Myth Versus Fact - Hispanic/Latino Immigration Issues

Apr 13, 2010 | Posted by: RadicalTim | Full story: blog.seattlepi.com

The Greenwood Senior Center will host a forum on the important subject of Hispanic/Latino immigration this coming Monday, April 19 at 12pm .

Tuesday April 13th 2010 seattepi.con At a local Latino immigration discussion will be held at a senior center... The subject reported will be facts or myths ....
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William Maxwell

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The fact is that undocument will add 1.5 trillion to the economy. But we need to secure our Borders first, and create a new ID to apply for jobs, I say make undocumented pay for them, plus other requierements for them to get a green card.
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William Maxwell wrote:
The fact is that undocument will add 1.5 trillion to the economy. But we need to secure our Borders first, and create a new ID to apply for jobs, I say make undocumented pay for them, plus other requierements for them to get a green card.
Are you using some of that fuzzy math?
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after amnesty, too late. expect more on the welfare roll.
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dude, if they were going to close the borders they would have done so in the 70S and 80S.
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freebird wrote:
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Are you using some of that fuzzy math?
the fuzzy part is that figure doesnt take into account the cost of illegal immigration over one year.

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Myth or reality?
Reality is unowned millions of illegals in this country....
Myth jobs will be available for all of them while ,
millions of U.S citizens are un employed.....
Tim
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plopsdad wrote:
<quoted text>the fuzzy part is that figure doesnt take into account the cost of illegal immigration over one year.
They never do.

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plopsdad wrote:
<quoted text>the fuzzy part is that figure doesnt take into account the cost of illegal immigration over one year.
What about those who may qualify for S.S.A ?...
Disability other programs?...Tim

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Apr 14, 2010
 
William Maxwell wrote:
The fact is that undocument will add 1.5 trillion to the economy. But we need to secure our Borders first, and create a new ID to apply for jobs, I say make undocumented pay for them, plus other requierements for them to get a green card.
Cost of Illegal Immigration

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

O'Reilly Factor story on the cost of illegal immigration

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Paying For Immigrant Births

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/...

Illegal Alien care from 1 Florida hospital

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Breaking the Piggy Bank: How Illegal Immigration is Sending Schools Into the
Red

http://www.mnforsustain.org/immg_costs_of_edu...

Illegal immigrants burden Portland-area schools

http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2...

Illegal Immigration In Eastern Carolina Part 1 - WITN

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Illegal Immigration In Eastern Carolina Part 2 - WITN

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Apr 14, 2010
 
Please review the following report on the FISCAL COST OF IMMIGRATION by
economist Edwin Rubenstein just released this past week:
http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.p...

A partial summary of the report:

The Fiscal Impact on 15 Federal Departments surveyed was:$346 billion in
fiscal related costs in FY 2007.

Each immigrant cost taxpayers more than $9,000 per year.

An immigrant household (2 adults, 2 children) cost taxpayers $36,000 per
year.

Legal immigrants were not separated out from illegal immigrants for the
fiscal impact study, but if they had been, the fiscal cost per ILLEGAL
immigrant would be even more shocking than the figures quoted above.

The most extensive and authoritative study, prior to economist Edwin
Rubenstein's "The Fiscal Impact of Immigration" (April 200 , is the
National Research Council (NRC)'s The New Americans: Economic, Demographic
and Fiscal Effects of Immigration (1997).

The NRC staff analyzed federal, state, and local government expenditures on
programs such as Medicaid, AFDC (now TANF), and SSI, as well as the cost of
educating immigrants' foreign- and native-born children.

NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal
annual expenditures and pays $10,664 in federal taxes-that is, they generate
a fiscal deficit of $2,682 (1996 dollars)per household.

In 2007 dollars this is a deficit of $3,408 per immigrant household.

With 9 million households currently headed by immigrants, more than $30
billion ($3,408 x 9 million) of the federal deficit represents money
transferred from native taxpayers to immigrants.

Our national immigration policies have to work for the United States. While
improving the plight of the world's poor is a laudable goal, the finite
resources we have available to fulfill that goal would be swamped if there
wasn't some orderly and manageable system in place to limit entry into the
United States to what this nation can actually support. The more illegal
aliens that are permitted to subvert the immigration system, the fewer
immigrants we can accommodate who might actually produce a positive benefit
for our country.

The more we become a nation of illegal immigrants, the deeper we fall into
anarchy.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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California's Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers Nearly $9 Billion A Year


FAIR has released their latest report on the costs of illegal aliens to
taxpayers. The main costs are in education, health care and prison costs for
illegal aliens in jail.
North County Times

California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9
billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the
Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group
that promotes stricter immigration policies.
Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost,
estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care
for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes
are the next two largest expenses measured in the study, the author said.

