor shows a significant drop in sperm count lever and sperm mobility among young Israeli soldiers in recent years. Sperm mobility is the ability of sperm to move properly toward an egg.
It is attributed to the inhalation of DU aerosolized nano particles; the direct result of extra powerful weapons used by Israel and the US.
All that military might might as it turns out, could set the stage for a massive Israeli act of population suicide.
A study by Dr.Ronit Haimov-Kokhman released in November, showed a 40% decline in the concentration of sperm cells iln Israeli sperm donors fom 2004 to 2008, compared to samples taken between 1995 and 1999.
source: http://www.countercurrents.org/king150410.htm
etc, etc.
One question is : the Hasidim birth rate seems as bad as ever. Is the reason for this that they do not do military service and therefore are not in contact with DU ammo?
You mention earlier that the growth of Israeli Arabs has considerably slowed down, which if the above is correct would make sense. What is your input on that?
sorry if i am aggressive sometimes I find too often those who attack Israel have no factual basis for their opinions and are also unable to give a viable opinion based on logic.

If someone has been following my posts they would have already realized that I agree to things which don't suit my agenda of defending Israel if it is the truth. I even admit to things which most Zionist Jews may be in denial about because accepting it can change their whole outlook on the situation and challenge their beliefs. I have changed by beliefs over time due to this and it has been hard at some points.

I may be naive but I really do believe that IDF doesn't intentionally target civilians which includes using WMD's. I don't believe I know everything as even in Israel on a regular basis friends and acquaintances tell me that what I am saying is not exactly true but they can't reveal classified info to prove it to me. I live in a country where anyone with a decent post in the army will know things which are often not public.

The Hareidi BR is static based on their beliefs. Israelis are having more children is probably a cultural thing. Still not able to pinpoint why the secular BR unlike any other society has risen.

Israeli Arabs when their standard of living improves seem to have less kids. You can see this with the Israeli Arabs and Palestinians over the decades. It could also be the fact that the Israeli Government has reduced child support drastically.

You may have a point but I have never seen any evidence to point in this direction.

Not sure your beliefs on other subject but it could be the GMO products and all the poisons, chemicals, hormones around us everywhere we look. Could be milk, Cellphones, Water etc. Haven't most countries fertility rates gone down lately?

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Sydney, Australia

#110952 Oct 21, 2013
Jews lie so much there can only no one explanation for it.
They try to be indescribably evil , so as to evade detection by description.
However its down black and white written in the characters of life , in a language that is beyond incomprehension.
That is,! "The decimation of life".
And is it any wonder none of the Prophets that they(Jew) ever recognized , gave an elucidation of Heaven, as an opportunity for an afterlife.
Allah didn't trust them with it even when they were the Chosen.
Jews have no Heaven in the Torah.
Allah knew they would turn out to be evil ,
Or so it appears or he would have introduced them to the ultimate reward of Paradise.
But He didn't because , I guess He viewed the problem was destined to be evil
(Jew) forcing good (Salafi Muslims) to rise up to strike evil down.


Woody

Duncanville, TX

#110953 Oct 21, 2013
The real axis of EVIL.........Jewmerica, Shitsreal and Saudi Arabia........

.........go Persia go........go Russia go.........

A senior Iranian commander said Tehran and Moscow have decided to exchange expertise and know-how in the field of air defense systems.

Commander of Khatam al-Anbiya Air Defense Base Brigadier General Farzad Esmaili said Iran and Russia have decided to provide each other with the modern technologies in developing air defense systems.

His remarks came after a Sunday meeting with Commander of the Russian Federation Air Force Major General Viktor Bondarev in Tehran.

