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fubar

San Jose, CA

#1 Jul 28, 2013
I apologize for calling you a racist and I am not better than you or anyone else.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#2 Jul 28, 2013
fubar wrote:
I apologize for calling you a racist and I am not better than you or anyone else.
No problem. Apology accepted. My concern about the Zimmerman vs Martin thing is how it is being used to promote another agenda that tramples the rights of EVERYONE in this country even more.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#3 Jul 28, 2013
Defiant1 wrote:
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No problem. Apology accepted. My concern about the Zimmerman vs Martin thing is how it is being used to promote another agenda that tramples the rights of EVERYONE in this country even more.
Agreed allowing Trayvon to attempt to murder Zimm without any punishment would trample everyones rights.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#4 Jul 28, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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Agreed allowing Trayvon to attempt to murder Zimm without any punishment would trample everyones rights.
So it sounds like you think Zimmerman executed Martin with cause? That is how you just phrased that comment.

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#5 Jul 28, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>So it sounds like you think Zimmerman executed Martin with cause? That is how you just phrased that comment.
Martin was playing with fire... and he knew it.

Anytime you commit an act of violence against another person... you are taking a chance that person will defend themselves with an act of violence against you, up to an including lethal force if they fear for their life as I am sure Zimmerman did as he was having his head beat into the ground by Martin.
I am zimmerman

Crosby, TX

#6 Jul 28, 2013
FUBAR--there was NO execution, only zimm defending his life during a vicious attack by a thug. the state, the prosecution that was determined to throw ZIMM under the bus never charged him with EXECUTION. the jury found him innocent. get over it. come down off that far left zeal a while, try to think clearly try not making everything a far left BS crusade.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

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#7 Jul 29, 2013
And... once Zimmerman pulled his gun I don't blame him at all for shooting.

I've heard people saying,"Why didn't he just pull the gun and scare him off?".

First, you don't pull a gun to scare people... second, he was getting the crap kicked out of him and Trayvon might have just shot Zimmerman and then been armed to go out and commit more crimes.

Really, it's silly to argue the what if's.

What happened... happened... and if it would have happened to one of us... do you think Trayvon would have given a shit?
fubar

San Jose, CA

#8 Jul 29, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
<quoted text>Martin was playing with fire... and he knew it.
Anytime you commit an act of violence against another person... you are taking a chance that person will defend themselves with an act of violence against you, up to an including lethal force if they fear for their life as I am sure Zimmerman did as he was having his head beat into the ground by Martin.
Elaine' s comment was literally saying Zimmerman executed Martin. I did not say that. Try rereading it after you pull your head out of your -ss. Elaine wrote if Martin went unpunished...Martin is dead, she implied Zimmerman punished him, not me. You are such -ss calling people out on spelling when you know exactly what they mean, yet you could not figure this one out.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#9 Jul 29, 2013
I am zimmerman wrote:
FUBAR--there was NO execution, only zimm defending his life during a vicious attack by a thug. the state, the prosecution that was determined to throw ZIMM under the bus never charged him with EXECUTION. the jury found him innocent. get over it. come down off that far left zeal a while, try to think clearly try not making everything a far left BS crusade.
You are a moron who has trouble with his reading comprehension. Elaine implied Zimmerman executed Martin, not me. I agree he was found not guilty, he was not found innocent, they are not exactly the same thing. Ask a lawyer.
Casey Anthony,OJ also found not guilty. The verdicts are the verdicts accept one accept them all. Elaine did not mean to imply Zimmerman punished Martin, at least I hope she did not mean that, but tat is the way she wrote it. She is a nasty person so I called her out on it. You are not smart enough to understand.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#10 Jul 29, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
And... once Zimmerman pulled his gun I don't blame him at all for shooting.
I've heard people saying,"Why didn't he just pull the gun and scare him off?".
First, you don't pull a gun to scare people... second, he was getting the crap kicked out of him and Trayvon might have just shot Zimmerman and then been armed to go out and commit more crimes.
Really, it's silly to argue the what if's.
What happened... happened... and if it would have happened to one of us... do you think Trayvon would have given a shit?
No one was arguing about it at all -sswipe. Was Trayvon after you too, fatboy? Of course people are going to do what they need to do in order to defend themselves. I have never, not even once, said otherwise. Sometimes you seem sort of smart and then....
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#11 Jul 29, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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Agreed allowing Trayvon to attempt to murder Zimm without any punishment would trample everyones rights.
I won't dispute that Zimmerman had to defend himself but I think the whole incident could have been easily avoided by Zimmerman standing down when he was told to do so by the police dispatcher. Also, Martin didn't have the right to try pounding someones head into the sidewalk either. Mistakes on both sides.

