Prove god exist

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#128 Jun 18, 2012
My God is an Awesome God wrote:
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Who says it's a book of myths?
A lot of people. Mostly the ones who have actually read it and given it some thought.
My God is an Awesome God wrote:
<quoted text> A lot of people happen to know and believe that it is 100% real whether anyone else believes that or not.
There is your problem. You use the words "know" and "believe" as if they mean the same thing. They don't.
My God is an Awesome God wrote:
<quoted text> And no it isn't silly science. That's just what you say to make up an excuse.
No, honey... that was sarcasm.
It's what fundie Christians call science when THEY want to make up an excuse for biblical claims that make no sense.

(Fundie: "Oh, don't pay any attention to that silly science that says the sun can't have "stood still" in the sky. Yahweh can do that if he wants to.")
^^^sarcasm^^^
Old Army

Vilonia, AR

#129 Jun 18, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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My, my.... talk about "thin-skinned."
I've noticed that people who can't think clearly and communicate effectively often resort to vulgarity in their flustration.
Would you care to point out the "lie?"
Didn't think so.....
Happy to point out your fkn lie. You said that people that you lump together as Christians/fundamentalists want to turn this country into a theocracy. That's evidence of your frustration, not mine.
Old Army

Vilonia, AR

#130 Jun 18, 2012
Don wrote:
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Then I suspect you're a shut-in.
Nope, I'm not a shut-in nor do I live under a rock. I've spent time in 45 states and 15 foreign countries. Just as I said, the media you pointed out that tries to "shove Christianity down ones throat" is very rare. You are the one that is trying to shove your beliefs on someone else.
Jeffy

Cabot, AR

#131 Jun 18, 2012
Most people with a high degree of intelligence are adept at reasoning. Such people feel the need to familiarize themselves with a topic before they accept a pertinent concept as factual. Context is important.

Take the Christian bible for instance. Many religious people are inspired by some of the more poetic quotes found in the gospels, but very few of them have actually read through all the chapters (much less taking a critical view of the content they're reading). If they knew everything God has done as an omnipotent being without attempting to justify it in their minds, they would be disillusioned. According to the various accounts within the Bible, God has killed thousands upon thousands of innocent people for the actions of a select few. Exodus stands as a prime example, where God unleashes several plagues on the Egyptian people - eventually killing every first born child in the land. Then there's Sodom and Gomorrah, two cities suffering from what we today would call a high crime rate. They were completely destroyed by God's wrath.

Anyone who still tries to convince themselves that God is benevolent in spite of these acts ought to consider his approach to ethics as if it were employed by a human being. Is there any justification for killing innocent people? Was Hitler's mass extermination of the Jews (among many others) during the Holocaust justified by his goal of creating a pure Aryan world with no discrimination or ethnic hatred? Were Stalin's Great Purges and the Holodomor justified by his desire to create a classless, utopian society? As I see it, if we wish to accept the concept of morality as objective, then we ought to condemn every leader who commits such broad injustices regardless of whether their ideology is similar to ours.

Beyond that, nobody has yet to substantiate any scientific evidence to verify the existence of paranormal phenomena. Things that have been described as "miracles" could just as easily be deemed favourable circumstances, and nothing more. Every testimony in any religious book you can name came from a time when humanity was less developed and thus more willing to accept illogical beliefs as reality. Several advancements have completely disproven the accepted creation theories within any religion - the discovery of fossilized dinosaur bones, astronomical discoveries which confirm that Earth is not the center of the universe, etc. It is therefore unreasonable to use theology as an explanation for nature, especially now that there is no longer a complete absence of genuine knowledge.
Old Army

Vilonia, AR

#132 Jun 18, 2012
What is your point, Jeffy, What are you trying to prove?
Don

Marble Falls, TX

#133 Jun 19, 2012
Old Army wrote:
Just as I said, the media you pointed out that tries to "shove Christianity down ones throat" is very rare.
Then you're not very observant. Really, this isn't very difficult to see if you aren't wearing blinders. You're choosing not to see it.
Old Army wrote:
You are the one that is trying to shove your beliefs on someone else.
I haven't even stated my "beliefs", whatever those are, so you're wrong again. I've asked you believers here to provide evidence for your claims. But all I get is a suggestion to read the bible,(which is a joke), or some personal anecdote that can't be proved and can't be discerned from an hallucination or an outright lie.

