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Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#41 Dec 1, 2010
unknown wrote:
They havent released her name as of yet. I know it was a 21 yr old white female. She sustained massive head injuries.
My name is Jennifer Kriseman, I am Amanda Kingbury's mother. She was an amazing and beautiful young lady.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#42 Dec 1, 2010
Amanda Kingsbury was an amazing young woman. She always had a smile for everyone...including strangers. She had a smile that made the stars look dim. She was one of a kind, but most important....she was my baby and will forever be missed.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#43 Dec 1, 2010
anonymous wrote:
Everyone please take the time to remember that regardless of fault at LEAST three families were greatly affected on this night and compassion should be considered for ALL. All these lives will be changed forever and unfortunately a life was lost. Respect should be shown during this sensitive time. Knowing the Hoofman's this is their sentiment exactly and their hearts go out to the young girl's family that lost her to soon.
I am her mother. Thank you for your kind words. My heart goes out to all involved. she is missed greatly. You would of loved her if you had the chance to meet her.
troubleshooter

North Little Rock, AR

#44 Dec 1, 2010
Jennifer Kriseman wrote:
<quoted text> My name is Jennifer Kriseman, I am Amanda Kingbury's mother. She was an amazing and beautiful young lady.
Deeply sorry for your loss. I was a by passer on that night and I just couldn't get outta my mind how sorrowful the familes would be after that night. I hope there is some kind of possitive that can come out of this terrible loss.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#45 Dec 14, 2010
I hear that alot trouble shooter. I hope the same myself. It is a loss that is overwhelming at times, well quite often. You never expect to bury your child. It is am eye opener. It makes you appreciate everyday of life that you are given. Always, leave on a good note with loved ones'a and friends. You NEVER know if that is the last time you ever see them or speak with them again.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#46 Dec 14, 2010
her friend wrote:
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YOU ARE A BAD PERSON TO BE SO FULL OF HATE IN YOUR SOUL. I responded to you above...
You will regret ever saying these things you hate monger. Amanda never hated anyone or anything. You wouldve learned something from her, as I can see she was a better person than you will ever aspire to be
I have to agree tha drinking and driving is a very bad thing and I am sure that you yourself has NEVER made a mistake. I as the young womans mother that was killed in this accident do find your comments very insulting. We do not wasnt your sympanthy by any means. I am glad the your friend was not hurt. I will forever be changed by the death of my daughter. One thing though, remember your comments when something bad happens to you or some one you love. NO ONES perfect.

Thank you for your words about my daughter anomomys friend. Thank you for being her voice when she can not.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#47 Dec 14, 2010
Trouble Shooter wrote:
As I stood at the Arby's last night all I could think of was the family of the young girl. I lost me own brother at the age of 21 due to a car accident years ago. I still recall the cold and rainy night when were told the news, I remember the pain and the anquish. I came home and got down on my knees and prayed for the family of the girl who was lost. I certainly hope that during this time they are comforted in some way. I don't know the girl and I don't know the guy who was taken into custody but I saw anquish on his face as well. There are no excuses for driving drunk, if indeed that is what has happened here but the young man's life whether free or otherwise will never, ever be free again.
Dear Trouble shooter,
I am amanda's mother. You are correct, we were in toatl and complete shock. It is a pain that I wish on Know one even the horrible people anf their comments about my daughter. They are very lucky that Jesus does not judge as they do. To the sgt. that refered to the young adults as the name you did. You are in my prayer. As far as the coroner report it will not be ready for quite a while. I am still waiting on that. For everyone's prayers, I thank you. For everyone else and your comments. Until you go through it "Shut the hell up and be thankful it wasn't your child"!

Since: Oct 10

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#48 Dec 14, 2010
JonTobi wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps that "Something Good" could be for us all to remember, particularly with the approaching holiday season, drunk driving is a CRIME. If you're going to drive don't drink. If you do drink don't drive.
please keep christmas meery and bright

Since: Sep 10

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#49 Dec 14, 2010
Sgt Breaux wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for pointing out the severity of the crime of drunk driving. It is never predictable who will pay the ultimate price - the guilty or the innocent - but it is always regrettable when a life is lost or maimed. My condolences to the Hoffman family and to those who morn.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and kindness.
Jennifer Kriseman

North Charleston, SC

#50 Dec 17, 2010
troubleshooter wrote:
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Deeply sorry for your loss. I was a by passer on that night and I just couldn't get outta my mind how sorrowful the familes would be after that night. I hope there is some kind of possitive that can come out of this terrible loss.
Dear Trouble shooter
I was curious about one thing that you had mentioned. You said you were a passer by that night. You had also asked about the man driving the Dodge. For personal reasons, I would like to ask you if you saw the yooung man behind the wheel that evening???
Mark IV

