City Council Considers Barnyarding of...

City Council Considers Barnyarding of Long Beach

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Mr Haney

Van Nuys, CA

#1 Dec 1, 2012
(Nov. 28, 2012, 6:45 a.m.)-- As carried LIVE on LBREPORT.com 's front page [the only place it could be viewed LIVE], the City Council's Environmental Committee (chair, Lowenthal, vice chair, O'Donnell, member Johnson) voted 3-0 to direct city staff to have a draft ordinance on loosening rules for keeping chickens, goats and bees prepared for Committee discussion and public input in the 1st quarter of 2013.
The Committee action was precipitated by city staff's acknowledgment that it didn't have a draft ordinance ready to discuss. Development Services Dir. Amy Bodek indicated staff was preparing a survey on which residents could provide input that Ms. Bodek indicated could help guide staff's preparation of a draft ordinance.
In a polite but firm tone, Councilman Johnson expressed displeasure at not having a draft ordinance ready to discuss, which he said was the Committee's previous direction to city staff in June...and Johnson pointedly made the same motion he'd made in June, seconded (as it was in June) by Councilwoman/Committee chair Lowenthal, to have staff return with a draft ordinance for discussion.
Public testimony followed. Unlike the June Committee meeting, no speakers spoke in opposition; several speakers (as in June) spoke in favor...and also voiced displeasure at continued delays. Among the public speakers were several backyard beekeepers, who cited the benefits of bees and dowplayed public fears of bees...
In another brief colloquy invited by Committee chair Lowenthal, LB Animal Care Services (animal control) indicated that a change that would bring more animals into Long Beach would mean additional calls for various services [the exchange comes near end of the Committee meeting].
And there's been some initial overnight reaction from Councilwoman Gerrie Schipske, who writes on Facebook: "I like requiring residents to get the written permission of their neighbors before being allowed to have chickens in the backyard. That will stop alot of complaints if Long Beach allows."
http://www.lbreport.com/news/nov12/urbfarm2.h...
deport gerrie

Van Nuys, CA

#2 Dec 2, 2012
"Councilwoman Gerrie Schipske, who writes on Facebook: "I like requiring residents to get the written permission of their neighbors before being allowed to have chickens in the backyard. That will stop alot of complaints if Long Beach allows."

Great idea, Gerrie!

Let's get, say, house renters arguing with actual homeowners next door to them as to why the homeowners don't want the renters keeping chickens or goats in their back yard!

We'll pit the people with nothing really to lose against those actually paying mortgages, who have to stay put, and deal with your abstract reasoning.

Homeowner or not, what if the chicken-keepers bring in chickens anyway, despite not getting "permission?" What happens when their neighbor turns them in? What if the chicken-keeper decides to harbor a grudge? What a NICE neighborhood Gerrie has in store for homeowners.

Way to turn a quiet neighborhood into a battle-ground for mini-class wars, Gerrie!

Creating mini-class wars is what middle-class neighborhoods are for! Right, Gerrie? That's why we send section 8'ers there, instead of forcing them into apartments in Naples, and Belmont Heights!

Let the middle-class deal with the outcome of the fantasy world of Gerrie Shipske, who would like to take us back to Walton's Mountain, where the livin' was simpler.
Morris the Cat

Long Beach, CA

#3 Dec 2, 2012
Gerrie is a misguided, bizarre person.
Farmer John

Van Nuys, CA

#4 Dec 2, 2012
You just know animal hoarders are going to have to write additional invites to the party with this...

Headline: Animal Abuse Violations Brought Against Old Lady with 20 Cats, 12 Dogs, 60 Chickens, 3 Goats, and 86,000 Bees.
susie

Van Nuys, CA

#5 Dec 2, 2012
Can we have pot bellied pigs too? I want one! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze???
CSULB Josh

Long Beach, CA

#6 Dec 2, 2012
The is so Third World. LB Dem voters should call City Hall and demand a YES vote on furthering the Party's goal of playing yet another in a the long line of sick jokes on the Democratic voting families in Long Beach.

