Conversation about Race

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Patrick J Buchanan

Houston, TX

#1 Jul 25, 2013
BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??
Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.
Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!
I'm for a better America¬Ö
I am
Not racist,
Not violent,
Just not silent anymore.
Stuck

Pasadena, TX

#3 Jul 25, 2013
Yesterday I was screwed over by a white girl that worked in the office of a local dentist - she denied my insurance benefits. After I caught her in a bald faced lie and extortion attempt I had the insurance company contact her directly to straighten things out. She was forced to comply, today I get a bill and she has piled on extra fees that were not in the original treatment plan. She told me to my face if I wanted to get charged the lower rate ( my contracted insurance rates) then she was going to add additional fees to bring it up to be more than their original quote.

Fortunately after contacting the legal department of the insurance company as well as the owners of the dental firm the young uppity white girl may be looking for some new employment.

This is white on mixed race crime that does not show in any crime stats. White people have been screwing people over for years and years and because they make the laws and have for all these years ( or have their cronies like the gun lobby write them ) they get off as not guilty. If white folks want to figure out why America is failing they should go look in the mirror. Jeff Pound and BSC are white are they not, Rick Perry? Mouton? Blame obama and sharpton - horsehockey.
ONE

United States

#4 Jul 25, 2013
Stuck wrote:
Yesterday I was screwed over by a white girl that worked in the office of a local dentist - she denied my insurance benefits. After I caught her in a bald faced lie and extortion attempt I had the insurance company contact her directly to straighten things out. She was forced to comply, today I get a bill and she has piled on extra fees that were not in the original treatment plan. She told me to my face if I wanted to get charged the lower rate ( my contracted insurance rates) then she was going to add additional fees to bring it up to be more than their original quote.
Fortunately after contacting the legal department of the insurance company as well as the owners of the dental firm the young uppity white girl may be looking for some new employment.
This is white on mixed race crime that does not show in any crime stats. White people have been screwing people over for years and years and because they make the laws and have for all these years ( or have their cronies like the gun lobby write them ) they get off as not guilty. If white folks want to figure out why America is failing they should go look in the mirror. Jeff Pound and BSC are white are they not, Rick Perry? Mouton? Blame obama and sharpton - horsehockey.
Lay off the purple drank
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#5 Jul 25, 2013
Stuck wrote:
Yesterday I was screwed over by a white girl that worked in the office of a local dentist - she denied my insurance benefits. After I caught her in a bald faced lie and extortion attempt I had the insurance company contact her directly to straighten things out. She was forced to comply, today I get a bill and she has piled on extra fees that were not in the original treatment plan. She told me to my face if I wanted to get charged the lower rate ( my contracted insurance rates) then she was going to add additional fees to bring it up to be more than their original quote.
Fortunately after contacting the legal department of the insurance company as well as the owners of the dental firm the young uppity white girl may be looking for some new employment.
This is white on mixed race crime that does not show in any crime stats. White people have been screwing people over for years and years and because they make the laws and have for all these years ( or have their cronies like the gun lobby write them ) they get off as not guilty. If white folks want to figure out why America is failing they should go look in the mirror. Jeff Pound and BSC are white are they not, Rick Perry? Mouton? Blame obama and sharpton - horsehockey.
First off. do you think you're special or something?. Medical and Dental professionals are notorious for sticking it to anyone that they can, so
don't feel too special. In fact, I really don't like these people at all and have to be in serious condition before subjecting myself to highway robbery.

Second of all, Obama is playing people like you for a fool. Where there may not have been a real race issue before, there is one now thanks to Obama and
Sharpton stirring things up. There is a real agenda behind keeping people divided.

Third of all, the so-called gun lobby is keeping the Constitution intact. Maybe you don't care about the Constitution but I do. There is more Black on White crime than there is White on Black crime. Don't believe it?. Go look it up.

