John White-Daniel Ciccero story to appear on 20/20 -- Televisio...

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The network television news program 20/20 will air a segment Friday on the racially-charged events that led to the 2006 shooting death of Daniel Cicciaro.
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Melissa

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I just watched this story on a Sunday afternoon - obviously a repeat on 20/20 I.D. Discovery Channel. But I was disgusted to find that most Caucasians STILL are either unable or unwilling to try and put themselves in the shoes of black Americans.

"John White should have just called the police." Really? REALLY, America? Are we this insensitive and blind to our RECENT history? I am not trying to be offensive, but all you white people out there, do you know what your Great-Grandparents were doing when they were alive. I do. They lived in a nearby city and had a farm and I have a photo of the two of them, smiling and enjoying their large family and Christian faith.

What were John White's Great-Grandparents doing? Let's see here. Would I be lying if I guessed they were busy avoiding the police at all costs in the State of Alabama where they were from? Were they living in abject, dirt-floored poverty? Were they viewed as unworthy of schooling, voting? Were they viewed as ignorant sub-human near animals born to be slaves because of the Curse of Noah's son Ham? Were they despised for being recently freed by the evil "War of Aggression" from the North" and put in their place via lynchings, the men required to step off the street when a white man passed?

Moving forward in time, what were John White's grandparents doing? I know what mine were doing. They were busy building a beautiful home with a Grand Piano in the living room and pretty much whatever they pleased. My Grandfather was a Police Officer. A white Police Officer who worked the "difficult" part of town,(i.e. "black" part of town) but he put those N-ers in their place along with the rest of his Irish Cop friends.

Would I be stretching the truth too far if I took a guess at what Mr. White's grandparents were experiencing? How about STILL having to step off the sidewalk when a white man approached. How about being arrested just for hanging out and talking with a friend: "Loitering" as the cops put it, was not allowed for blacks. How about STILL avoiding the police at all costs, knowing now that 95% of them were part of a terrorist agency formed to keep "uppity blacks" in their God-given sub-human place? Do you think I am exaggerating? Is this what your grandparents were doing? Around the Christmas Tree were the stories you heard about your Grandfather having to remove his hat and say, "Yessir," to ANY white man who spoke to him? Any complete stranger? Did YOUR grandfather shed a tear or raise a toast to an uncle or cousin or father that had been hung, shot, or beaten to death just for being black and disliked by a white man and his buddies for a rumor of raping a white woman?
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911. Just three numbers. How can anyone put a young mans life in danger by confronting them with a gun. Bringing up Southern racism is a veiled attempt to cover up this very bad decision by an 53 year old man. He deserved a very long prison sentence.
Brook

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what i'm reading here is disgusting. truly disgusting. on all sides. everybody involved is wrong. he shouldn't have been there, but he didn't deserve to die. lack of judgement on all sides.
3.24.12 ~ I am an Anglo-Saxon woman, mother of 2 sons and 5 adopted Korean daughters (adopted individually at 6 months, 5 years, 10 years, 11 years and 15 years of age), all grown now. I was also the wife of a career Army officer for 30 years. He retired at the rank of colonel.

That said, I just watched the show on 20/20 and couldn't help but find myself totally understanding of the White family and the terrifying situation they found themselves in. Then I was shocked that he was found guilty!

LET ME EXPLAIN: How can we as white people ever begin to understand what it's like to be black, for our 'people' to have a history of hatred vented towards them to the extent that blacks have been dragged behind vehicles until dead, they've been hung with no trial, they've had their little girls killed with a bomb while in church and so much more.

That's the background, that's the history (and reality) the blacks are all keenly aware of. The KKK showing up at their home, breaking down the front door, dragging family members outside and stringing them up to a tree. And is all that hatred in American gone now? Sad to say it is not!

I try to imagine how I'd feel if I were in the same situation and it's sheer terror! You sait for the police? And if they don't show up in time, then what? There's a group of angry young men outside calling my son to come out there. Do they have weapons? Clubs or could it be guns? I'd think it's highly unlikely that they came angry but with nothing to back that up. I'D BE TERRIFIED AND FEAR FOR OUR LIVES!

