AA is religious; Harry Emerson Fosdick

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Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#1 May 17, 2011


Works Publishing Company
Church Street P.0. Box 657
New York City...400pp....



This extraordinary book deserves the careful attention of anyone interested in the problem of alcoholism. Whether as victims, friends of victims, physicians, clergymen, psychiatrists or social workers there are many such, and this book will give them, as no other treatise known to this reviewer will, an inside view of the problem which the alcoholic faces. Gothic cathedral windows are not the only things which can be truly seen only from within. Alcoholism is another. All outside views are clouded and unsure. Only one who has been an alcoholic and who has escaped the thraldom can interpret the experience.

This book represents the pooled experience of one hundred men and women who have been victims of alcoholism -- many of them declared hopeless by the experts -- and who have won their freedom and recovered their sanity and self-control. Their stories are detailed and circumstantial, packed with human interest. In America today the disease of alcoholism is increasing. Liquor has been an easy escape from depression. As an English officer in India, reproved for his excessive drinking, lifting his glass and said, "this is the swiftest road out of India," so many Americans have been using hard liquor as a means of flight from their troubles until to their dismay they discover that, free to begin, they are not free to stop. One hundred men and women in this volume, report their experience of enslavement and then of liberation.

The book is not in the least sensational. It is notable for its sanity, restraint, and freedom from over-emphasis and fanaticism. It is a sober, careful, tolerant, sympathetic treatment of the alcoholic's problem and of the successful techniques by which its co-authors have won their freedom. The group sponsoring the book began with two or three ex-alcoholics, who discovered one another through a kindred experience. From this personal kinship a movement started, ex-alcoholic working for alcoholic without fanfare or advertisement, and the movement has spread from one city to another. This book presents the practical experience of this group and describes the methods they employ.

The core of their whole procedure is religious. They are convinced that for the hopeless alcoholic there is only one way out - the expulsion of his obsession by a Power Greater Than Himself. Let it be said at once that there is nothing partisan or sectarian about this religious experience. Agnostics and atheists, along with Catholics, Jews and Protestants, tell their story of discovering the Power Greater Than Themselves. "WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT THERE IS N0 GOD," one atheist in this group heard a voice say when, hospitalized for alcoholism, he faced the utter hopelessness of his condition. Nowhere is the tolerance and open-mindedness of the book more evident than in its treatment of this central matter on which the cure of all these men and women has depended.

They are not partisans of and particular form of organized religion, although they strongly recommend that some religious fellowship be found by their participants. By religion they mean an experience which they personally know and which has saved them from their slavery, when psychiatry and medicine had failed They agree that each man must have his own way of conceiving God, but of God Himself they are utterly sure, and their stories of victory in consequence are a notable addition to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience."

Although the book has the accent of reality and is written with unusual intelligence and skill, humour and modesty mitigating what could easily have been a strident and harrowing tale.- Harry Emerson Fosdick
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#2 May 17, 2011
"The core of their whole procedure is religious."
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#3 May 23, 2011
Comments about AA summarized on my YouTube channel:

Recovering Zionist

Avon Park, FL

#4 May 26, 2011
The zionist media echochamber includes NPR and CNN and pushes the MASADA MYTH , THE BERNIE MADOFF SYNDROME and covers up the cowardly IDF attack on the USS LIBERTY and the Hymie Mossad attack on the MURRAH BUILDING ............ Friends should not let friends drive recklessly ....... the zio - fifth column is driving the USA into perpetual war and bankruptcy .
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#5 May 26, 2011
lol Can only guess by the "friends should not let friends drive recklessly" that Harry Emerson Fosdick was not the only facetious one.
the a team

Silver Lake, OR

#6 May 29, 2011
"The zionist media "where did you hear this crap?

google barry chamisch but there is a phony chamisch site so its confusing
the a team

Silver Lake, OR

#7 May 29, 2011
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#8 May 29, 2011
From my YouTube channel:

Harry Emerson Fosdick presented Christianity in a sensible manner. Unfortunately, Fosdick's writing comes across facetious; tongue-in-cheek, since he simultaneously glorified eugenic elitism. Google "Fosdick, Rockefeller, eugenics". See "American Eugenics Society". Alcoholics Anonymous "Big Book" quotes Fosdick, as well as Herbert Spencer. Spencer coined the phrase "survival of the fittest" (not Darwin). Oxford Group founder Frank Buchman castigated by Reinhold Niebuhr in Christian Century magazine for praising Hitler (Oxford Group AA origin). Helps to understand hatred experienced in AA--a program wherein "love and tolerance of others is our code" and is "a voluntary program" yet court ordered. Interestingly enough, it's Fosdick who, when reviewing AA's "Big Book", states: "The core of their whole procedure is religious" (above on this thread).


Eugenics + religion = Holocaust; why is AA court ordered?

Granted, just watched 'Days of Wine and Roses' and it's an excellent film; heartbreaking. It shows a helpful aspect of AA where alcoholics help one another stay sober. If AA weren't controlled by eugenicist plutocrats, its "Big Book" would have appeared much differently.
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#9 Jun 9, 2011
See the thread with ADN article about homeless being forced out (cited for sleeping in tents). Eugenics...
the A Team

Chehalis, WA

#10 Jun 11, 2011
democrats did it i bet

fairhaven is democrat lots of money and no tolerance but maybe im wrong

hoovervilles in seattle in 30s when they had a i think a republican mayor

whats wrong with Christians?they were the ones i think who started all the hospitals
the A Team

Chehalis, WA

#11 Jun 11, 2011

Bellingham, WA

#12 Jun 13, 2011
the A Team wrote:
democrats did it i bet
fairhaven is democrat lots of money and no tolerance but maybe im wrong
hoovervilles in seattle in 30s when they had a i think a republican mayor
whats wrong with Christians?they were the ones i think who started all the hospitals
No tolerance in Fairhaven? Wow! I've been there many times and never ran into anything but friendliness.

No tolerance for stupid, rude conservatism, perhaps.
I can dig that.
Bruce Deile

Yakima, WA

#13 Dec 15, 2011
Harry Emerson Fosdick is in 'AA Comes of Age' following Dr. Silkworth and Harry Tiebout.
Bruce Deile

Cortez, CO

#15 Feb 1, 2013
Yes, and here is Fosdick saying:

"The core of their whole procedure is religious."
Bruce Deile

Tucson, AZ

#16 Mar 2, 2013
Bill W. went on to use LSD believing it to improve the alcoholics relationship with God; wacked religion.

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