Since: Jan 09

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#7 Jul 26, 2013
Stuck wrote:
Yesterday I was screwed over by a white girl that worked in the office of a local dentist - she denied my insurance benefits. After I caught her in a bald faced lie and extortion attempt I had the insurance company contact her directly to straighten things out. She was forced to comply, today I get a bill and she has piled on extra fees that were not in the original treatment plan. She told me to my face if I wanted to get charged the lower rate ( my contracted insurance rates) then she was going to add additional fees to bring it up to be more than their original quote.
Fortunately after contacting the legal department of the insurance company as well as the owners of the dental firm the young uppity white girl may be looking for some new employment.
This is white on mixed race crime that does not show in any crime stats. White people have been screwing people over for years and years and because they make the laws and have for all these years ( or have their cronies like the gun lobby write them ) they get off as not guilty. If white folks want to figure out why America is failing they should go look in the mirror. Jeff Pound and BSC are white are they not, Rick Perry? Mouton? Blame obama and sharpton - horsehockey.
Did you know... that when I was a kid, there were no Black people in Deer Park. Hell, the whole North side of La Porte was called "N-ertown". I grew up on the North Side... but East of the old rail line.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#8 Jul 26, 2013
There was a little bar... it was a Black bar called the Top Hat Lounge that was just down the dirt road and past the railroad tracks from my house near Broadway on Madison.

I spent many Summer days there drinking cokes and playing pool.

My grandfather would get mad and tell me not to go down there, he would say, "Them n-ers will take you off and we'll never see you again".

I never had any problems at all there though, everyone knew who I was and who my grandfather was.

I don't remember thinking about the people there being Black... they were just my friends.

The first time I ever remember think racial thoughts about a Black person was in the Fifth grade.

There was this girl I liked named Robin Bower... only SHE liked Dwayne Brown, the very first Black kid I ever had in one of my classes.

I thought, "How could she pick him over me, he's Black?"

I even recognized it as a racist thought then... and Dwayne and I kinda ended up being friends.

There were not many Black people in La Porte Elementary, Junior High or even the High School back then.

It's sad... but I only remember two, the one I mentioned Dwayne Brown and Curvin Richards.

I'm thinking... surely there were more than two... seems like I remember a girl or two and maybe one more guy... but I don't remember their names.
california

Corona, CA

#9 Jul 26, 2013
Defiant1 wrote:
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First off. do you think you're special or something?. Medical and Dental professionals are notorious for sticking it to anyone that they can, so
don't feel too special. In fact, I really don't like these people at all and have to be in serious condition before subjecting myself to highway robbery.
Second of all, Obama is playing people like you for a fool. Where there may not have been a real race issue before, there is one now thanks to Obama and
Sharpton stirring things up. There is a real agenda behind keeping people divided.
Third of all, the so-called gun lobby is keeping the Constitution intact. Maybe you don't care about the Constitution but I do. There is more Black on White crime than there is White on Black crime. Don't believe it?. Go look it up.
Yeah moron look it up your self. Someone quoted some figures that you liked the sound of so now we are suppose to accept them as fact? Why don't you move your time frame back some and include crimes that were not crimes under Jim Crow. You should read a book titled "Without Sanctuary" in fact just look at the pictures. A good honest look at history shows your figures and beliefs for the lies they are.
ghostofbubbahill

Corona, CA

#10 Jul 26, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
There was a little bar... it was a Black bar called the Top Hat Lounge that was just down the dirt road and past the railroad tracks from my house near Broadway on Madison.
I spent many Summer days there drinking cokes and playing pool.
My grandfather would get mad and tell me not to go down there, he would say, "Them n-ers will take you off and we'll never see you again".
I never had any problems at all there though, everyone knew who I was and who my grandfather was.
I don't remember thinking about the people there being Black... they were just my friends.
The first time I ever remember think racial thoughts about a Black person was in the Fifth grade.
There was this girl I liked named Robin Bower... only SHE liked Dwayne Brown, the very first Black kid I ever had in one of my classes.
I thought, "How could she pick him over me, he's Black?"
I even recognized it as a racist thought then... and Dwayne and I kinda ended up being friends.
There were not many Black people in La Porte Elementary, Junior High or even the High School back then.
It's sad... but I only remember two, the one I mentioned Dwayne Brown and Curvin Richards.
I'm thinking... surely there were more than two... seems like I remember a girl or two and maybe one more guy... but I don't remember their names.
There were lots of black kids when I went to school in La Porte. Lots of great kids and great athletes. I remember the Head cheerleader Rhonda Goodman dated the quarterback Ricky Byars and no one at school even cared. Her father did threaten to kill her and Ricky if he ever caught them together,but the students did not care. She was homecoming queen.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#11 Jul 26, 2013
california wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah moron look it up your self. Someone quoted some figures that you liked the sound of so now we are suppose to accept them as fact? Why don't you move your time frame back some and include crimes that were not crimes under Jim Crow. You should read a book titled "Without Sanctuary" in fact just look at the pictures. A good honest look at history shows your figures and beliefs for the lies they are.
We are now into another century. Do try to keep up, you liberal jerk.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#12 Jul 26, 2013
This topix is a perfect example of why it is so difficult to have a conversation about race and racism. Before too long one color will say something that the other color doesn't like, someone gets angry, and it goes from convesation and discussion to argument and fight. That folks is just a true fact. Majority of crimes on blacks are committed by blacks, majority of crimes on whites are committed by whites, and crimes committed on whites by blacks is over four time over the number committed by whites on black. That too is a true fact. But racism is alive and well and being practiced by people of all colors. Another very sad but very true fact.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#14 Jul 26, 2013
I a z what makes you any better? Liberal black butt licking idiots; you can't get much more racist and angry than that, and it was uncalled for, which make you a big part of the problem. No conversation or discussion, just hateful racist retoric.
carnac