Brigadier General Esmaili also pointed to the main topics of discussion in his morning meeting with the Russian commander, and said,“Other topics in the meeting revolved around aerial technical issues, air defense, eavesdropping systems, radar systems and missile systems.”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#110954 Oct 21, 2013
rtloder wrote:
Jews lie so much there can only no one explanation for it.
They try to be indescribably evil , so as to evade detection by description.
However its down black and white written in the characters of life , in a language that is beyond incomprehension.
That is,! "The decimation of life".
And is it any wonder none of the Prophets that they(Jew) ever recognized , gave an elucidation of Heaven, as an opportunity for an afterlife.
Allah didn't trust them with it even when they were the Chosen.
Jews have no Heaven in the Torah.
Allah knew they would turn out to be evil ,
Or so it appears or he would have introduced them to the ultimate reward of Paradise.
But He didn't because , I guess He viewed the problem was destined to be evil
(Jew) forcing good (Salafi Muslims) to rise up to strike evil down.
But Salafi Muslims are joining the battle, at the will of Allah, and Muslims are killing Muslims and Muslims and suppressing each others expression and right to exist. Your battle beyond "incomprehension" and the reward of Paradise does not account for the gassing of innocents and rape of thousands of women in Syria by other Muslims. There is evil in Tunisia and bloodshed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It does not account for the cruelty of Saddam Hussein or the death of children at the hands of yesterday's Islamic suicide bombers in Iraq. While you embrace an elucidation of heaven, millions of Islamic refugees seek shelter from the brutality of other Muslims. So awaken from your slumber because and put away your deep seeded hatred, because the enemy of Allah is within you.
Gaza

Paducah, KY

#110955 Oct 21, 2013
The ciritical situation in Gaza, Israel's concentration camp for 1.6 million Palestinians:

http://www.theatlanticpost.com/economy/water-...
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#110957 Oct 21, 2013
sh/be @acm=2341_888
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#110958 Oct 21, 2013
Woody wrote:
The real axis of EVIL.........Jewmerica, Shitsreal and Saudi Arabia........
.........go Persia go........go Russia go.........
A senior Iranian commander said Tehran and Moscow have decided to exchange expertise and know-how in the field of air defense systems.
Commander of Khatam al-Anbiya Air Defense Base Brigadier General Farzad Esmaili said Iran and Russia have decided to provide each other with the modern technologies in developing air defense systems.
His remarks came after a Sunday meeting with Commander of the Russian Federation Air Force Major General Viktor Bondarev in Tehran.
Brigadier General Esmaili also pointed to the main topics of discussion in his morning meeting with the Russian commander, and said,“Other topics in the meeting revolved around aerial technical issues, air defense, eavesdropping systems, radar systems and missile systems.”
Interesting development.
see also
http://ericmargolis.com/2013/10/carrots-or-st...
Gaza

Paducah, KY

#110959 Oct 21, 2013
“My biggest struggle is to rehumanize the Palestinians. There’s a whole machinery of brainwashing in Israel which really accompanies each of us from early childhood, and I’m a product of this machinery as much as anyone else.[We are taught] a few narratives that it’s very hard to break. That we Israelis are the ultimate and only victims. That the Palestinians are born to kill, and their hatred is irrational. That the Palestinians are not human beings like us… So you get a society without any moral doubts, without any questions marks, with hardly public debate. To raise your voice against all this is very hard.”

--Gideon Levy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middl...

The same thing that Levy is talking about in Israel is happening in the USA as well.
nutjobs here

Israel

#110960 Oct 21, 2013
Peter Borough wrote:
<quoted text>
How about the 'evidence' that Israel holds the worlds largest open prison and is a trampler of human rights, murders women and children with impunity, a destroyer of human dignity and should be dismantled asap: is a terrorist state creating, aiding and abetting chaos throughout the region?
How all the 'evidence' that points to these truths.
This post above is the perfect example of someone who has no idea what they are talking about and has been on the internet too much reading crap.

Israels border is not the only one with Gaza.

The UN Palmer report supported Israels rights to these actions.

Israel has continuously supplied all sorts of basic necessities to Gaza including free water, and power. Even when Israel is under missile attack they take a break from battle to allow supplies into Gaza. Can you name any other country in the world which would do this with an org (Hamas), WHOSE OWN CHARTER CALLS TO KILL JEWS. Not only Israelis but Jews.

If Israel wanted to wipe out the Palestinians it could do in within hours. If no missiles flew into Israel on a regular basis and Hamas didn't carry out attacks across the border than Israel would have no need to go back in Gaza; a place Israel kicked out nearly 10,000 Israeli to leave.