“NSA”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#134 Jun 19, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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***chuckle***
I just have a hard time taking anyone seriously who spells "you" as "u," "your" as "ur," (and then "your" instead of "you're")can't use "their/there" correctly... and says "PROLLY."
Maybe I'll get back to you later....
Auto finish on my phone does most errors, but some are mine. I dont bother with fixing them i i assume people know its an error but one that doesnt make it unreadable, But just state the truth you just wish not to tangle with someone that has more to offer that a scripture quote, your logic is flawed. I bet if I was on here saying god is real and quoting scriptures, regardless of how shotty my posts was, you would be replying and debating.
Thanks for showing everyone though you're a gutless debater that doesn't bring nothing to the table past insults and scripture quoting. Ive prove this a lil ooops I mean a "little" while ago. I made a thread called "what has an atheist done for lately"
Only rule was there is no bible script quoting, well let's just say they really didn't have much to offer!!
Failed horribly as expected!! Your reply here is another proof to that, so continue on with the easy breezy none stimulative scripture slinging that by obvious, is the only thing you can offer.
Old Army

Vilonia, AR

#135 Jun 19, 2012
Don wrote:
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Then you're not very observant. Really, this isn't very difficult to see if you aren't wearing blinders. You're choosing not to see it.
<quoted text>
I haven't even stated my "beliefs", whatever those are, so you're wrong again. I've asked you believers here to provide evidence for your claims. But all I get is a suggestion to read the bible,(which is a joke), or some personal anecdote that can't be proved and can't be discerned from an hallucination or an outright lie.
What am I choosing not to see?
Okay, we don't know what your "beliefs" are. Why does it bother you that most people do have a belief system.
I don't care if you read the Bible or not.
I've given you no personal anecdotes about my belief.

“NSA”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#136 Jun 19, 2012
I agree old army!! I don't give a sht what his beliefs are , and don't under stand why he or others care about other peoples belief!! It is freedom of beliefs in this country right? Not pick a belief and then explain it so others can justify it or not!!
Don

Marble Falls, TX

#137 Jun 19, 2012
Old Army wrote:
What am I choosing not to see?
Okay, we don't know what your "beliefs" are. Why does it bother you that most people do have a belief system.
I don't care if you read the Bible or not.
I've given you no personal anecdotes about my belief.
I'll stop caring what superstition others believe when they can no longer use those beliefs to influence the laws the rest of us have to obey. What really tweaks your melon is that people like me won't lay down and surrender to what would amount to right-wing religious tyranny if it wasn't opposed.
lovenhate

Cabot, AR

#138 Jun 19, 2012
How can some people say the bible is word for word truth we have all seen these nut jobs! How many times does your true book say the world is flat lmao it even talks about witches lmfao so hmmmmm its BS!
wondering

Trumann, AR

#139 Jun 19, 2012
Got the answer you need to hear , the ONLY WAY I KNOW ONE CAN KNOW GOD IS.
Gods word challanges you to read .
One thing is for sure , if the words of the New Testament Word of God fails to convert you , then and only then .(for if a believer could raise the dead from the grave , it would not covert one, only the word is the Power of God to Savation !
The word is to be sharper than a 2 edge sword !
The word if from where FAITH comes !(faith comes from hearing the Word of God 'says the Bilbe".
Nor i , or any other can have to authority , power to convert you ! it will be the Bible WOrd of GOd that will " convert you or fail to do so " . I challange you to ask for a New Testament and being to read it . Then you can know for certain.
I woudl hope you not to be scared to do so .
Missunderstood

Searcy, AR

#140 Jun 19, 2012
Don wrote:
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We know that christianity must be true because the Gospel writers were inspired by God "who can make no error". So, on the first Easter morning, the visitors to the tomb were greeted by which of the following:
1. A young man (Mark 16:5)
2. No, no, it was no man, it was an angel (Matthew 28:2-5)
3. Both wrong, it was two men (Luke 24:4)
4. Oh snap, there was nobody there (John 20:1-2)
I think if you had any knowledge of the Bible at all you would know that each of these books, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were written by different people. The Bible clearly tells us that we, humans, are not perfect. God did not make an error. The four men who wrote these books saw this event happen with there own eyes and wrote down what they thought was important. If you would read further into Luke and John you would see that there was, indeed, an angel clothed in white there, and in Mark it was a young man clothed in white who could have been mistaken for an ordinary person.
In Luke, verses 4 and 5 say "and it happened, as they were greatly perplexed about this, that behold, two men stood by them in shining garments. Then, as they were afraid and bowed their faces to the earth..." Throughout the Bible, when an ordinary person sees an angel it says that they were afraid. So, this shows us that the two men were angels.
In John, verses 11 and 12 say "But Mary stood outside by the tomb weeping, and as she wept she stooped down and looked into the tomb and she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the head and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain."
Because Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were written by 4 different men and these 4 different men had different writing styles, details are not always in the same place. Sometimes you have to read further in one book to read the same thing that you read right off the bat in another.
I am not trying to prove that there is a God. I believe that there is one but that is what I believe. I just wish that if you would start something like this and argue with people who have studied the Bible and believe that there is a God, that you yourself would study the Bible a little more. You might be surprised by what you find.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#141 Jun 19, 2012
wondering wrote:
Got the answer you need to hear , the ONLY WAY I KNOW ONE CAN KNOW GOD IS.
Gods word challanges you to read .
One thing is for sure , if the words of the New Testament Word of God fails to convert you , then and only then .(for if a believer could raise the dead from the grave , it would not covert one, only the word is the Power of God to Savation !
The word is to be sharper than a 2 edge sword !
The word if from where FAITH comes !(faith comes from hearing the Word of God 'says the Bilbe".
Nor i , or any other can have to authority , power to convert you ! it will be the Bible WOrd of GOd that will " convert you or fail to do so " . I challange you to ask for a New Testament and being to read it . Then you can know for certain.
I woudl hope you not to be scared to do so .
Why do Christians ASSume that atheists haven't read the bible?
We have read and studied it, considered it, and concluded that it is simply a collection of the myths men created.

