Should Felons Vote?
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Elaine

Houston, TX

#1 Feb 12, 2014
http://www.cnn.com/video/...

So, Eric Holder, the US Attorney General wants to allow convicted felons to vote. That's right. The people who have killed, raped, stolen, and otherwise made life miserable for the rest of us. He claims they were convicted because of race and they means they need to be able to vote. More race baiting.

What do you say?
Tommy

Bellville, TX

#2 Feb 12, 2014
Should white trash be allowed to monopolize forums?
leon

Crosby, TX

#3 Feb 12, 2014
TOMMY why do you feel that you monopolize the forum?.
leon

Crosby, TX

#4 Feb 12, 2014
sure ERIC HOLDER wants felons to vote---- millions of instant democrats.
Witty Nickname

Houston, TX

#5 Feb 12, 2014
I saw the article as well, my first thought is 'HELL NO', but then you start thinking about those who have paid their debt to society. I am going to let my opinion marinade for a couple of days. This is just something I hadn't considered before.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#6 Feb 12, 2014
Witty Nickname wrote:
I saw the article as well, my first thought is 'HELL NO', but then you start thinking about those who have paid their debt to society. I am going to let my opinion marinade for a couple of days. This is just something I hadn't considered before.
Does a child molester or rapist ever pay his debt to society? Doesn't their crime prove they are unfit to vote? Lots of killers serve their time and then get out. Should they be allowed to vote on the laws that will put others in jail or let other killers out?

I am of the belief that when you cross the felony line, you give up your right to vote forever. And for some crimes, you give up your right to life. We don't need them voting or breathing.
Lomaxx

Houston, TX

#7 Feb 12, 2014
Nope, a felony is a lifetime offense and doesn't wear off.
But a benefit for being a felon is no jury duty either! Just look on the bright side! LOL!
fubar

San Jose, CA

#8 Feb 13, 2014
It turns out many felons have been allowed to vote all along. I was always taught if you were a convicted felon you couldn't vote-but apparently there is a loop hole(s) that allows certain felons the right to vote.
Punchbowl Turd

La Porte, TX

#9 Feb 13, 2014
Elaine wrote:
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Does a child molester or rapist ever pay his debt to society? Doesn't their crime prove they are unfit to vote? Lots of killers serve their time and then get out. Should they be allowed to vote on the laws that will put others in jail or let other killers out?
I am of the belief that when you cross the felony line, you give up your right to vote forever. And for some crimes, you give up your right to life. We don't need them voting or breathing.
Your heart is black and filled with hate. You might want to make an appointment next Sunday morning to have that checked out.

“Trying to be civil with idiots”

Since: Oct 09

Sarajevo, Bosnia

#10 Feb 13, 2014
I had to let this stew a little before i responded.

I believe that if you have paid your debt to society, parole/probation complete and successful completion of an Assimilation Program. Then you should have the same rights as every other citizen. However, i also believe that any violent/ sexual criminal should never see the light of day... They can never pay there debt to society.

As i researched more, I realized that most states have provisions for this. Statutes vary from state to state, but for the most part it falls into what i outlined above.

The real kicker, the issue i am still struggling with, is if they have the right to vote. Then they will have to fulfill there civic duty and serve Jury
Duty. In a perfect World, we would hope that they would be completely reformed by this point, but we know that will not be the case for all.

All Eric Holder is trying to do is take the authority from the States and give to the Federal Government. Which always works out bad for the people.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#11 Feb 13, 2014
Punchbowl Turd wrote:
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Your heart is black and filled with hate. You might want to make an appointment next Sunday morning to have that checked out.
I didn't realize you have such a soft spot for child molesters, murderers and rapists. Do you have something you would like to confess? Are you ready to come out of the closet with your guilt? You might sleep better.

“Trying to be civil with idiots”

Since: Oct 09

Sarajevo, Bosnia

#12 Feb 13, 2014
Elaine wrote:
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I am of the belief that when you cross the felony line, you give up your right to vote forever.
I disagree. Several laws that you could be charged a felony for are stupid and to be honest, no one should loose there unalienable rights as granted in the Constitution because of them.