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Jack Martin, who wrote the report, said Thursday that the $9 billion
figure does not include other expenses that are difficult to measure, such
as special English instruction, school lunch programs, and welfare benefits
for American workers displaced by illegal immigrant workers.

"It's a bottom of the range number," Martin said.

FAIR drew from the U.S. Census report and other sources. This study matches
an earlier study By the Center for Immigration Reform(CIS) that I reported
on (see: "Latest Report: Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion A Year"
from Sep. 4, 2004). Of course you can't do any straight reporting on this
issue without having some pro illegal alien advocate group playing the race
card once again to justify the illegal behavior of these people who suck dry
our tax system and run emergency rooms into bankruptcy.

Since: Dec 06

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Here's A couple facts the current 14th amendment needs to be up dated...
The myth of health care and all benefits to illegals must be questioned.
Border security TO END THE PLANNED INVASION ...

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William Maxwell wrote:
The fact is that undocument will add 1.5 trillion to the economy. But we need to secure our Borders first, and create a new ID to apply for jobs, I say make undocumented pay for them, plus other requierements for them to get a green card.
...and take out two trillion for social services/education & law enforcement.The use of the La Raza convoluted 'undocumented' clearly states your amnesty beliefs.Might want to stay out of Arizona now,too.
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William Maxwell wrote:
The fact is that undocument will add 1.5 trillion to the economy. But we need to secure our Borders first, and create a new ID to apply for jobs, I say make undocumented pay for them, plus other requierements for them to get a green card.
I asked you once before, explain how you figure illegals will add 1.5 trillion to the economy.
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Check this out and tell me why we would want them here. http://www.crimestoppersyakco.org/staff.php You can look at every crime and they will be there. They don't come to work, they come to rape, rob and kill. I saw my hometown destroyed by them. Now they are working on destroying our country. I went to the doctor yesterday and there was a man who could not speak English and had to have an interpreter. He was prescribed acupuncture by his doctor. His interpreter asked if it was covered by DHS. What's with that? I have fibromyalgia and I can't get acupuncture! I guess I speak the wrong language. Maybe if I press 1.....
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Mimi wrote:
Check this out and tell me why we would want them here. http://www.crimestoppersyakco.org/staff.php You can look at every crime and they will be there. They don't come to work, they come to rape, rob and kill. I saw my hometown destroyed by them. Now they are working on destroying our country. I went to the doctor yesterday and there was a man who could not speak English and had to have an interpreter. He was prescribed acupuncture by his doctor. His interpreter asked if it was covered by DHS. What's with that? I have fibromyalgia and I can't get acupuncture! I guess I speak the wrong language. Maybe if I press 1.....
They help them scam the system.

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UGH here we go california all over again-just to update you pinche gabachos have the right to stfu this is mexico now and the sooner the liberals let you know how lucky your are-you will praise mexico for all they have done for this country.and you will buy my new $25 million dollar burrito si es muy bueno -you will have racial profiling which means we can get away with anything we want but you whitey we will be watching you with our homeland security hum vs so cuidado putos!

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b4its2late wrote:
<quoted text>I asked you once before, explain how you figure illegals will add 1.5 trillion to the economy.
Those big fat profits them white business owners make off that cheap beaner labor...

Yeee Haaaa

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copperpossum wrote:
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...and take out two trillion for social services/education & law enforcement.The use of the La Raza convoluted 'undocumented' clearly states your amnesty beliefs.Might want to stay out of Arizona now,too.
Hold on gringo, all that adds to the economy also. You make it seem like America spends this money and it all disappears into some super secret cave.

Wake up chola.

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Cricket 23 wrote:
California's Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers Nearly $9 Billion A Year
FAIR has released their latest report on the costs of illegal aliens to
taxpayers. The main costs are in education, health care and prison costs for
illegal aliens in jail.
North County Times
California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9
billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the
Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group
that promotes stricter immigration policies.
Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost,
estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care
for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes
are the next two largest expenses measured in the study, the author said.
...
Jack Martin, who wrote the report, said Thursday that the $9 billion
figure does not include other expenses that are difficult to measure, such
as special English instruction, school lunch programs, and welfare benefits
for American workers displaced by illegal immigrant workers.
"It's a bottom of the range number," Martin said.
FAIR drew from the U.S. Census report and other sources. This study matches
an earlier study By the Center for Immigration Reform(CIS) that I reported
on (see: "Latest Report: Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion A Year"
from Sep. 4, 2004). Of course you can't do any straight reporting on this
issue without having some pro illegal alien advocate group playing the race
card once again to justify the illegal behavior of these people who suck dry
our tax system and run emergency rooms into bankruptcy.
9 billion a year that moves around California's economy.

You forgot to say that.

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