Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#70322 Mar 27, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Monotheism
What's admirable, profound and spiritually refined about monotheism?

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#70323 Mar 27, 2014
A powerful force of the higher consciousness is descending into me with a subtle sound and a brilliant golden-white light from the superior planes of consciousness that lie above the head region. Let me see if it leads to trance or if it simply tries to open up either the forehead center or the cardiac center....

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#70324 Mar 27, 2014
I'm going to lie down...the pressure of the descending force of the higher consciousness is getting too much to bear and I'm slipping into an indrawn state that may soon lead to waking trance. The heat, sound, light created by the dynamic descent of the force of the higher consciousness from above the head and the resultant opening up of the force centers in the brain and along the spine are too overpowering for now. Bye.

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#70326 Mar 27, 2014
JOEL wrote:
ADAM: Monotheism
JOEL: LOL.
Judaism is monolatristic not monotheistic.
Ok, now, let me test your IQ/reasoning skills:
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
1) Monolatry or monotheism ends in dualism - is dualism a rational doctrine? Why or why not?
2) What is reality? Why?
3) How did this universe come into existence? Why?(give a plausible hypothesis/theory)
4) Where is G-d? Of what substance is this G-d of the Torah made up of?
5) How does this G-d causally connect with energy/matter?
6) Are these statements logical?-
A) Effect is nothing else but the cause itself in partial or in complete manifestation.
B) Cause should be at least as great as the effect in terms of information content.
(smiles in advance)
1) Dualism contradicts monotheism
2) Whatever you think it is
3) Big bang. Because the Master of the Universe decided so.
4) G-d of the Torah is incorporeal
5) The Master of the Universe is the prime mover of all.
6) To a believer yes, since no one can either prove it so or not so
A) ok
B) maybe

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#70327 Mar 27, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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What's admirable, profound and spiritually refined about monotheism?
It changed man's thinking of the universe and his place in it.

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#70329 Mar 27, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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What do you find "admirable" about the Torah?
Give me 1 teaching from Torah that's original, profound and spiritual.
deflection

You asserted a connection between pop Tantra and the Torah. I asked you elaborate.

FOS as usual.

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#70330 Mar 27, 2014
former res wrote:
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I still bet I'd rather meet and spend time with Huggy.
At least I could tease and make fun of him in person!
Joel would just want to impress me with his good-looking, long legged, well dressed friends and fancy stores and night clubs.
Way too vain and superficial. And a true intellectual lightweight!
At least Huggy has some sort of religious principles that he seems to believe in - whatever they are - nobody knows.
I agree Huggy would be more amusing in person, though I would be wary that he would try to drug me, kidnap me, and force me to wear tights to his church.

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#70331 Mar 27, 2014
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A guy named Jeff Wise posted an articled to Slate that annoyed me last week.
He had called an article "Wrong" that theorized a fire onboard the Malaysia plane (I posted that article here a week or so ago and said I thought it made sense) took it down.
I sent him a note and told him his article didn't convince the other article was wrong and would he write a new article admitting he was wrong if it turns out the other guy was right!
He said yes and that his Slate editor had already arranged a follow up piece. That satisfied me.
Check this out. When you have some time. It's truly chilling. From the Air France crash a few years back. State of the art plane with only a minor technical issue early on in the event, The only way out of stall is to point the nose down but the instinct is to do the opposite, Jeff Wise wrote this as well. I didn't realize that until just now.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/av...
wow - ouch!

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#70332 Mar 27, 2014
former res wrote:
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A guy named Jeff Wise posted an articled to Slate that annoyed me last week.
He had called an article "Wrong" that theorized a fire onboard the Malaysia plane (I posted that article here a week or so ago and said I thought it made sense) took it down.
I sent him a note and told him his article didn't convince the other article was wrong and would he write a new article admitting he was wrong if it turns out the other guy was right!
He said yes and that his Slate editor had already arranged a follow up piece. That satisfied me.
Check this out. When you have some time. It's truly chilling. From the Air France crash a few years back. State of the art plane with only a minor technical issue early on in the event, The only way out of stall is to point the nose down but the instinct is to do the opposite, Jeff Wise wrote this as well. I didn't realize that until just now.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/av...
".....At 2:02 am, the captain leaves the flight deck to take a nap. Within 15 minutes, everyone aboard the plane will be dead.]
HughBe

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#70333 Mar 27, 2014
Frijoles---the issue will be whether one can now opt out of civil rights laws because of one's religious beliefs

HughBe--- In essence YOU are saying that the only ones who have rights are the homosexuals. People like me have no right to their RELIGIOUS beliefs and so if I do not believe that you and your male companion should be married YOU and the law championed by the rear specialists shall FORCE US to do things against our CONSCIENCE and our beliefs.

