Do you support a cost of living raise...
Elaine

Houston, TX

#21 Jun 24, 2013
Texan wrote:
Cost of living raises whether or not you agree with them, never keep up with the cost of living. For the lady who asked COLA stands for Cost Of Living Adjustment, or Allowance, and it can go both up and down.
Still, Why? Because the cost of living went up? It went up for me too and I don't get to lower my taxes.

No raises for no reason. Merit bonuses only. Keep the base salaries low.
yooflungpoo

Houston, TX

#22 Jun 24, 2013
life is not fair...

*tosses Elaine a hanky*
Texan

Wichita, KS

#23 Jun 24, 2013
Yes, those with cola get a raise when the cost of living goes up, they take a pay cut when the cost of living goes down. You are taxed based on your income. Income goes up taxes go up, Income comes down taxes come down. That part of your argument is without merit. No raises for any reason, keep base salaries low? Sounds like you want a revolution. The price of all consumer goods keep going up wages stay the same? I guess that only business should make a decent living. But what should I expect from someone who uses double negatives? That makes you doubly negative doesn't it Elaine?
Elaine

Houston, TX

#24 Jun 24, 2013
Texan wrote:
Yes, those with cola get a raise when the cost of living goes up, they take a pay cut when the cost of living goes down. You are taxed based on your income. Income goes up taxes go up, Income comes down taxes come down. That part of your argument is without merit. No raises for any reason, keep base salaries low? Sounds like you want a revolution. The price of all consumer goods keep going up wages stay the same? I guess that only business should make a decent living. But what should I expect from someone who uses double negatives? That makes you doubly negative doesn't it Elaine?
Taxes never go down. Cola never goes down. Did you really think so? I am guessing you don't work for a living or pay taxes.

Pay each employee a base salary. Adjust it up only when they add responsibilities and give them a bonus for a job done very well. But keep the salary fixed. That way, the furniture and dinosaurs don't get rewarded just for showing up. And the real performers will get rewarded for their extra effort.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#25 Jun 24, 2013
My Dear Elaine, you don't know squat, while tax rates may not go up or down, taxes on your pay rate go up and down with that rate. I will also teach you something about guessing: I do work for a living, and pay taxes. I also happen to draw cola and they do in fact go up and down. While they seldom go down, they do on occasion do go down. I do my job every day and I do it well, as goes my performance so goes the company I work for. Peoples lives depend on my product and I take that very seriously. Extra effort no, do my job and do it to the best of my ability every day, you're damn skippy I do. Lives depend on my job being done right, can you say the same?
Elaine

Houston, TX

#26 Jun 24, 2013
Texan wrote:
My Dear Elaine, you don't know squat, while tax rates may not go up or down, taxes on your pay rate go up and down with that rate. I will also teach you something about guessing: I do work for a living, and pay taxes. I also happen to draw cola and they do in fact go up and down. While they seldom go down, they do on occasion do go down. I do my job every day and I do it well, as goes my performance so goes the company I work for. Peoples lives depend on my product and I take that very seriously. Extra effort no, do my job and do it to the best of my ability every day, you're damn skippy I do. Lives depend on my job being done right, can you say the same?
Thank you for proving my point. Unless you can provide an example of where tax rates have gone down. Or where your pay has been reduced for cola. Can't do it? I thought so.

There might be some county in Alaska that has reduced taxes, but once the government finds a way to take your money, they don't give it back.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#27 Jun 24, 2013
Man, I'm just not sure where to chime in on this argument.

Elaine has some good points but then again so does Texan.

In fact most everyone who has expressed a point on this string... made a point.

I guess I'm just going to have to go with... no.

I don't think city employees should get a COLA raise.

Times are tough... and they are getting tougher.

We've got to do away with many of the little perks we have all become accustomed to.

A COLA raise for a city employee... is another tax on the citizen.

As a city employee... your job is to serve the people... if you don't feel like you are being paid enough to do that, quit.

We'll reduce what the city paid you by 10% and find someone who will be happy to take your position that you are unhappy with.

Thus... we save 10%, get rid of a bad attitude... and bring in a fresh positive one.

That's improvement in my book.
LP Taxpayer

La Porte, TX

#28 Jun 24, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
As a city employee... your job is to serve the people... if you don't feel like you are being paid enough to do that, quit.
We'll reduce what the city paid you by 10% and find someone who will be happy to take your position that you are unhappy with.
Is this how you treat your 'servants'?