Interesting how you support a people where not one part of their society is peaceful. EVERY PART OF PALESTINIANS SOCIETY INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE AGAINST ISRAEL JEWS AND OFTEN CHRISTIANS.

Another person speaking of supposed evidence to back up a ridiculous post which sounds articulate but has no content or reality in it.

If you can give any evidence of Palestinian moderation go ahead.
If you can give any evidence of anything you have claimed go ahead.
nutjobs here

Israel

#110961 Oct 21, 2013
Gaza wrote:
“My biggest struggle is to rehumanize the Palestinians. There’s a whole machinery of brainwashing in Israel which really accompanies each of us from early childhood, and I’m a product of this machinery as much as anyone else.[We are taught] a few narratives that it’s very hard to break. That we Israelis are the ultimate and only victims. That the Palestinians are born to kill, and their hatred is irrational. That the Palestinians are not human beings like us… So you get a society without any moral doubts, without any questions marks, with hardly public debate. To raise your voice against all this is very hard.”
--Gideon Levy
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middl...
The same thing that Levy is talking about in Israel is happening in the USA as well.
Gideon Levy is a left wing extremists who supports Extremist Palestinians over his own people. He constantly lies and he is more read in english than Hebrew. a large majority of Israelis don't only disagree with him but see him as a traitor who speaks BS.

The following links have various examples of his lies.
http://www.camera.org/index.asp...
http://www.nrg.co.il/app/index.php...
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/haaretz-gideon...

The fact is that there is not one part of Palestinians society which calls for peace in Arabic.
There is not one Palestinians leader who doesn't call to attack Israeli civilians and incite hatred.
There is not one thing the Western fund have done from the Palestinians when it comes to promoting peace. On the contrary EU support goes towards incitement and terrorist glorification.
The fact is the PLO Charter 1964 calls for no Palestinian state.
The fact is the all Palestinian documentation-charters call for Israels destruction and killing civilians.

The reason the new generation of Israeli Jews is more hostile is because the Palestinians society is so evil that they woke up.

If you can give any evidence to the contrary go ahead.
You can always go to Palestinian Media Watch and see the daily hatred on tv.

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Wollongong, Australia

#110962 Oct 21, 2013
waleed sadat wrote:
<quoted text>
But Salafi Muslims are joining the battle, at the will of Allah, and Muslims are killing Muslims and Muslims and suppressing each others expression and right to exist. Your battle beyond "incomprehension" and the reward of Paradise does not account for the gassing of innocents and rape of thousands of women in Syria by other Muslims. There is evil in Tunisia and bloodshed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It does not account for the cruelty of Saddam Hussein or the death of children at the hands of yesterday's Islamic suicide bombers in Iraq. While you embrace an elucidation of heaven, millions of Islamic refugees seek shelter from the brutality of other Muslims. So awaken from your slumber because and put away your deep seeded hatred, because the enemy of Allah is within you.

Saddam Hussein was a secularist, who did good work in the 70, ies. but got sucked in to being a dictator.
Couldn't live being what people expected of him without elevating his personal expectation to incorporate perfection, which doesn't exist.
Some Imams preach jihad in Syria, but they are going against what ibn Taymiyya decreed.
Only with the blessing of the Imam can jihad be seen as a religious duty, a tribal Sheikh is not THE Imam , no matter where you live in a Nation there is only one Principal Salafi Cleric that only can issue that injunction.
These Jihadists haven't got a valid Sanction.
No Principal Cleric of any Islamic Nation has issued any such Declaration.
That's true what you say the enemy is within .
God is the Devil as well, He consumed the bastard , it was the only way to get rid of him , and we are the image of God.

Woody

Duncanville, TX

#110964 Oct 22, 2013
Thayne s World of Truth

Selden, NY

#110966 Oct 22, 2013
Woody wrote:
Brudder Nathanael......

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rjqJ3cDzReAXX
L&P

We at Mt.Sinai are living in a time of great pangs and distress that are directly due to a Cult of Zion Evil Doers and their co-rats, like McCain.

Even as we post Brother Kappers Truths, some evil anti-gentile from Topix filtration center will biasely discrimunate against our postings and delete our Godly Truths.

Great post Woody....
Thayne s World of Truth

Selden, NY

#110967 Oct 22, 2013
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L&P

Godly Truths are for those who are rightious in their hearts and in their spirir and in their deeds.