People on both sides of this issue need to look at this whole thing objectively. We have an activist government with it's lap dog media always on the lookout for anything to stir up and keep the population divided. Also, to keep everyone's attention diverted from little things like Fast and Furious.

Funny how the media and the government don't want to talk about the 300 plus innocent civilians in Mexico and the Border Patrol Agent that were
murdered by the guns that the so-called Justice Dept. authorized.

Both of these incidents have one thing in common. They provided the government with another opportunity to work towards destroying what's
left of freedoms in this country.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#12 Jul 29, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>Elaine' s comment was literally saying Zimmerman executed Martin. I did not say that. QUOTE]

[QUOTE who="fubar"]<quot ed text> Elaine implied Zimmerman executed Martin, not me.
I did not LITERALLY say it nor did I IMPLY it. I said, Zimmerman "punished" martin for attacking him; to save his own life.

Your obsession with distorting the facts only shows that you are wrong and have no real justification for your opinion.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#13 Jul 29, 2013
Defiant1 wrote:
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I think the whole incident could have been easily avoided by Zimmerman standing down when he was told to do so by the police dispatcher.
Using your logic, Martin could have avoided the whole thing by not trying to kill Zimmerman.

Stupid hurts.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#14 Jul 29, 2013
fubar wrote:
You are such -ss calling people out on spelling when you know exactly what they mean, yet you could not figure this one out.


You mean I a supposed to figured out what you are too illiterate to spell?

My opinion is... if you did not allow yourself to be properly educated and you did not educate yourself... you probably ought not to be sharing your uneducated opinion on a forum.

I bet you graduated High School, huh?
fubar

San Jose, CA

#15 Jul 30, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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I did not LITERALLY say it nor did I IMPLY it. I said, Zimmerman "punished" martin for attacking him; to save his own life.
Your obsession with distorting the facts only shows that you are wrong and have no real justification for your opinion.
That is exactly what I said. You are agreeing with what I wrote. You are saying punished not me. Zimmerman did what he had to do to save his own life. You are saying Zimmerman punished Martin and that implies intent. The jury found him not guilty stupid.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#16 Jul 30, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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You mean I a supposed to figured out what you are too illiterate to spell?
My opinion is... if you did not allow yourself to be properly educated and you did not educate yourself... you probably ought not to be sharing your uneducated opinion on a forum.
I bet you graduated High School, huh?
Dumb-ss there were no spelling errors on the post in question. Read Elaine's later post where she says Zimmerman punished Martin. "Punished Martin" implies intent actually it does more than imply intent. I did graduate, did you?

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#17 Jul 30, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text> I did graduate, did you?
That's my point... I dropped out in the ninth grade.

I can usually spot a high school graduate.

Did you graduate from La Porte?

That would explain you not knowing YOUR from YOU'RE.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#18 Jul 30, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text> That is exactly what I said. You are agreeing with what I wrote. You are saying punished not me. Zimmerman did what he had to do to save his own life. You are saying Zimmerman punished Martin and that implies intent. The jury found him not guilty stupid.
Did you even read my post? You are wrong. Go back and read it.

Yes, he intended to save his own life after Trayvon began murdering him.. You are confusing the "intent" with if he intended to kill Martin when he first approached him. Your grasp of the facts has been distorted by MSNBC and Jon Stewart.
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#19 Jul 30, 2013
If he didn't intend to kill him when he pulled his gun he is stupid. When I got my first hand gun, I was told never to pull it unless I was prepared to use it, and to never use it unless I was intending to kill. The reasons I was given were quite simple if you pull it and don't use it you might have it taken away from you and be shot. If you use it and do not kill, the person you wounded may: Come back later and kill you, or take you to court and sue you for all you will ever own. BEST BET: Don't put yourself in the position where you have to make that decision. MISTAKES MADE: Zimmerman, not taking the 911 operators advice. Martin, not just going on to his fathers home. RESULT: Lives ruined. DUMB!

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#20 Jul 30, 2013
Texan wrote:
If he didn't intend to kill him when he pulled his gun he is stupid. When I got my first hand gun, I was told never to pull it unless I was prepared to use it, and to never use it unless I was intending to kill. The reasons I was given were quite simple if you pull it and don't use it you might have it taken away from you and be shot. If you use it and do not kill, the person you wounded may: Come back later and kill you, or take you to court and sue you for all you will ever own. BEST BET: Don't put yourself in the position where you have to make that decision. MISTAKES MADE: Zimmerman, not taking the 911 operators advice. Martin, not just going on to his fathers home. RESULT: Lives ruined. DUMB!
Of course he intended to shoot him when he pulled his gun, only he can say if he intended to kill him.

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