Seattle's Pike Place fishmongers unde...

Seattle's Pike Place fishmongers under fire

There are 90 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jun 12, 2009, titled Seattle's Pike Place fishmongers under fire. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Reporting from Seattle - In this noisy den of brine and ice, scales and slime, fish always have been part meat, part missile.

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Joy321

Chicago, IL

#84 Jun 13, 2009
PETA people are delusional. With every concern in the world, dead fish is what they pick to protest.

Ugh.
DRock

Suffield, CT

#85 Jun 13, 2009
PETA looks more absurd by the minute. This is as ludicrous as their campaign against the "inhumane" cooking of lobsters. On the spectrum of eco-philosophy, they are falling off the extremist edge,polar opposites of rampant exploitation. Balance and common sense are the order of the day not idiocy.
Omnivore

Buffalo Grove, IL

#86 Jun 13, 2009
Alz wrote:
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You don't get it. PETA doesn't care about you. PETA and the deep down Modern Liberals (in or our of PETA) on;y care about tearing down human success. They have another variant of the Modern Liberal disease. It's just that these guys use animals as their means of attack.
(Other variants are the ideological environmentalists, ideological pro-abortion people, ideological anti-war people, etc. This is why most of these people agree on all of these issues and most of the other "liberal" issues.)
Your just caught in it. The short answer is we are dealing with people with a different and abnormal belief system that, at it's core, is anti-human success. Normal people measure success as when things are better or can get better.
Actually, you're clearly not getting it. I am, quite proudly, about as liberal as they come. Most liberals I know are not vegetarians--they're people that tend to take an open view about human rights and protecting people from ideological imposition. Nobody's pro-abortion, and only a jerk would try to argue that anyone is... I, for one, firmly believe in that choice being between a woman and her doctor, and have faith in doctors to help people make the good decisions.

I also of the opinion that socialized health care is a good idea because the financial burden of those who are uninsured waiting until what might have been a minor medical condition has become life-threatening seeks public emergency care and often can't pay the bill, which comes on us taxpayers. Just as a vast majority of Americans agree that mandatory driver's insurance is a good idea, it is now a majority that has realized not doing anything about health care costs us more and that the system is screwed and benefits almost no one but insurance companies and the uber-rich, and that we, at a macro level, need to fix it.

I'm excited to see that I am among the majority again, and that taxes on working Americans have gone down, we're working toward health care solutions, a smart, experienced, and thoughtful judge is going to be on the Supreme Court (with the support of G.H.W. Bush and Laura Bush, it seems, no less), and that we actually have a brilliant person who cares about the constitution and regular Americans in office.

I just also happen to enjoy a good aged cut of meat.

Liberals are much more thoughtful than the characature nutters like Limbaugh would like to paint. He's such a sad little irrelevant man now, it's kind of funny.

But by no means is PETA representative of the majority of liberals, or the plurality of Americans in general, who voted for the good guy in the last election.

You really shouldn't fear liberalism--in fact, maybe you should give it a chance. It feels good to know that you're on the side of ensuring Americans' freedoms and having a healthy support structure.

Alz

Since: Oct 08

Chicago

#87 Jun 13, 2009
Omnivore wrote:
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Actually, you're clearly not getting it. I am, quite proudly, about as liberal as they come. Most liberals I know are not vegetarians--they're people that tend to take an open view about human rights and protecting people from ideological imposition. Nobody's pro-abortion, and only a jerk would try to argue that anyone is... I, for one, firmly believe in that choice being between a woman and her doctor, and have faith in doctors to help people make the good decisions.
I also of the opinion that socialized health care is a good idea because the financial burden of those who are uninsured waiting until what might have been a minor medical condition has become life-threatening seeks public emergency care and often can't pay the bill, which comes on us taxpayers. Just as a vast majority of Americans agree that mandatory driver's insurance is a good idea, it is now a majority that has realized not doing anything about health care costs us more and that the system is screwed and benefits almost no one but insurance companies and the uber-rich, and that we, at a macro level, need to fix it.
I'm excited to see that I am among the majority again, and that taxes on working Americans have gone down, we're working toward health care solutions, a smart, experienced, and thoughtful judge is going to be on the Supreme Court (with the support of G.H.W. Bush and Laura Bush, it seems, no less), and that we actually have a brilliant person who cares about the constitution and regular Americans in office.
I just also happen to enjoy a good aged cut of meat.
Liberals are much more thoughtful than the characature nutters like Limbaugh would like to paint. He's such a sad little irrelevant man now, it's kind of funny.
But by no means is PETA representative of the majority of liberals, or the plurality of Americans in general, who voted for the good guy in the last election.
You really shouldn't fear liberalism--in fact, maybe you should give it a chance. It feels good to know that you're on the side of ensuring Americans' freedoms and having a healthy support structure.
You may be retracting some of this over the next few years as Obama's War on Prosperity and Business goofs up the country.

As for taxes, since the bottom half only pay 3% of the taxes, they won't see any real breaks. Unfortunately, the opposite is true as fees and other taxes kick in.

As for healthcare, you realize that when the government takes over, they will be like an HMO - but much worse. It will be much worse because they'll be the ONLY HMO and we won't have recourse when they screw up.