I have NEVER cared for AL SHARPTON but I found myself wishing I'd had the opportunity to march with him in defense of Mr. John White. I also believe the young men were far more incensed because the White boy was Afro-Amercan. We heard it stated in the car when the cell phone was still on.

And the Ciccero family? Their son went to the White residence in a rage the middle of the night, he was furious about supposed comments the White boy had made about his girlfriend, yelling out for the White son to come outside...and it's WHITE outside and BLACK inside.

It's sad but the Ciccero young man went to the White house looking for trouble. Sadly, HE GOT IT....but it was his fault!

As for me? Well, I'm in the process of adopting anywhere from 2 to 4 older children. It's hard for me to do nothing when I know there's such a need for quality adoptive homes for all the kids currently in foster care. Ironically, I want kids from 10 to 21 and don't care what color they are.

I'm ashamed of the actions of that car load of ENRAGED YOUNG MEN!
LISETTE

Elmont, NY

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Jul 29, 2013
 
You would not believe how many people know nothing about this.

They keep saying.. if it had been the opposite about the Travon Martin case
Lee78

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Mar 31, 2014
 
I just watched this on 20/20, a repeat segment. I had not known about this previously. No matter who you are, what color, what nationality, or where you live the only way a HUMAN BEING should respond to this situation is:

1. LOCK YOUR DOORS
2. CALL THE POLICE
3. IF YOU HAVE A FIREARM MAKE SURE IF IT IS LOADED, SAFETY OFF, YOU ARE TRAINED AND PREPARED TO USE IT AND TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY!
4. IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOME MAKE SURE ANYONE ELSE IN YOUR HOME IS IN A SAFE PLACE AND NOT IN DANGER OF BEING SHOT BY YOU!
5. ONCE THAT PERPETRATOR BREAKS INTO YOUR HOME OR YOUR SECURED AREA...YOU THEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIRE!
6. BECAUSE SOMEONE IS YELLING, SWEARING, OR THREATENING OUTSIDE YOUR HOME DOES NOT GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO STAND YOUR GROUND. THIS IS NOT LIFE THREATENING BUT ONLY WORDS.....

All of us were taught about "sticks and stones will break ny bones but words will never harm me" from childhood.

I LIVE IN A STATE THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO OWN A FIREARM. YOU GO THROUGH A STATE AND FEDERAL CHECK BEFORE YOU CAN PURCHASE. I HAVE TRAINED IN USING A GUN. I WOULD NEVER NEVER USE MY FIREARM UNLESS SOMEONE HAD MADE ACCESS INTO MY HOME AND THE POLICE WERE NOT THERE YET.

THERE IS SO MUCH RESPONSIBILITY IN OWNING A FIREARM.
THE EXCUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ANCESTORS IS OLD AND NOT A LEGAL ONE EITHER.

THE ONLY; WAY TO USE A FIREARM IS LEGALLY!!!!!!!.

IF YOU CHOSE TO OWN IT ILLEGALLY AND USE IT ILLEGAL THEN YOU MUST FACE THE LAW NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, WHAT COLOR, NATIONALITY OR WAY YOU LIVE!

THIS IS YOUR CHOICE YOU TAKE PRIOR TO OWNING AND USING A FIREARM!

I AM JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN WHO HAS DONE EVERYTHING LEGALLY AND RESPONSIVELY IN OWNING A FIREARM.

I ALSO MAKE SURE NO ONE HAS ACCESS TO MY FIREARM, ONLY ME.

PLEASE LOCK UP AND KEEP YOUR FIREARMS AWAY FROM CHILDREN AND OTHERS WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS.
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Mr Watermelonz

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Apr 4, 2014
 
If he stayed in his unsafe hood black on black crime is rampant yet he moved to Miller Place and brang his hood cime with him.

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