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Myth Versus Fact - Hispanic/Latino Immigration Issues

There are 31 comments on the story from Apr 13, 2010, titled Myth Versus Fact - Hispanic/Latino Immigration Issues. In it, reports that:

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“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#22 Apr 15, 2010
Cricket 23 wrote:
Please review the following report on the FISCAL COST OF IMMIGRATION by
economist Edwin Rubenstein just released this past week:
A partial summary of the report:
The Fiscal Impact on 15 Federal Departments surveyed was:$346 billion in
fiscal related costs in FY 2007.
Each immigrant cost taxpayers more than $9,000 per year.
An immigrant household (2 adults, 2 children) cost taxpayers $36,000 per
Legal immigrants were not separated out from illegal immigrants for the
fiscal impact study, but if they had been, the fiscal cost per ILLEGAL
immigrant would be even more shocking than the figures quoted above.
The most extensive and authoritative study, prior to economist Edwin
Rubenstein's "The Fiscal Impact of Immigration" (April 200 , is the
National Research Council (NRC)'s The New Americans: Economic, Demographic
and Fiscal Effects of Immigration (1997).
The NRC staff analyzed federal, state, and local government expenditures on
programs such as Medicaid, AFDC (now TANF), and SSI, as well as the cost of
educating immigrants' foreign- and native-born children.
NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal
annual expenditures and pays $10,664 in federal taxes-that is, they generate
a fiscal deficit of $2,682 (1996 dollars)per household.
In 2007 dollars this is a deficit of $3,408 per immigrant household.
With 9 million households currently headed by immigrants, more than $30
billion ($3,408 x 9 million) of the federal deficit represents money
transferred from native taxpayers to immigrants.
Our national immigration policies have to work for the United States. While
improving the plight of the world's poor is a laudable goal, the finite
resources we have available to fulfill that goal would be swamped if there
wasn't some orderly and manageable system in place to limit entry into the
United States to what this nation can actually support. The more illegal
aliens that are permitted to subvert the immigration system, the fewer
immigrants we can accommodate who might actually produce a positive benefit
for our country.
The more we become a nation of illegal immigrants, the deeper we fall into
So does this money just disappear into thin air because it's being spent on illegals or does it move around within the economy?

You see you rant that it cost so much money yet you conveniently pretend that this money does nothing for the US economy.

Why is that?

Long Beach, CA

#23 Apr 15, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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So does this money just disappear into thin air because it's being spent on illegals or does it move around within the economy?
You see you rant that it cost so much money yet you conveniently pretend that this money does nothing for the US economy.
Why is that?
The economy isn't so good, no matter what they keep saying.

Foreclosure rates surge, biggest jump in 5 years

LOS ANGELES — A record number of U.S. homes were lost to foreclosure in the first three months of this year, a sign banks are starting to wade through the backlog of troubled home loans at a faster pace, according to a new report.

RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday that the number of U.S. homes taken over by banks jumped 35 percent in the first quarter from a year ago. In addition, households facing foreclosure grew 16 percent in the same period and 7 percent from the last three months of 2009.

More homes were taken over by banks and scheduled for a foreclosure sale than in any quarter going back to at least January 2005, when RealtyTrac began reporting the data, the firm said.

"We're right now on pace to see more than 1 million bank repossessions this year," said Rick Sharga, a RealtyTrac senior vice president.

Bethlehem, PA

#24 Apr 15, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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So does this money just disappear into thin air because it's being spent on illegals or does it move around within the economy?
You see you rant that it cost so much money yet you conveniently pretend that this money does nothing for the US economy.
Why is that?
Some moves around the economy, BUT it can just as easily BE MOVED BY AMERICANS, and should be. And BILLIONS LEAVE THE ECONOMY to help shitholes like mexico, and their economy not ours.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#25 Apr 16, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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9 billion a year that moves around California's economy.
You forgot to say that.
Cost Taxpayers 9 Billion ,you forgot to say that.

Redmond, WA

#26 Apr 16, 2010
Too much of our money has been sent to Mexico. They are all riding the gravy train and we are paying for it. If they are not American citizens, they should have no rights! What gives them the right to get free medical and welfare and SS? They have not earned the right either. Did they pay in a cent of SS? NO They just come here and breed like cockroaches and let us pay for it. Think about it. Has the economy went downhill since the 70s when they were allowed to roam free? It certainly has. Look at towns where there is alot of them. The towns now look like slums and people don't feel safe in their own homes. They have destroyed our country. I agree with Radical Tim and Cricket 23 and I have seen how they are destroying our country firsthand. I used to feel sorry for them but they don't deserve our pity any longer. They have spit in our faces.

Palm Beach Gardens, FL

#27 Apr 16, 2010
Illegals Very simple. Put them all back from where they came from, NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS, then put Bounty hunters on the Boarders and pay them for every Illegal they find

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#28 Apr 17, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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So does this money just disappear into thin air because it's being spent on illegals or does it move around within the economy?
You see you rant that it cost so much money yet you conveniently pretend that this money does nothing for the US economy.
Why is that?
Unemployment in California 12% hightest in the nation.