You wouldn't know it if your stuck getting news from liberal sources (like NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC, etc.), but the Canadians are rethinking their Socialized system because it's failing.

See "Canadian Health Care Lies In Ruins" at
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx...

As for being in the majority, Obama's ratings on the issues are slowly cracking as the understanding about how terrible the Liberals' and Obama's Socialism is starting to sink in.

Read up on the healthcare issue. It's like you think or have been told.
Konnecticut Better Yet

Norwich, CT

#88 Jun 13, 2009
Alz wrote:
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You may be retracting some of this over the next few years as Obama's War on Prosperity and Business goofs up the country.
As for taxes, since the bottom half only pay 3% of the taxes, they won't see any real breaks. Unfortunately, the opposite is true as fees and other taxes kick in.
As for healthcare, you realize that when the government takes over, they will be like an HMO - but much worse. It will be much worse because they'll be the ONLY HMO and we won't have recourse when they screw up.
You wouldn't know it if your stuck getting news from liberal sources (like NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC, etc.), but the Canadians are rethinking their Socialized system because it's failing.
See "Canadian Health Care Lies In Ruins" at
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx...
As for being in the majority, Obama's ratings on the issues are slowly cracking as the understanding about how terrible the Liberals' and Obama's Socialism is starting to sink in.
Read up on the healthcare issue. It's like you think or have been told.
NOTHING is what we think or were told by Obama. The spending. The takeovers. The patriot act. The "transparency." Everything he criticized Bush for, he's doing 10-fold. But it's all good when he does it.

And he doesn't need to provide a recourse. He screws up---boom---it's Bush's fault. He can't lose. We all will, but he wont.

Alz

Since: Oct 08

Chicago

#89 Jun 13, 2009
Konnecticut Better Yet wrote:
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NOTHING is what we think or were told by Obama. The spending. The takeovers. The patriot act. The "transparency." Everything he criticized Bush for, he's doing 10-fold. But it's all good when he does it.
And he doesn't need to provide a recourse. He screws up---boom---it's Bush's fault. He can't lose. We all will, but he wont.
Yes, but his support is starting to crack as people see that a) things aren't getting better and b) that he seems content with policies that hurt people and businesses.

See "Obama’s issues crumbling" at
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/obamas-issues-...

An excerpt:

"At last, there is convincing evidence that Obama’s poll numbers may be descending to earth. While his approval remains high — and his personal favorability is even higher — the underlying numbers suggest that a decline may be in the offing. Even as he stands on his pedestal, the numbers under his feet are crumbling."

"According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39. Scott Rasmussen notes that “this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue.” Last month, he had the Democrats holding a one-point lead, but they lost it in June’s polling."

"And the Democratic leads over Republicans on their core issues are also dropping. Particularly interesting is the Democratic decline over healthcare, from an 18-point lead in May to only 10 points now."

"A Gallup poll also confirms that the president’s personal ratings are high, but the underlying data less so."

"As it becomes clearer that the deficit caused by spending has landed us in a new economic crisis, entirely of Obama’s own making, his popularity and job performance are likely to drop as well."

"The old recession — that the public says was caused by Bush — shows signs of winding down. But the new recession and/or inflation — triggered by Obama’s massive deficits — is just now coming upon us."

"If Obama refuses to cut back on his spending/stimulus plans (despite convincing evidence that Americans are not spending the money), he has three options:

a) He can raise taxes, which will trigger a deeper recession;

b) He can print money, which will trigger huge inflation;

c) He can pay more interest to borrow money, which will send the economy diving down again."

"The blame for these outcomes will fall squarely on Obama’s deficit and spending policies. The fact that Americans are aware of these issues, and already disapprove of Obama’s performance on them, indicates that they will be increasingly receptive to blaming him for the 'new' recession."

In other words, Obama and the liberals in the media can't keep lying to us.
the scarborator

Puyallup, WA

#90 Jun 18, 2009
this is very stupid. why don't these people just silently protest and not eat fish or throw them? don't they have anything better to do? Throwing fish? are you kidding? Why don't they now go after the fishermen who are hooking them? Next the big game hunters? And the analogy of throwing dead kittens? Who the hell eats kittens? And lamb just doesn't look as good as fish. Get over it you overly sensitive idiots!
Konnecticut Better Yet

Norwich, CT

#91 Jun 18, 2009
the scarborator wrote:
this is very stupid. why don't these people just silently protest and not eat fish or throw them? don't they have anything better to do? Throwing fish? are you kidding? Why don't they now go after the fishermen who are hooking them? Next the big game hunters? And the analogy of throwing dead kittens? Who the hell eats kittens? And lamb just doesn't look as good as fish. Get over it you overly sensitive idiots!
Yep, they have better things to do now. The chided the President for killing a fly, and according to the ticker on Fox, PETA sent him a live fly trap, where the flies can be captured unharmed and released outside.

I think the only ones more stupid than PETA are the people who actually send them their money.
INTERESTING

AOL

#92 Jun 18, 2009
INTERESTING
David

Seattle, WA

#93 Jun 21, 2009
I propose we slap a PETA representative across the face with a cold, dead fish.

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