Whatever happened to FREEDOM of RELIGION and more importantly FREEDOM in general?

Frijoles---Up to now, the US courts have been VERY clear that civil rights trumps religious rights in most cases.

HughBe--- I need not google it to know that you are incorrect. To be correct you should have said IN RECENT TIMES.

Frijoles--- Religious expression has its limits.

HughBe--- Tell that to the Founding Fathers.

Frijoles---- You are free to worship on your own as long as you are not trampling on others people's civil rights.

HughBe--- Others should NOT have any right to FORCE you to do anything against your CONSCIENCE or beliefs.

Frijoles---The current case before the Supreme Court may change this.

HughBe--- Let us see.

Frijoles----However, the only reason the issue is before the courts is that it involves the new health care (Obamacare). Superfically, the case is about implementation of the new law. The religious angle is a repercussion of the case, since it involves a religious corporation (if there is such a thing -thats part of the debate).

HughBe--- noted.

Frijoles---I get that your bible thumping precludes you from understanding that gay rights is an equality issue.

HughB--- Why are you anti-Moses and the Tanach, you non "bible thumping" religious person?

Frijoles---No need to get back into that discussion except to note that demographically and legally, you are on the loosing side of that debate. Thanks Gods.

HughBe--- Indeed, you are correct when you say "Thanks GODS". However, the ALMIGHTY shall deal with the matter and this is an UNCONDITIONAL guarantee.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#70334 Mar 27, 2014
HughBe---What do POVERTY levels have to do with someone being FORCED to drive a car to a location where a CRIME was subsequently committed and then the kidnapped gets arrested and IMPRISONED for 32 years?

2. It is clear to me that you see a link between poverty and half-life, the other point in my post and which related to a DIFFERENT scenario.

Frijoles---FR already posted the link between poverty, race, and opportunity. He does have a basis for agreement with you, if you would mellow enough to see it.

HughBe--- Perhaps you are correct about the agreement thing but my words above to YOU are clear.

Frijoles----Half life?(from your other post). What do you mean?

HughBe---"the length of time needed for the radioactivity of a radioactive substance to be reduced by half"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#70335 Mar 27, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Me thinks you would have to stand in line behind Michelle Bachman and Rick Santorum, who, by the way, despite their similarities to you, do disgust better than you.
HughBe---if it be the will of the Almighty I could be the ruler of America. Now go ahead and mock the idea.

Frijoles---Me thinks you would have to stand in line behind Michelle Bachman and Rick Santorum, who, by the way, despite their similarities to you, do disgust better than you.

HughBe--- My son, you are not connected to the ALMIGHTY and so you are in no position to speak for Him. On the other hand you are qualified to speak for the gods.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#70336 Mar 27, 2014
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There was a trail of his blood from the crime scene to his truck to his bedroom.
Guilty.
HughBe--- My memory tells me that the substance in his blood should not have been at the level it was based on its half-life. It was a long time ago but that is what my memory tells me. I believe it was some preservative.

Former---There was a trail of his blood from the crime scene to his truck to his bedroom.

Guilty.

HughBe--- Intelligent of you. I take it that a trail of blood from point x via the road to your house miles away means that you are responsible for it.

HughBe

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#70337 Mar 27, 2014
Former---My poor recuperating friend, I have granted that the US is a relatively religious country.

HughBe--- At LAAAAAAST

Former---No, not at last. I said this a long time ago.
We have a lot of bible thumpers here, like you :))

HughBe--- There are not many like me anywhere on this planet.

Former---I am simply reiterating the separation between church and state that most of us fight hard to maintain. Now you dig, mon?

HUghBe---Certainly there are some holes that I dig but not others and the hole that you speak of is an example of a hole that I shall not enter.

