Deadly Sweat Lodge Didn't Have Permits

There are 75 comments on the CBS News story from Oct 13, 2009, titled Deadly Sweat Lodge Didn't Have Permits. In it, CBS News reports that:

Photo: "Sweatbox" structure at Angel Valley resort in Sedona, Ariz. FLAGSTAFF, Ariz.

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Shweaty Balls

United States

#1 Oct 13, 2009
SIGN ME UP !!

Nothing like a sweaty group groupe session to cleanse the spirit.
Doglover-7

United States

#2 Oct 13, 2009
Why didn't they know to drink water and walk in and out every ten minutes?

“NOT RUSSIAN”

Since: May 08

and not from Russia

#3 Oct 13, 2009
....and having a 'permit' would have somehow made it safer?
Same thing woulda happened.
Sweat lodges

Toronto, Canada

#4 Oct 13, 2009
Used by North American Indian tribes & Whites etc

to cleanse the body and prepare for hunts, ceremonies and other events

are a common practice.

Most are held in forests on private property and hold no more than a dozen people

Since: Oct 09

Gilbert, AZ

#5 Oct 13, 2009
white people sure know how to mess things up!! a sweat lodge is sacred to native americans and no one other then natives should be practicing this ceremony
Ehav

Morrisdale, PA

#6 Oct 13, 2009
Russia1513 wrote:
....and having a 'permit' would have somehow made it safer?
Same thing woulda happened.

BULLSEYE!! A "permit" is a "Permission" slip. which is paid to the local king, to do something on the Kings property. Because we own nothing in America. Nothing.
Frank

United States

#7 Oct 13, 2009
Saunas are safe and used in EVERY culture. Most people have enough sense to get out if they start feeling bad.
Ehav

Morrisdale, PA

#8 Oct 13, 2009
lv2bn8v wrote:
white people sure know how to mess things up!! a sweat lodge is sacred to native americans and no one other then natives should be practicing this ceremony

According to who?
I suppose eating tacos should only be done by Mexicans.
Jason Lee

United States

#9 Oct 14, 2009
Why would "Deadly Sweat Lodge Permits" even be available?

Seems to me giving out that kind of permit would just be asking for trouble.

Since: Oct 09

United States

#10 Oct 14, 2009
Ehav wrote:
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According to who?
I suppose eating tacos should only be done by Mexicans.
no but eating tacos isnt a sacred ritual either
Jason Lee

United States

#11 Oct 14, 2009
lv2bn8v wrote:
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no but eating tacos isnt a sacred ritual either
What about the sacred mescaline tacos?
Ehav

Curwensville, PA

#12 Oct 16, 2009
lv2bn8v wrote:
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no but eating tacos isnt a sacred ritual either

Sacred to some. Recreational therapy to others.
Both serve a purpose.
Jason Lee

United States

#13 Oct 16, 2009
Ehav wrote:
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Sacred to some. Recreational therapy to others.
Both serve a purpose.
Not to even mention the fact that a heck of a lot of cultures from all around the globe have traditionally done variations of this.

Since: Oct 09

Gilbert, AZ

#14 Oct 16, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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Not to even mention the fact that a heck of a lot of cultures from all around the globe have traditionally done variations of this.
but they are specifically tyring to copycat a native american sweat lodge and they do not know how to do it right. They are just doing it for money
Rachael

United States

#15 Oct 17, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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Not to even mention the fact that a heck of a lot of cultures from all around the globe have traditionally done variations of this.
I go to Korean saunas all the time. Some of those saunas are extremely hot. But I know to get up and stay hydrated. If you have certain conditions, you are supposed to know not to go in.

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#17 Oct 17, 2009
Rachael wrote:
<quoted text>I go to Korean saunas all the time. Some of those saunas are extremely hot. But I know to get up and stay hydrated. If you have certain conditions, you are supposed to know not to go in.
Well that is a completely differnt story. There are saunas in that area, too. I would suspect if they were simply doing a sauna thing, they might have used common sense and got water when they felt the need.

The article specifically said "sweat lodge". Similar to a sauna, but NOT a sauna. That means they were on some kind of religion kick. Probably were doing anything and everything that new age hippie leader was telling them, even if it was against their better judgment.

That was the big issue here. The one running it wasn't even a qualified Shaman or Medicine Man to have such a thing. It was a capitalist business preying upon the purile wanting a theme party. The theme was NA things that make them feel better.
Rachael

Atlanta, GA

#19 Oct 17, 2009
Little Cat wrote:
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Well that is a completely differnt story. There are saunas in that area, too. I would suspect if they were simply doing a sauna thing, they might have used common sense and got water when they felt the need.
The article specifically said "sweat lodge". Similar to a sauna, but NOT a sauna. That means they were on some kind of religion kick. Probably were doing anything and everything that new age hippie leader was telling them, even if it was against their better judgment.
That was the big issue here. The one running it wasn't even a qualified Shaman or Medicine Man to have such a thing. It was a capitalist business preying upon the purile wanting a theme party. The theme was NA things that make them feel better.
This was a Narcotics anonymous meeting?

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#20 Oct 18, 2009
Rachael wrote:
<quoted text>This was a Narcotics anonymous meeting?
That I have no idea.
Jason Lee

United States

#21 Oct 18, 2009
Rachael wrote:
<quoted text>I go to Korean saunas all the time. Some of those saunas are extremely hot. But I know to get up and stay hydrated. If you have certain conditions, you are supposed to know not to go in.
If you ever get a chance to - try a Russian (or Ukranian) banya.

The real Russians tend to keep their hot rooms pretty dry, but they crank the heat up way beyond anyone else.

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#22 Oct 18, 2009
Catfish wrote:
<quoted text> racist pig.
Really? Since I'm a hybrid and I don't believe people should be used. Especially as theme party material.

Oh wait you're the one on the soldiers threads cheering when a US soldier is killed and I balked at that. I get it now. That's why you're stalking me on these threads.

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