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Elaine

Houston, TX

#61 Oct 18, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
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But unions are people? Public sector unions are people? Define "people" then because a corporation, just like a union is nothing but people. It's semantics. But back to healthcare. Insurance companies ARE driving healthcare costs through the roof. Now Obamacare mandates you buy health insurance. How does that lower costs?
No. Insurance companies want the cost to be lower so they can afford to sell it to more customers.

Government regulations are causing it to be more expensive:
-Requiring insurance companies to keep the insured's kids on a low cost plan until they are 26.
-Requiring that doctors comply with expensive HIPPA reporting and standards
-Requiring insurance companies to cover birth control
-Requiring insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions

Patients are causing it to be more expensive:
-Smoking, overeating and drinking cause the vast majority of illnesses in this country. And the patients want the doctor to fix it with drugs and therapy and they want the insurance company to pay for it.
- Patients blindly accept the doctor's recommendations. They should take charge of their health and be responsible for their own fitness.

Look down at your belly and ask yourself: " Am I taking care of myself the best that I can?"

Again, It's your responsibility. Not the doctor or the insurance company or the government. It's yours.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#62 Oct 18, 2013
Elaine, you can't be serious about insurance companies wanting lower rates. Damn, what planet are you from? While it is each persons responsibility to take the best possible care of themselves, things beyond their control do happen. Insurance companies wanting lower rates; that is just tooooooo funny.
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

#63 Oct 21, 2013
Elaine wrote:
<quoted text>No. Insurance companies want the cost to be lower so they can afford to sell it to more customers.

Government regulations are causing it to be more expensive:
-Requiring insurance companies to keep the insured's kids on a low cost plan until they are 26.
-Requiring that doctors comply with expensive HIPPA reporting and standards
-Requiring insurance companies to cover birth control
-Requiring insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions

Patients are causing it to be more expensive:
-Smoking, overeating and drinking cause the vast majority of illnesses in this country. And the patients want the doctor to fix it with drugs and therapy and they want the insurance company to pay for it.
- Patients blindly accept the doctor's recommendations. They should take charge of their health and be responsible for their own fitness.

Look down at your belly and ask yourself: " Am I taking care of myself the best that I can?"

Again, It's your responsibility. Not the doctor or the insurance company or the government. It's yours.
Elaine, don't argue with me. Unless your willing to share naked pics of yourself, nothing you say is valid.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#64 Oct 22, 2013
Texan wrote:
Elaine, you can't be serious about insurance companies wanting lower rates. Damn, what planet are you from? While it is each persons responsibility to take the best possible care of themselves, things beyond their control do happen. Insurance companies wanting lower rates; that is just tooooooo funny.
You don't understand the basic principals of business. Lower price equals more customers and more market share. Fixed costs spread over more revenue means more profit and higher executive salaries. Can you really say you want to pay more just because a higher price is available?

Now go grab another Pop-Tart and turn on the TV. Exercise is for suckers.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#65 Oct 22, 2013
Yes I do understand the basic principals of business<make all you can any way you can> it's called corperate greed, hence higher profit, obsene executive salaries, and golden parachutes. I understand all too well. I don't care for Pop-Tarts, and I prefer taking out one of the horses and riding for a while as opposed to wasting time in front of the TV.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#66 Oct 25, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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No. Insurance companies want the cost to be lower so they can afford to sell it to more customers.
Government regulations are causing it to be more expensive:
-Requiring insurance companies to keep the insured's kids on a low cost plan until they are 26.
-Requiring that doctors comply with expensive HIPPA reporting and standards
-Requiring insurance companies to cover birth control
-Requiring insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions
Patients are causing it to be more expensive:
-Smoking, overeating and drinking cause the vast majority of illnesses in this country. And the patients want the doctor to fix it with drugs and therapy and they want the insurance company to pay for it.
- Patients blindly accept the doctor's recommendations. They should take charge of their health and be responsible for their own fitness.
Look down at your belly and ask yourself: " Am I taking care of myself the best that I can?"
Again, It's your responsibility. Not the doctor or the insurance company or the government. It's yours.
Elaine insurance companies are for profit and their greed is the cause of the soaring cost of healthcare. Insurance companies have taken money away from doctors and lined their pockets. Almost every impartial study has found that it is cheaper and more cost effective to supply women with birth control than not. You actually should look into things before you spout your right wing bs here. Having babies is more expensive than not having babies. You should put some thought into it. Forcing women to have babies is barbaric. All women deserve the right to control their own reproductive systems, and it is cheaper for the insurance comp as nude to boot.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#67 Oct 25, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
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But unions are people? Public sector unions are people? Define "people" then because a corporation, just like a union is nothing but people. It's semantics. But back to healthcare. Insurance companies ARE driving healthcare costs through the roof. Now Obamacare mandates you buy health insurance. How does that lower costs?
Unions are not people and neither are corporations. Corporations do not go to jail even when they admit their intent to break our laws. Citigroup? Got a 13billion dollar fine and no one went to jail. People go to jail not corporations. People run corporations but corporations themselves are not people. You can't shoot a corporation, it does not get the flu or cancer it does not bleed therefore it is not a person. Corporations are businesses and nothing else. Some are good some are bad,but they are not people.

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#68 Oct 25, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>Unions are not people and neither are corporations. Corporations do not go to jail even when they admit their intent to break our laws. Citigroup? Got a 13billion dollar fine and no one went to jail. People go to jail not corporations. People run corporations but corporations themselves are not people. You can't shoot a corporation, it does not get the flu or cancer it does not bleed therefore it is not a person. Corporations are businesses and nothing else. Some are good some are bad,but they are not people.
You have a point there GOAT. No one has gone to jail in any corporate scandal under the current administration.

However, under the republicans, we had many. Skilling and Fastow from Enron. Scott Sullivan and Bernie Ebbers for WorldCom. Richard Scrushy from HealthSouth. The list goes on and on.

You might think of Bernie Madoff. But that investigation and trial was well under way before Zero came in.

I guess if you pay the Muslim-in-chief enough they leave you alone.
fubar

Corona, CA

#69 Nov 1, 2013
Saltwater Cat wrote:
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You have a point there GOAT. No one has gone to jail in any corporate scandal under the current administration.
However, under the republicans, we had many. Skilling and Fastow from Enron. Scott Sullivan and Bernie Ebbers for WorldCom. Richard Scrushy from HealthSouth. The list goes on and on.
You might think of Bernie Madoff. But that investigation and trial was well under way before Zero came in.
I guess if you pay the Muslim-in-chief enough they leave you alone.
Saltwater cat sounds like you consider yourself a bottom feeder and I agree with you. Just shows even morons can get online.

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