Now, the idea of separation of church and state did not prevent the CONGRESS of the US to print the FIRST BIBLE in English and also to APPROVE it for the use in SCHOOLS. It also did NOT prevent states from having a state RELIGION e.g. Massachusetts.
Dig that, Mon.

Former---Bygones. We also used to have slaves. Get with the times my man.

HughBe--- Son it cannot be bygones. It shows the INTENT of the founders. One cannot intentionally or unintentionally misrepresent the ORIGINAL INTENT and it is acceptable.

On the matter of slavery is it part of the Constitution? Did the Constitution speak to the enslavement of whites and other races?

HughBe--- It must be otherwise the US would NOT mingle in the INTERNAL affairs of Uganda.

Former---Perhaps it is the pain meds talking from down there.

HughBe--- No dear, it is an observation of reality.

Former---What the hell are you talking about? Do you know?

HughBe--- I am talking about the HELLISH behaviour called homosexuality and its champion the US.

Former----Please educate me, with sources/links. Thank you in advance, my damaged friend.

HughBe---- My blind friend, it is my hope that you shall regain your sight before it is too late. Here is a start to recovering of your sight.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/us-send-sc ...
This is called human rights or civil rights.

Former---I would think as a person of shiny color you would appreciate the rights of minorities being protected and upheld.

HughBe--- Indeed I am a minority in INTELLIGENCE, CHARACTER and INTEGRITY but as a non-white person I am in the MAJORITY in the world and in Jamaica.

Former---Would you like a cross burned on your front lawn?

HughBe--- Which MONGREL could do that and get away with it?

Former---The US has a long history of pushing for human rights around the world.

HughBe--- I look forward to them pushing for the RIGHT to RELIGIOUS FREEDOM in all countries starting with their FRIENDS who they can talk with and influence.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#70338 Mar 27, 2014
HughBe--- Naturally, I needed the sympathies as I have no other source to get it.

Joel---You have a loving family and a huge church congregation, right?

So, why rely on these unintelligent, sub-human types who post here for kindness ?

What do you mean by "kindness"?

Superficial politeness or polite inquiries about your health/well being?

If this is what you mean by kindness then you will always get fooled by the riff raff with who you keep arguing with over silly topics.....

HughBe--- It was sarcasm.

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#70339 Mar 27, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles---I get that your bible thumping precludes you from understanding that gay rights is an equality issue.
HughB--- Why are you anti-Moses and the Tanach, you non "bible thumping" religious person?
Why do you make assertions and accusations that make no sense?

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#70340 Mar 27, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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You asserted a connection between pop Tantra and the Torah. I asked you elaborate.
Pop Tantra?

There's nothing like Pop Tantra.

There's right-handed (spiritual) Tantra and left-handed Tantra (sensual/negative) Tantra.

The negative aspect of Tantra and teachings of Torah are barbaric involving murder, blood sacrifice, threats, abuse, curses etc. Both are forms of sorcery. Nothing refined or spiritual or profound about left-handed Tantra and Torah.

Didn't you know this ordinary thing?

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#70341 Mar 27, 2014
Left-handed Tantra is called vaamachaari Tantra.

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#70342 Mar 27, 2014
The dynamic descent of the force of the higher consciousness from the planes that lie above the head has unsettled my nervous system as the descent is too powerful. I am finding it difficult to endure it. I am aglow and am experiencing many subtle phenomena with light, sound and heat being the manifestations. The force has descended all the way to the abdominal region and is vibrating my entire being/body. Need to assimilate the force. I am swaying. it's a powerful yogic experience. I can barely keep my eyes open as the force is causing my eyes to upturn like in deep trance. Bye. Later.
former res

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#70343 Mar 27, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- My memory tells me that the substance in his blood should not have been at the level it was based on its half-life. It was a long time ago but that is what my memory tells me. I believe it was some preservative.
Former---There was a trail of his blood from the crime scene to his truck to his bedroom.
Guilty.
HughBe--- Intelligent of you. I take it that a trail of blood from point x via the road to your house miles away means that you are responsible for it.
More than likely.

I think nowadays, with cameras everywhere and advanced forensic science, it would be hard to get away with a crime. Maybe in Jamaica but not here.

So be careful when you drug Frijoles and drag him to church.

Have you ever been bitten by a snake while at church?

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