We all fall short but the bases of real Truths in this life lies in/with God's Light and Ways.

..... and it surely does not lie in a bunch of pagan convert, who claim they are God's chosen critters.

These insidious creatures who claim they are God's chosen are nothing more than a bunch of pernicious untermenshen, from the darkside of life that reside in Satan's realm.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#110968 Oct 22, 2013
Thayne s World of Truth wrote:
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L&P
Godly Truths are for those who are rightious in their hearts and in their spirir and in their deeds.
are God's chosen are nothing more than a bunch of pernicious untermenshen, from the darkside of life that reside in Satan's realm.
Do you handle snakes at your church, preaching fool?
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#110969 Oct 22, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Gideon Levy is a left wing extremists who supports Extremist Palestinians over his own people. He constantly lies and he is more read in english than Hebrew. a large majority of Israelis don't only disagree with him but see him as a traitor who speaks BS.
The following links have various examples of his lies.
http://www.camera.org/index.asp...
http://www.nrg.co.il/app/index.php...
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/haaretz-gideon...
The fact is that there is not one part of Palestinians society which calls for peace in Arabic.
There is not one Palestinians leader who doesn't call to attack Israeli civilians and incite hatred.
There is not one thing the Western fund have done from the Palestinians when it comes to promoting peace. On the contrary EU support goes towards incitement and terrorist glorification.
The fact is the PLO Charter 1964 calls for no Palestinian state.
The fact is the all Palestinian documentation-charters call for Israels destruction and killing civilians.
The reason the new generation of Israeli Jews is more hostile is because the Palestinians society is so evil that they woke up.
If you can give any evidence to the contrary go ahead.
You can always go to Palestinian Media Watch and see the daily hatred on tv.
Nutjob, I rather like you. You are trying valiantly to prove your point and I respect that. The problem is that Israel position is indefensible. It is no use farting against thunder, everybody today in the world knows that your forefathers grabbed the land from its inhabitants. I quoted Moshe Dayan, Ben Gurion on the other forum who made no bone about this fact. If your leaders say so, it must be the truth, unless they are liars of course. So I will repeat here Moshe Dayan quote;
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the name of these Arab villages (which have been there for milliniums),and I do not blame you because geography no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al Shuman. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DID NOT HAVE A FORMER ARAB POPULATION." I rest my case on that.
You attack Gideon Levy as a left wing extremist, next thing he will be called a terrorist. On the other end of the spectrum we have your PM Nathan Yahoo whose psychatrist committed suicide leaving a note that he could not take that man anymore. You are run by a nutcase, full stop. And that nutcase will be your downfall.
Meantime, you are stealing more land , building more settlements, hoping to create more realities on the ground. Maybe sometimes you should put yourself in the other fellow's boots and see how he feels. Then you will understand why he hates you. It is no use harping how the Nutzis use to treat you, YOU ARE THE NUTZIS. With the Havaara agreement, Hitler facilitated immigration to Palestine in the thirties, knowing full well that you would make a mess of it and that you would have to wallow in this mess. One must remember Napoleon's saying: "God is on the side of the big battalions". You have the best battalions, but the Arabs have the big battalions. And the big battalions always win at the end. Maybe it is still time to negotiate before it is too late. Kick the settlers into Israel proper, get out of the Golan, accept a Palestinian in Gaza, West Bank and East Jerusalem and maybe, just maybe there will be a possibility of peace. Alternatively give us the racist concept of a Jewish state and let the big powers re-create the old Palestine for Muslims, Christians and Jews. Who knows you might find peace, but the way you are going, you are aiming for destruction.
Historian

Paducah, KY

#110970 Oct 22, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Gideon Levy is a left wing extremists who supports Extremist Palestinians over his own people. He constantly lies and he is more read in english than Hebrew. a large majority of Israelis don't only disagree with him but see him as a traitor who speaks BS.
Good patriotic Germans said the same kind of thing about Rev. Martin Niemoller in the 1930s.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#110971 Oct 22, 2013
Woody wrote:
Brudder Nathanael......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rjqJ3cDzReAXX
Wow!!

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