Have you read the Qur'an, the Torah, the Bhagavad Gita, the Tao te Ching, the Gnostic texts, or the Vedas?
Or do you just ASSume that the bible is the "word of Yahweh" simply because the bible says it is?(An example of circular reasoning at its finest.)
lovenhate

Cabot, AR

#142 Jun 19, 2012
wondering wrote:
Got the answer you need to hear , the ONLY WAY I KNOW ONE CAN KNOW GOD IS.
Gods word challanges you to read .
One thing is for sure , if the words of the New Testament Word of God fails to convert you , then and only then .(for if a believer could raise the dead from the grave , it would not covert one, only the word is the Power of God to Savation !
The word is to be sharper than a 2 edge sword !
The word if from where FAITH comes !(faith comes from hearing the Word of God 'says the Bilbe".
Nor i , or any other can have to authority , power to convert you ! it will be the Bible WOrd of GOd that will " convert you or fail to do so " . I challange you to ask for a New Testament and being to read it . Then you can know for certain.
I woudl hope you not to be scared to do so .
.... The new testament is not god it actually changes everything god stands for even changes his day of worship if you want to know god that would be te old testament. And if your one of those extra slow people that think god a jesus are the same read the new testament where jesus keeps having to ask his father lmfao what to do.
One day

Searcy, AR

#143 Jun 19, 2012
Don wrote:
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Note, kiddies, how it always boils down to..."Believe, or Suffer". In other word, "Buy into my superstitious bullshit or Jesus is going to hurt you!"
How freakin' pathetic.
You know who you remind me of? Saul.
Saul was a man in the Bible that hated Christians. He thought that it was pathetic if one believed in an almighty God. Saul made a living out of killing Christians. Until one day he finally saw it. He saw God come down and ask him why he didn't believe. He asked why he was killing his people. It took Saul seeing God to believe that he did, indeed, exsist. Unfortunatly, God does not come down from the clouds anymore but the Holy Spirit does move in people. and I already know what your going to say. "the holy spirit? what a bunch of bull!" Well, you feel the wind every day; right? You feel it on your body and you feel in run through your hair. The Holy Spirit is like that for those of us who believe. The Holy Spirit lives in me and there is no amount of arguing on your part or anyone else that will make me not believe that there is a God. One day I hope that you see what we christians are trying to tell you. That there is a God and he loves us no matter what we do, and by us I do not mean just christians. He loves you. He loves you so much and it breaks his heart that you do not love him back.
HatenLove

Cabot, AR

#144 Jun 19, 2012
t really confuses me that in an information age like today, people still wake up at 9 a.m. to go listen to a priest read them fairy tales. Why don’t parents spend that time instead by taking their children to the park or reading them a book?

Instead of teaching your children fairy tales about boogeymen who live under the Earth, waiting for the chance to claim your soul unless you live according to a set of a fake rules, take them to a museum.

One last thing, the apostles couldn’t read? Jesus Christ. Maybe instead of curing the old man of his blindness you could’ve taught Paul to read a fing book, Jesus.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#145 Jun 19, 2012
Old Army wrote:
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Happy to point out your fkn lie. You said that people that you lump together as Christians/fundamentalists want to turn this country into a theocracy. That's evidence of your frustration, not mine.
Did you read the link I posted about the "Good News Club" and the "Children's Evangelism Fellowship?"
This is only one of MANY attempts of Fundamentalist Christians to get their religious superstition taught in public schools.
By brainwashing children who are too young to know what is being done to them, they can raise a generation of mindless believers who will do as their church leaders tell them.
Nothing would make FCs more pleased than making bible study mandatory in elementary and middle schools.
Nothing would make them happier than having everyone believing as they do.
Making this a "god-fearing" country with a "good Christian" leader is their goal.
I don't have to make this stuff up.
Just ask .... they will tell you.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#146 Jun 19, 2012
One day wrote:
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Unfortunatly, God does not come down from the clouds anymore
Why do you think that is?

“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
One day

Searcy, AR

#147 Jun 19, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Why do you think that is?
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
I think that God does not come down from Heaven because that is what it says in the bible. I believe what the Bible says and it doesn't matter how many people tell me that it is "horribly flawed" or a book written by "unintelligent" peopel, I will always choose to believe in the Bible just like some choose not to believe.

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