Police raid illegal poker halls -

Police raid illegal poker halls -

There are 10 comments on the Newsday story from Nov 8, 2007, titled Police raid illegal poker halls -. In it, Newsday reports that:

Eight illegal gambling operations were broken up when detectives burst into the poker dens that officials said rake in illegal profits while fueling gambling addictions on Long Island, Suffolk District Attorney ...

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New York, NY

#1 Nov 9, 2007
fueling gambling addictions? loan sharks and criminals?

How about Newsday gets a reporter who actually understands the game to write these pieces?

I've played in some of the card clubs in NYC over the past few years and they are more akin to social clubs than anything else. People go there to relax, to see familiar faces, to improve their game, and because it's far more convenient to walk into a card room than to organise home games - which are legal. You'll find these places populated with city lawyers and bankers, IT professionals, gym managers and restaurant owners. Not quite the seedy underground Mr Spota would have everyone believe.

People play cards every day throughout the US for fun and enjoyment. They watch it on TV and read about it in the papers. They aren't crack addicts or members of the Cosa Nostra. Marketing poker players as diseased and criminal is silly and offensive.

NY state needs to wake up and follow California's footsteps by making it legal to set up small card rooms. The state can then earn some tax revenue rather than waste it on needless police raids that junior rural DAs try to use to raise their profile.

But hey, I guess the Foxwoods & AC lobbyists don't want competition, and they are a lot more organised and spend a lot more money than your average poker playing Joe. Nothing will change. We'll be reading the same stories ten years from now.
John Klein

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Nov 9, 2007
Too bad the police don't have anything better to do. Luckily they have no real crime in New York.

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Nov 13, 2007
This article claims that many bad things have happened to people who have attended these games, but substantiates none of its claims. People who become beholden to "loan sharks" because they want to play more and more may have problems, this we all recognize. Sending in Big Brother to keep me from making a choice of my own is not the answer. We're a country full of chi^$ensh*$ losers because we refuse to take responsibility for ourselves and play our own games. We love the old westerns in which the hero pushes all of his chips in, but we don't have the balls to do it ourselves anymore, so we applaud the policeman who helps the addict keep himself under control. I salute you my countrymen, chickens&*@ m%^herfu&^ers all. We fight because we fear.

Astoria, NY

#4 May 7, 2008
Last night I was playing poker in a club in Astoria, NY, when it got raided. I played there for the first time last week, and I went back with my friends last night. I love playing poker. I play on the internet, ps2, house games, and it is my sole reason for going to Atlantic City. I liked this illegal poker club because they were well organized and it was a good atmosphere. Everyone was really nice and cheerful. When I eliminated players in the poker tournament, then shook my hand, and we usually praised each other for good plays made. There were no drugs or alcohol there. Food and sodas were free. When the police raided the club, they had all of us sit down and keep our hands on the poker table. They took our IDs and ran a check for warrants, questioned us one at a time, and then released us players, with no charge. Needless to say, I didn't get my $60 buy-in back from the poker tournament. To be honest, I did not know that this club was illegal. I play poker so much that I didn't stop to think that the police might intrude on us doing something this harmless. If I knew that the NYPD could raid that club, then I wouldn't have been in there, because the last thing I want to do is to get in trouble with the law.

I am not blaming police officers for doing their job. They deserve our respect. The problem is the law and it's double standards. The law in NY says that Bingo is illegal, but churches get away with their games every Sunday. I'm an Atheist and I would never play Bingo. But, why don't police officers raid churches for doing the same thing? I guess if you believe in imaginary god then everything's ok because you are part of the club.
who cares


#6 Aug 6, 2009
suffolk DA needs to get his head out of his ass!! we have an otb on every corner fueling gambling addicts addiction, but that is ok because the state and county are the bookies making money off taxing those addicts. Lets see the DA shut down all the OTB'S then he can preach about illegal card rooms. This law is a joke and our DA just wants to use his power to try and show he is doing something good, when in fact its all bull shit.
who cares


#7 Aug 6, 2009
A Notice To All Police Agencies: Poker is not the crime of the century. Look for drug dealers selling drugs to our kids, and murderer's and people who are really hurting other people. Leave alone and mind your business when it comes to card playing. No body is getting hurt and "IF" someone loses there lifes savings they are the stupid ones and should no better. They are old enough to make that decision. OTB alllows gamblers to gamble there life savings away and people lose there marriage over it, but its not our business. He or She needs to get help on there own. Shut down every OTB and then I will go along with shuting down illegal poker rooms. Till then I say everyone should open up and illegal poker parlor. Support your illegal card room today and let the people of NY STATE decide what the law should be!!!
dave d

Oxford, CT

#8 Nov 19, 2009
This is nuts! I respect the police for what they hane to do everyday and the efforts they put forth for their communities. The fact that they have to waste their time enforcing a law that shouldn't even be on the books is crazy! When a poker game is busted up it is procedure to check for outstanding warrants of any players at the table. Yet participating in a game is not illegal and the process of requesting identification for an act that is not illegal is in and of itself illegal unless an imminent threat to society is exists. Local DA's and state officials have no more reason to look for outstanding warrants on card players at a private club than they do to randomly check at the casinos in CT, NJ or anywhere else. But we all know that politicians are in the pockets of the big boys at the casinos and would never let such things happen! It's a double standard that boils down to payoffs and political contributions. Should officials randomly check for outstanding warrants at a local Stop and Shop there would be as many, if not more, violators than at any card club. I believe that if a club does not charge a percentage rake of every poker pot and simply charged for time at the table, the legal ramifications for club owners would be moot due to the fact that the club would have zero interest in the outcome of any particular hand. It is here where the law becomes grey. Hopefully in the near future, CT and other states will follow PA's and CA's lead and make the card clubs that exist today legal and taxpaying entities which can do nothing other than benefit all involved!
the dealer


#10 May 26, 2010
please who are you kidding theses club make a ton of cash aside from the cash they steal from rebuy tourneys the rake is so inflamed the these stupid players have no idea what they are taking from pots and most of all the owners put all the players in danger from robberies all they care about is the 30 plus thousand a month
Robert Peterson

Boonville, NY

#11 May 30, 2010
I wish www.how-to-lottery.com would offer something like this

Ardsley, NY

#13 Sep 5, 2013
U guy's are friends with us just like some of us are friends with you.it's when we get involved with one another on a higher level tan simply being amicable at the gym is when we run into touble....your friend and high school rebel rouser.Chris prokesch Lieutenant much love from1989 sir junior says hi.u the man.trdeelymm/Irish

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