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#29 Jun 24, 2013
LP Taxpayer wrote:
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Is this how you treat your 'servants'?
I don't think you've heard, we're in a recession... jobs are hard to come by in the United States now, especially jobs with as many perks as working for the city comes with.

There are quality people out there who will take less than the city pays now... and they'll be thankful and grateful to have it.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#30 Jun 25, 2013
I never said tax rates go down, I said when YOU MAKE LESS YOU PAY LESS IN TAXES. I hope that is simple enough for even you to undestand Elaine. As to COLA I have it in my job contract, and I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT DOES GO BOTH UP AND DOWN. Elaine YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! You want me to prove that COLA does go both up and down; how about you show us all proof that it doesn't, you can't and I know it, I don't have to think you can't, I KNOW YOU CAN'T
Texan

Wichita, KS

#31 Jun 25, 2013
One more thing, if you work overtime on your job; after so many hours you do get taxed in a higher income brackett, That is why I tend to cut OT at 18hrs. more than that and I start to lose money.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#32 Jun 25, 2013
Texan wrote:
I never said tax rates go down, I said when YOU MAKE LESS YOU PAY LESS IN TAXES. I hope that is simple enough for even you to undestand Elaine. As to COLA I have it in my job contract, and I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT DOES GO BOTH UP AND DOWN. Elaine YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! You want me to prove that COLA does go both up and down; how about you show us all proof that it doesn't, you can't and I know it, I don't have to think you can't, I KNOW YOU CAN'T
You might want to read your own post: My Dear Elaine, you don't know squat, while tax rates may not go up or down, taxes on your pay rate go up and down with that rate. In that statement you declare that the tax rate goes down. Had you said " at that rate". It would indicate that the rate stayed the same.

When you get a cola raise, your pay never goes down. The cola raise FOR THE NEXT YEAR may go down. But you keep the raise you got last year. There is no reduction if the cost of living goes down.

So, once again, thank you for showing your ass to the world. Now grab another beer, Maury Povich is on.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#33 Jun 25, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
Man, I'm just not sure where to chime in on this argument.
Elaine has some good points but then again so does Texan.
In fact most everyone who has expressed a point on this string... made a point.
I guess I'm just going to have to go with... no.
I don't think city employees should get a COLA raise.
Times are tough... and they are getting tougher.
We've got to do away with many of the little perks we have all become accustomed to.
A COLA raise for a city employee... is another tax on the citizen.
As a city employee... your job is to serve the people... if you don't feel like you are being paid enough to do that, quit.
We'll reduce what the city paid you by 10% and find someone who will be happy to take your position that you are unhappy with.
Thus... we save 10%, get rid of a bad attitude... and bring in a fresh positive one.
That's improvement in my book.
A better approach is to outsource as many city departments as possible. There's no need to keep all of those furniture and houseplants, drinking coffee and surfing Facebook on taxpayers time.
Local Yokel

Lockhart, TX

#34 Jun 25, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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A better approach is to outsource as many city departments as possible. There's no need to keep all of those furniture and houseplants, drinking coffee and surfing Facebook on taxpayers time.
Outsource all City Departments to the lowest bidder. Sounds like a good plan for outstanding customer service!
Elaine

Houston, TX

#35 Jun 25, 2013
Local Yokel wrote:
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Outsource all City Departments to the lowest bidder. Sounds like a good plan for outstanding customer service!
It's like the difference between paying for your license plates at the county tax office or at Kroger. Kroger is cleaner, has no lines and they are friendlier.
HH

La Porte, TX

#36 Jun 25, 2013
Elaine wrote:
<quoted text>A better approach is to outsource as many city departments as possible. There's no need to keep all of those furniture and houseplants, drinking coffee and surfing Facebook on taxpayers time.
Ya Elaine outsource police fire and ems too.
Elaine

United States

#37 Jun 25, 2013
HH wrote:
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Ya Elaine outsource police fire and ems too.
Why not?
Ghost of Chuck Rosa

Lockhart, TX

#38 Jun 25, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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Why not?
Cheaper is ALWAYS better!

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#39 Jun 25, 2013
Ghost of Chuck Rosa wrote:
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Cheaper is ALWAYS better!
So... you think cheaper dog food is better?

Do you feed your dogs Old Roy?

Old Roy is animal abuse.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#40 Jun 26, 2013
Elaine you are an idiot. Twist it any way you choose. You are most likely the most over paid peerson on here.

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