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There are 222 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Nov 20, 2012, titled Scottsville Man Facing Felony Charges in Death of Hunting Dog - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA Ne.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Tuesday night a hunting dog is dead, a man is facing felony charges and Albemarle County police say it all could have been prevented.

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Puzzled

Charlottesville, VA

#23 Nov 20, 2012
If hunters say they are in control of their dogs, why do they allow them to wander? This doesn't sound like you are in control. Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to hunting, just puzzled. It is the hunters job to control and train their dogs, no?
Prickly

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Nov 20, 2012
For Dog Rights wrote:
Too Funny.. Pricks enjoying taking lives away...I grew up on the farm and when it came to taking the life away of that chicken you eat or the hog or cow you buy in the store you idiot, the chicken got his head cut off & the cow & pig got shot between the eyes, HOW do you think they do it at slaughter houses.
City people need to go back to the city and and leave us country folk alone.
If you don't like the way Virginia laws are please do us a favor and move on.
How do you know people who complain are not country folk and the hunters are not city folk? Your ignorance shows.
community girl

United States

#25 Nov 20, 2012
Dick Tracey wrote:
When does trespassing occur if I post my land and you still trespass. I'd like to hear from a hunter. It may help me to better understand. You chase a deer or dog on my property. The dog is yours, is the deer yours too even though the land is posted or do you ignore my property rights or may be I have none?
I know the dog can't read.... I'd have to give some of these hunters a reading test
For Dog Rights

Silver Spring, MD

#26 Nov 20, 2012
It's a no win situation. The dogs are going to follow whatever it is they are hunting. Control? Control to a certain point but you can't guide the deer, fox , etc. As far The Law, Hunters have the right to retrieve, no weapon allowed, no vehicle, only upon landowners permission. Go to VDGIF.com under regulations or pick up a hunting guide it's all in there or talk to Va.Game Commission Officer. Hunters have rights too anyone caught interfering with the hunt can be charged.
in the olden days

Palmyra, VA

#27 Nov 20, 2012
When I was a child they did not use dogs to hunt. The hunters employed children sometimes their own banging on pots to drive and flush the deer out of hiding. Then when the shooting started the kids would simply lay down and duck and cover until it was all over with.

I am not sure which was is better but if your going to drive animals why not put a little life into it?
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#28 Nov 20, 2012
Joe wrote:
If you are so worried about your dog, keep it off of someones property. You were trespassing. Surprised the hunters don't shoot each other more often.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but it's the right one. Rose brings up an excellent point. I like dogs more than I like most people, but people should have a right to their own property. It's a shame that this dog owner released their dog onto a property that wasn't agreed to by the owner, or owned by the dog owner. If anyone is to blame, it's the dog owner. Your rights end where my civil and personal property rights begin, there's not any grey in this matter. Poor dog
For Dog Rights

Silver Spring, MD

#29 Nov 20, 2012
I started to not even post because of people like you. I am far from Ignorant & I must have PRICKED a nerve. The ones that truly know what I mean, Get it. No need to keep explaining.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#30 Nov 20, 2012
For Dog Rights wrote:
It's a no win situation. The dogs are going to follow whatever it is they are hunting. Control? Control to a certain point but you can't guide the deer, fox , etc. As far The Law, Hunters have the right to retrieve, no weapon allowed, no vehicle, only upon landowners permission. Go to VDGIF.com under regulations or pick up a hunting guide it's all in there or talk to Va.Game Commission Officer. Hunters have rights too anyone caught interfering with the hunt can be charged.
I have no problem with hunters having rights, but not on posted private property. It's a broken law. It's basically the right to tresspass if you are unarmed and have a dog.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#31 Nov 20, 2012
For Dog Rights wrote:
I started to not even post because of people like you. I am far from Ignorant & I must have PRICKED a nerve. The ones that truly know what I mean, Get it. No need to keep explaining.
It's best, when you reply to a post, to hit the reply button on the upper right hand side of their post. That way their quote will be in your post and everyone knows who you are replying to.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#32 Nov 20, 2012
For Dog Rights wrote:
It's a no win situation. The dogs are going to follow whatever it is they are hunting. Control? Control to a certain point but you can't guide the deer, fox , etc. As far The Law, Hunters have the right to retrieve, no weapon allowed, no vehicle, only upon landowners permission. Go to VDGIF.com under regulations or pick up a hunting guide it's all in there or talk to Va.Game Commission Officer. Hunters have rights too anyone caught interfering with the hunt can be charged.
Here is the law you refer to:
•Section 18.2-136 of the Code of Virginia decriminalizes trespass in certain instances related to dog retrieval. That section provides: "Fox hunters and coon hunters, when the chase begins on other lands, may follow their dogs on prohibited lands, and hunters of all other game, when the chase begins on other lands, may go upon prohibited lands to retrieve their dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls, but may not carry firearms or bow and arrows on their person or hunt any game while thereon. The use of vehicles to retrieve dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls on prohibiteds lands shall be allowed only with the permission of the landowner or his agent. Any person who goes on prohibited lands to retrieve his dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls pursuant to this section and who willfully refuses to identify himself when requested by the landowner or his agent to do so is guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor."
For Dog Rights