La France, SC

#51 Dec 17, 2010
SAW wrote:
FYI...the guy was not driving , the girl was driving. It really does not matter who may have been driving. A young girl has been taken. Do you people have any kind of compassion? Instead of speculating and trying to come up with "water cooler" conversation, do your research. Better yet just continue to pray for all parties involved.
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Amanda *was not* driving, and yes, it does matter who was. She was much younger than the driver, and supposedly in his care. He exercised "undue diligence" and is responsible for her wrongful death. The driver is a "player" and a "party-boy", who upon gaining his senses after the rollover, was unhurt and quick-thinking enough to lie and say he wasn't driving, so as to avoid prosecution. As far as Amanda is concerned...well...she was pretty close to being an angel on earth. Poor child is the victim here.
Mark IV

La France, SC

#52 Dec 17, 2010
With all due respect, I must point out that both Amanda and the driver were victims here. Yes, he, for making a big mistake, but who really contributed to making this all occur. Let's see what the law has to say about it:

Arkansas code annotated 16-126-104 states:

Civil liability for sale of alcohol to clearly intoxicated person.

"In cases where it has been proven that an alcoholic beverage retailer knowingly sold alcoholic beverages to a person who was clearly intoxicated at the time of such sale or sold under circumstances where the retailer reasonably should have known the person was clearly intoxicated at the time of the sale, a civil jury may determine whether or not the sale constitutes a proximate cause of any subsequent injury to other persons. For purposes of this section, a person is considered clearly intoxicated when the person is so obviously intoxicated to the extent that, at the time of such sale, he presents a clear danger to others. It shall be an affirmative defense to civil liability under this section that an alcoholic beverage retailer had a reasonable belief that the person was not clearly intoxicated at the time of such sale or that the person would not be operating a motor vehicle while in the impaired state."

IN OTHER WORDS... BARS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER.

I mean really, who could argue that after giving someone several shots of hard liquor, that you could expect them to make proper and wise decisions? ARE DRUNK PEOPLE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO?(Uh, the correct answer is HELL NO).

Yes, I know...you want to blame the intoxicated person for what happened sometimes. If that is your opinion, then do the following:

1. Drink a shot of liquor. Then, if it felt kinda good...and the bartender asks to bring you another, then shoot down another. Wait 5 minutes. Now the bartender will ask to bring you another, after all, they're making money off you.

2. Now you've had 2 shots of liquor go to your brain. But maybe the next drink is "on the house", so...why not? Drink it too.

3. Now you've had 3 shots of liquor. YES, TRY THIS AT HOME! Are you feeling like superman yet? How's your decision process coming along? Feeling good, yes? Well then...

4. The bartender's back with a smile. Ready for another? Of course you are! Nothing to worry about now. Bartender will keep them coming until you're out of money.

5. What's that? You're drunk as hell? No problem. What's that? YOU'RE OUT OF MONEY??? Well then, there's the door. Have a safe trip, "friend".

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Mark IV
Trouble shooter

Hot Springs National Park, AR

#53 Dec 17, 2010
Jennifer Kriseman wrote:
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Dear Trouble shooter
I was curious about one thing that you had mentioned. You said you were a passer by that night. You had also asked about the man driving the Dodge. For personal reasons, I would like to ask you if you saw the yooung man behind the wheel that evening???
No I did not, I came by the scene after the fact. I happened to be by the Arbys most likely 10-20 mins after the accident had happened. All I saw was the Guy being taken away by the police and the truck overturned in the ditch in front of the Daily citizen. At that time I was told the girl had been driving by those who were by standers.
Mark IV

Anderson, SC

#54 Dec 17, 2010
Trouble shooter wrote:
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No I did not, I came by the scene after the fact. I happened to be by the Arbys most likely 10-20 mins after the accident had happened. All I saw was the Guy being taken away by the police and the truck overturned in the ditch in front of the Daily citizen. At that time I was told the girl had been driving by those who were by standers.
Without an eye witness to see who was driving, it would be like a chain of repetition...each telling another what they'd heard. Problem with that process is, if the first link or two in the chain heard erroneous information, then all you've got is a bunch of people parroting the original mis-information.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#55 Dec 28, 2010
JonTobi wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps that "Something Good" could be for us all to remember, particularly with the approaching holiday season, drunk driving is a CRIME. If you're going to drive don't drink. If you do drink don't drive.
Volunteer to be a designated driver COULD SAVE A LIFE
Trouble shooter

United States

#56 Dec 28, 2010
Mark IV wrote:
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Without an eye witness to see who was driving, it would be like a chain of repetition...each telling another what they'd heard. Problem with that process is, if the first link or two in the chain heard erroneous information, then all you've got is a bunch of people parroting the original mis-information.
Agreed! I never take as first hand accounts of the actual events from 2nd and 3rd hand information.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#58 Dec 31, 2010
JonTobi wrote:
Drinking and driving is the conclusive premeditation of murder.
If you drive don't drink. If you drink don't drive. Live to see 2011. Happy New Year.

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