Pasadena, TX

#15 Jul 26, 2013
Stuck wrote:
Yesterday I was screwed over by a white girl that worked in the office of a local dentist - she denied my insurance benefits. After I caught her in a bald faced lie and extortion attempt I had the insurance company contact her directly to straighten things out. She was forced to comply, today I get a bill and she has piled on extra fees that were not in the original treatment plan. She told me to my face if I wanted to get charged the lower rate ( my contracted insurance rates) then she was going to add additional fees to bring it up to be more than their original quote.
Fortunately after contacting the legal department of the insurance company as well as the owners of the dental firm the young uppity white girl may be looking for some new employment.
This is white on mixed race crime that does not show in any crime stats. White people have been screwing people over for years and years and because they make the laws and have for all these years ( or have their cronies like the gun lobby write them ) they get off as not guilty. If white folks want to figure out why America is failing they should go look in the mirror. Jeff Pound and BSC are white are they not, Rick Perry? Mouton? Blame obama and sharpton - horsehockey.
ObamaCare at its finest!! No racial boundaries here, it effects all.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#17 Jul 26, 2013
Already done that, while we didn't totaly agree, and probably never will, we at least respected one another enough to stay friends. Racist come in all colors so do people with honor.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#18 Jul 26, 2013
I don't care for racist no matter what color they are.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#19 Jul 26, 2013
R-a-c-i-s-t-s
Texan

Wichita, KS

#20 Jul 26, 2013
Whatever. But I guess you should know.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#21 Jul 26, 2013
Texan wrote:
This topix is a perfect example of why it is so difficult to have a conversation about race and racism. Before too long one color will say something that the other color doesn't like, someone gets angry, and it goes from convesation and discussion to argument and fight. That folks is just a true fact. Majority of crimes on blacks are committed by blacks, majority of crimes on whites are committed by whites, and crimes committed on whites by blacks is over four time over the number committed by whites on black. That too is a true fact. But racism is alive and well and being practiced by people of all colors. Another very sad but very true fact.
Great, dumbass! I had this topic heading on a positive direction and YOU torpedoed it! You are nothing but a troll!
Elaine

Houston, TX

#22 Jul 26, 2013
He's just dumping on every thread now. He's not interested in understanding the discussion.
DP CASSIE

Pasadena, TX

#23 Jul 26, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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Great, dumbass! I had this topic heading on a positive direction and YOU torpedoed it! You are nothing but a troll!
What this all boils down to is there are good and bad in all walks of life, no matter your color, sex, sexual preference or age. Condemning everyone for the action of a few is wrong. Judge people for who they are instead of their skin color.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#24 Jul 26, 2013
DP CASSIE wrote:
<quoted text>What this all boils down to is there are good and bad in all walks of life, no matter your color, sex, sexual preference or age. Condemning everyone for the action of a few is wrong. Judge people for who they are instead of their skin color.
I have known all colors of racism in my life... and all colors of love.

I have seen the best and the worst of all people.

The truth is there is only one race... the human race... with many different heritages.

Color is just a reflection... and the truth is that the color you see is not the actual color of whatever you are looking at but only the color it reflects.

White people are not really white, Black people are not really black.

There are definitely differences... most of them are culture.

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