Silver Spring, MD

#33 Nov 20, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I have no problem with hunters having rights, but not on posted private property. It's a broken law. It's basically the right to tresspass if you are unarmed and have a dog.
I understand where you are coming from I am a landowner myself. I like to know when people are on my property. We personally try to make every effort to keep our dogs on our property while hunting, sometimes they get off and it's out of our control even though you train it's hard and believe or not there are good hunters and we're not trying to get on anyones bad side. And the whole trespass thing I understand that too, it's like a violation of privacy, that's why we try to make contact with landowner.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#34 Nov 20, 2012
For Dog Rights wrote:
<quoted text>I understand where you are coming from I am a landowner myself. I like to know when people are on my property. We personally try to make every effort to keep our dogs on our property while hunting, sometimes they get off and it's out of our control even though you train it's hard and believe or not there are good hunters and we're not trying to get on anyones bad side. And the whole trespass thing I understand that too, it's like a violation of privacy, that's why we try to make contact with landowner.
I'm sure you are a fine and responsible dog hunter and that there are plenty of others that are but congruently there are also disrespectful and negligent dog hunters as well. The landowners that are opposed to hunting aren't your biggest threat, the irresponsible and reckless dog hunters that abuse the statues are. Just like I know dog hunters that treat their dogs like gold, and I've been acquainted with dog hunters that treat their dogs worse than what vermin ought to be treated. Those that are opposed to dog hunting because of the treatment of dogs don't take issue with those that treat their animals in proper respect, they take issue with those who allow the dog collars do grow into their necks, emasculate them, and deprave them of what little dignity dogs do deserve.
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I don't know what this fellow's issue was, but I do know people that own wildlife conservation areas that have problems with dogs and trespassers all the time. They often find bear poached with just their gallbladders removed. They do, for a price, allow responsible and ethical hunts on their property, so it's not that they're anti-hunting. They actually big game hunt in Africa or Canada annually (I think they might go to South America next year, and they went to Alaska this year.) They’ve allowed me to hunt on their property because I’m in the know, and they’ve had to cull the doe population from time to time.(I would have to pay to buck hunt, and they got some big bucks)
wwtjdo

Charlottesville, VA

#35 Nov 20, 2012
I cannot phantom some of these ignorant remarks. I have hunting dogs that run through my yard barking & chasing something I haven't seen. I am not a hunter. I don't mind people who do hunt. I myself don't like the use of dogs to hunt. Use your own skills. Reading the story I wonder why the jerk (That's what he is IMO)had to even shoot the dog.I believe in the right to protect life, family & property.*(*To an extent)But to shoot a dog because he was on your property is ignorant. Too many people decide since they have certain rights that they do not have to think or use common sense. I hope he gets a serious punishment. Imagine if a young child was chasing the dog too & the bullet struck the child.
antoine

Washington, DC

#36 Nov 20, 2012
Wellllll, obviously we got a dog dog killer up here in woodridge!
Lock your doors, hide your dogs, hide your collars,'cause he's gonna kill all the dogs up in woodridge.
This is worth watching:
&fe ature=fvst

Seriously, does anyone know this guy? He's known to be strange and he lets his rottweilers run wild all of the time.
Dog Owner

Dillon, SC

#37 Nov 20, 2012
I hope when it's all said and done...and the dog shooter gets finished serving his jail time, and can't own a gun anymore...that he is dealt some old fashioned justice.
Race factor

Buckingham, VA

#38 Nov 20, 2012
Violet wrote:
'Joe' is an illiterate idiot. It doesn't matter if a dog is 'trespassing' on your property. It is not legal for you to shoot it unless it is threatening you or your livestock/pets. Also, the article plainly states that it IS NOT trespassing for a hunter to come on your property to retrieve a dog. I thoroughly detest hunting (especially when dogs are involved) however, that doesn't change the law or the rights that the law gives hunters. And, to 'rose', I'm sorry that hunters irresponsibly cut your fence and didn't pay damages, but that still doesn't give one the right to 'melt down' and kill someones dog.
Kill the dog and the hunter. Laws that gives hunters more rights than the property owners was design by a bunch of pot smoking liberals.
haha

Palmyra, VA

#39 Nov 20, 2012
Ana wrote:
There is NOT. "good" hunters!! You pricks enjoy taking lives away....you are insane!! They deserve to have a life as much as you do!! Or even more!! They dont go after hunters!!(too bad)
Mmmm, Venison.
haha

Palmyra, VA

#40 Nov 20, 2012
Race factor wrote:
<quoted text>Kill the dog and the hunter. Laws that gives hunters more rights than the property owners was design by a bunch of pot smoking liberals.
Mmmmm, Pot.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#41 Nov 20, 2012
antoine wrote:
Wellllll, obviously we got a dog dog killer up here in woodridge!
Lock your doors, hide your dogs, hide your collars,'cause he's gonna kill all the dogs up in woodridge.
This is worth watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EzNhaLUT520XX&feature=fvs t
Seriously, does anyone know this guy? He's known to be strange and he lets his rottweilers run wild all of the time.
and they're raping all the dogs up in there... the remix version is much better... and you can run and tell that, homeboy

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#42 Nov 20, 2012
Race factor wrote:
<quoted text>Kill the dog and the hunter. Laws that gives hunters more rights than the property owners was design by a bunch of pot smoking liberals.

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