Heck, flashing your headlights to warn others of a speed trap is a felony. Owning more than 6 dildos is a felony.... It is a felony to kill a poison ivy plant within a mile of a state park.

Studies show that most Americans commit 6 felonies a day without even knowing it.
Harvey Silverglate

“Trying to be civil with idiots”

Since: Oct 09

Sarajevo, Bosnia

#13 Feb 13, 2014
Dang it! Pushed send before rechecking what i wrote.

"The average American commits 3 felonies a day without knowing it," the 6 above was a typo.
Punchbowl Turd

La Porte, TX

#14 Feb 13, 2014
Elaine wrote:
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I didn't realize you have such a soft spot for child molesters, murderers and rapists. Do you have something you would like to confess? Are you ready to come out of the closet with your guilt? You might sleep better.
I'm merely making an observation about you. No soft spot for any sex offender here. However, many other convicted felons deserve a chance to turn their lives around and have the chance to redeem themselves and become productive members of society.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#15 Feb 13, 2014
Would you allow this one to vote?

http://www.khou.com/news/investigative/Serial...
Elaine

Houston, TX

#16 Feb 13, 2014
Punchbowl Turd wrote:
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I'm merely making an observation about you. No soft spot for any sex offender here. However, many other convicted felons deserve a chance to turn their lives around and have the chance to redeem themselves and become productive members of society.
Do you think this one has turned his life around? Do you think he will be a productive member of society?

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Families-Fi...
Want my town back

Pasadena, TX

#17 Feb 13, 2014
Elaine wrote:
Would you allow this one to vote?
http://www.khou.com/news/investigative/Serial...
Nope, he deserves to die and i am sure he will be taken care of. Men that have killed and molested kids, dont live very long after release. Juries seem to never convict this type of retaliation....

But, per your previous statements. You think Michael Elli should never be allowed to vote... Ever! Cause he flashed his headlights to warn others of a speed trap. Like you said, "I am of the belief that when you cross the felony line, you give up your right to vote forever"..

Elaine, We have been on the same side with most issues, but you are dead wrong on this one. I was hoping my examples would open your eyes and you would correct yourself. Instead you you pulled the most extreme situation you could to prove your point.

Like i said, "I believe that if you have paid your debt to society, parole/probation complete and successful completion of an Assimilation Program. Then you should have the same rights as every other citizen. However, i also believe that any violent/ sexual criminal should never see the light of day... They can never pay there debt to society.".

I still stand behind my statement
Want my town back

Pasadena, TX

#18 Feb 13, 2014
Elaine, I hope you have not used an unauthorized access to an electrical current. If you plug into an outlet that isn't yours and you don't have written consent. That will be a felony with 10 years in the pen... you should not vote.

Have you ever lied online about your height, weight or age. That is another felony and 10 years in prison...of course you cannot vote.

You ever shared a recipe with a friend? Thats a felony and 5 years in prison.

Have you reported every tip you have ever left or received? Yep another felony and 5 years in prison.

P2P a song or movie? another felony and 15 years in prison.

I could list these all day long, but i think you get my point. Most rapist, murders, molesters etc never leave the judicial system and therefore not allowed to vote in any state (i really researched this and couldnt find one). Even Eric Holder is not suggesting that they should be allowed to vote, but he is suggesting that Eli should be able to vote since he paid his debt to society...... Which the states recognize and have statutes for it.
Lomaxx

Houston, TX

#19 Feb 13, 2014
Want my town back...I noticed it's not the registered name???
Are you saying only be child molesters or mass murderers should be felons? But if they only kill one or 2 make it a misdemeanor?
I see the Law as being too lenient now as to allow convicts back on the streets to commit the same crimes 2 years after they did it their 1st time.
Put'em in the pen and throw the key away if they can't be rehabilitated.
Lomaxx

Houston, TX

#20 Feb 13, 2014
Ever heard of the term 'repeat offender'?

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