No one has worse political judgment than LB Dem voters who use their majority to elect Freaks who constantly make Fools of them and degrade their own City.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#7 Dec 2, 2012
Trend setting Haitian Voodoo practitioners are an important component of the dangerous tax eating and taxpayer supported Thug people voting majority that free-spending out-of-control California politicians have drawn into the State for the purpose of increasing their power.

What will happen when high paid capricious agenda driven Government judges side with those practitioners, agreeing with their argument that the slaughtering of goats and chickens and spreading their blood around the neighborhood is a part of the "culture" and religious beliefs of an "oppressed" minority?

Ronald
Sue

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Dec 2, 2012
It's hilarious that the city council is seriously considering the "opinions" of bee keepers calling for a law allowing amateurs to keep bees, since, when things go wrong, the professional beekeepers will be called to clean up the problem, and charge a hefty price to do it.

Of COURSE they'll be pushing for it!
anthropologist

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Dec 3, 2012
How many African and Caribbean immigrants are in Long Beach? That should be a significant concern, as the sacrifice of chickens and goats is fundamental to their religious beliefs. Denying it's followers the opportunity for animal sacrifice is like denying a christian his right to pray, yet allowing little churches to be built in his backyards.

"Diversity" makes for strange bedfellows, and the "organic farmer" types have to consider the religion of other people, and what that means for folks who may be living next door to those practicing west African religions, and don't subscribe to hearing the death throes of a goat getting it's throat cut, and bleeding out at 1 in the morning.
in the news

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Dec 3, 2012
"Voodoo followers - who make up some 40% of Benin's population - believe that all life is driven by spiritual forces of natural phenomena such as water, fire, earth and air, and that these should be honoured through rituals like animal sacrifices."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-205503...

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#11 Dec 3, 2012
How about a herd of goats?
tony

Long Beach, CA

#12 Dec 3, 2012
Wilbur T Falk

Long Beach, CA

#13 Dec 8, 2012
Excellent idea, but the clowncil shouldn't stop there. Additional ordinances are needed to allow an unlimited amount of animals at every residence. Pigs, cows, horses, chickens, goats, burros, peacocks, rattlesnakes, even opossums and skunks should be allowed. And, with that many animals to tend, the number of families living in one residence should be raised from the present one-family rule to unlimited. Another suggestion is to remove the pavement from the streets so that the unlimited families can do some farming there. Being Long Beach, the street farms will be watered by recycled sewage water piped directly from each residence. Viva Long Beach. God help us all.
YKW

Long Beach, CA

#14 Dec 13, 2012
Wilbur T Falk wrote:
Excellent idea, but the clowncil shouldn't stop there. Additional ordinances are needed to allow an unlimited amount of animals at every residence. Pigs, cows, horses, chickens, goats, burros, peacocks, rattlesnakes, even opossums and skunks should be allowed. And, with that many animals to tend, the number of families living in one residence should be raised from the present one-family rule to unlimited. Another suggestion is to remove the pavement from the streets so that the unlimited families can do some farming there. Being Long Beach, the street farms will be watered by recycled sewage water piped directly from each residence. Viva Long Beach. God help us all.
Wilbur T Falk, I get it. Very good...
obvious

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Dec 13, 2012
Wilbur T Falk wrote:
Excellent idea, but the clowncil shouldn't stop there. Additional ordinances are needed to allow an unlimited amount of animals at every residence. Pigs, cows, horses, chickens, goats, burros, peacocks, rattlesnakes, even opossums and skunks should be allowed. And, with that many animals to tend, the number of families living in one residence should be raised from the present one-family rule to unlimited. Another suggestion is to remove the pavement from the streets so that the unlimited families can do some farming there. Being Long Beach, the street farms will be watered by recycled sewage water piped directly from each residence. Viva Long Beach. God help us all.
Nice try, Suja.

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