San Bernardino County spent millions on welfare for illegal immigrants'
American children

San Bernardino County spent nearly $64 million in state and federal money
last year to provide welfare benefits to the American-born children of
illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to welfare. But their citizen children

Nationwide, one in three immigrant-headed households uses at least one major
welfare program, compared with 19 percent of citizen households, according
to the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank
that advocates immigration reduction.

In California, 192,660 citizen children are getting welfare checks passed
through their illegal immigrant parents. That costs $546 million a year in
state, federal and county funds, officials say.

Some lawmakers say it's an expense California can't afford as the state
struggles to close a nearly $20 billion budget gap.

"We should never be giving benefits to people in this country illegally,"
said state Sen. Bob Dutton, R-Rancho Cucamonga.

County officials provided data from August 2009 to show the funding and
number of American-born children of illegal immigrants receiving aid in the
CalWORKs and food stamp programs.

Information for all of 2009 was not easily retrievable, officials said, but
the August figures are an accurate reflection of a monthly total during the

The county's Transitional Assistance Department runs the CalWORKs program,
which provides cash aid and services to needy families, as

well as the food stamp program.
The maximum CalWORKs grant for a family of three in the county is $661 per
month. The maximum amount of food stamp assistance that a family of three
can get is $526 a month.

The American-born children of illegal immigrants made up 15.5 percent of the
CalWORKs caseload and 6.5 percent of the food stamp caseload in the county
last year.

About 15,000 citizen children of illegal immigrants in the county received
either CalWORKs or food stamps in a typical month last year. More than
11,000 used both programs in an average month in 2009, according to county

In August, the county spent nearly $3.3 million for CalWORKs and about $2
million for food stamps for the American-born children of illegal
immigrants. The two programs totaled nearly $64 million when multiplied over
12 months.
Bankrupting California

Lake Hughes, CA

#29 Apr 17, 2010
The link to the Calworks caseload chart below shows that the zero parent category (children of undocumented women) are the largest recipients of Calworks funding. The caseload also demonstrates that a third of all the caseload for zero parent children are in LA County.

Medi Cal funded births to undocumented women

Medi-Cal chart of counties with undocumented women childbirths showing LA county as the source of most Medi Cal funded deliveries to undocumented women.

On page 11, the Medi-Cal report shows that live childbirth is the major cost driver in the Medi-Cal budget.

On page 8 there is a chart showing that non disabled children constitute half of all Medi-Cal spending in California

Page 22 of the Medi-Cal report below shows that Latino’s are the largest recipients of Medi-Cal spending.
What this chart doesn’t reflect is that most of the Latino population who are Medi-Cal recipients are not the Latino undocumented moms having the babies, who end up being mostly uninsured but their Latino children who are born on Medi-Cal.

Chart showing that Calworks ( known as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families at the Federal Level) receives 1/3rd of all Calworks funding nationwide. Over half of all Calworks recipients are in LA County.

Statistics from WIC (women, infants and children), foodstamps, etc… reflect the same statistical data as shown above.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#30 Apr 17, 2010
RadicalTim wrote:
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What about those who may qualify for S.S.A ?...
Disability other programs?...Tim
And don't forget the things that are neglected such as free/reduced meals at schools, TANF, etc. I did the breakdown of just free and reduced meals at ONE smaller school in my county as we spend and it was shocking. It was tens of thousands of dollars. The school has about 580 students and 44% were eligable for reduced meals and 21% for free meals. 65% are eligable for basically aid.

Regular meals cost: Breakfast $1.20, Lunch $2.10. reduced cost is a min of $0.30 for breakfast and $0.40 for lunch. Based on reported household income. If I did the math correctly, 377 students qualify for some form of reduction. If we look ONLY at reduced meals (not free) and JUST lunch only it is $1.70 or $641 a day rounded up. Now look at the year, 180 school days and do that math... We have no idea how many of these students are illegally here but we did have a high population of illegals before the crackdown and we still do since the feds told up to slow down and back off. How much will a community spend per year on feeding illegals? We are nto allowed to ask immigratin status for students so we have no idea. But just looking at meal costs, it will add up.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#31 Apr 17, 2010
[ah yes i remember back in the 80s when i lived in haltom city -the mexicans backed right up in our driveway and stole our car trailer-is that open 355 days a year huge flea market still there? i bet i could find all the things i had stolen there and buy them back!! hmm

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#32 May 2, 2010
yeah and every year mexicans legal and illegal send how much back to mexico??? and since americans are paying for every anchor baby they could militantly inbreed out of each other.and since mother like daughter maria has 2 kids by the time she turns 16 and is on welfare living with her mother who is ransacking the food banksa and stealing things to sell in her yard.

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