Letters: "Don't ask, don't tell" not about civil rights

There are 29 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Dec 21, 2010, titled Letters: "Don't ask, don't tell" not about civil rights. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

Legislation repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy has turned the U.S. military into a new front for social and cultural experimentation.

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“Quality is always an accident”

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#22 Dec 23, 2010
peterpun wrote:
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Well, I was just wondering. I guess you just proved it.
"Proved it?" Now Grampy, how would a 14 year old know about the term "short arm inspection"? That term isn't even used anymore. It was used when your generation were lining up to serve our country. Long before this gay thing cropped up. In fact, they didn't even ask if you were gay back then. This phenomena is a relatively new with the proliferation of males born East of Eden. Probably had something to do with that new fangled contraption called "television".
Sal Pal

Carmel, CA

#23 Dec 23, 2010
"In other words, Thune was willing to block legislation to help first responders in 9/11 and to urge passage of tax cuts for the wealthy. Of course, Thune was not alone. All 41 Republican senators voted to block the legislation. That says volumes about the value system and priorities of Republicans."

The value system of Republicans is not tied to a title of a bill. It's tied to the specifics of the bill.

It's important to get the details right. This is a complex issue.

Republicans will scrutinize the details of bills, and actually read them rather than rely on good sounding titles and associated descriptions that only show the up side.
john r

Wyandotte, MI

#24 Dec 24, 2010
interesting this denigating attitude about homosexuality. how is it that it is destructive to society? homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, attorney, counselor, teacher, administrator, soldier, pastor, brother, neighbor,etc.

homosexuals bond in the same ways as heterosexuals out of mutual love, affection, devotion, trust, respect for a shared committed life together.
the legal gay marriages of massachussetts have not descended into the 50% heterosexual divorce rate of those heterosexual marriages that were performed at the same time.

homosexual marriages provide loving nurturing homes for raising children as do heterosexuals which has been made evident by their offering their homes for foster care or adoption to rejected and abandoned children of heterosexual unions.
Josh

Salinas, CA

#25 Dec 24, 2010
john r wrote:
interesting this denigating attitude about homosexuality. how is it that it is destructive to society? homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, attorney, counselor, teacher, administrator, soldier, pastor, brother, neighbor,etc.
homosexuals bond in the same ways as heterosexuals out of mutual love, affection, devotion, trust, respect for a shared committed life together.
the legal gay marriages of massachussetts have not descended into the 50% heterosexual divorce rate of those heterosexual marriages that were performed at the same time.
homosexual marriages provide loving nurturing homes for raising children as do heterosexuals which has been made evident by their offering their homes for foster care or adoption to rejected and abandoned children of heterosexual unions.
Really? Look at pics from a "gay pride" parade. Then you'll see why people have concerns.

“Post-religious”

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#26 Dec 24, 2010
Josh wrote:
<quoted text> Really? Look at pics from a "gay pride" parade. Then you'll see why people have concerns.
Can we put them side-by-side with pics from mardi gras or carnival parades, or from any of the dozens of girls- or guys-gone-wild videos?

"People have concerns." (Serious face).

“Quality is always an accident”

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#27 Dec 24, 2010
Jerald wrote:
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Can we put them side-by-side with pics from mardi gras or carnival parades, or from any of the dozens of girls- or guys-gone-wild videos?
"People have concerns." (Serious face).
I gave you the judgeee things because it was a great response. I think the "Girls gone wild" was a litle bit overdone. You don't see "Boys Gone Wild" with the hugging and holding hands. But, you made a valid point. Parades have nothing to do with this issue. As you can see by my post tally, I'm not new to Topix. And, it's very rare that I get a slap in the face hard enough to prompt me into a response like this. I don't like the concept of same sex marriage, but it's not the end of the world. Happy Holidays.

“Post-religious”

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#28 Dec 24, 2010
Ize Lost wrote:
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I gave you the judgeee things because it was a great response. I think the "Girls gone wild" was a litle bit overdone. You don't see "Boys Gone Wild" with the hugging and holding hands. But, you made a valid point. Parades have nothing to do with this issue. As you can see by my post tally, I'm not new to Topix. And, it's very rare that I get a slap in the face hard enough to prompt me into a response like this. I don't like the concept of same sex marriage, but it's not the end of the world. Happy Holidays.
Thanks for the kudos.(I included the "Girls" and "Guys Gone Wild" reference because they are typically shot in public places, which presumably is the objection of the poster who mentioned Gay Pride Parades.)

I, too, don't think that recognizing the right of same-sex couples to obtain a civil marriage will lead to the end of the world (there is no such legal notion as "gay marriage" or "same-sex marriage," just civil marriage). I haven't seen any evidence to support such a claim.

Indeed, I believe that the argument that recognizing civil marriage for same-sex couples is actually the conservative thing to do.

"The conservative course is not to banish gay people from making such commitments. It is to expect that they make such commitments. We shouldn't just allow gay marriage. We should insist on gay marriage. We should regard it as scandalous that two people could claim to love each other and not want to sanctify their love with marriage and fidelity."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/22/opinion/the...

You, too, have an enjoyable holiday.
I approve this comment

Salinas, CA

#29 Dec 26, 2010
Jerald wrote:
This spam letter from the fictional "Larry Smith" appeared in at least two dozen newspapers all across the nation between Dec. 20-22, using the same name but with the hometown of the paper.
Best as I can tell, it's from a website called "catholic online" by a person calling himself "Deacon Keith Fournier."
There certainly is an "anti-gay agenda," and it manifests itself in spam scams like this one. Dozens of newspapers fell for it, including my hometown paper, The Sacramento Bee.
Thank you for your information. I just figured that "Larry Smith" was not well educated, had never served and is in the closet.
JdW

Monterey, CA

#30 Jan 7, 2011
Josh wrote:
<quoted text> Really? Look at pics from a "gay pride" parade. Then you'll see why people have concerns.
I can show you just as many (probably more) photos from parades like Mardi Gras and the Love Parade - all overwhelmingly straight people behaving badly.

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