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There are 222 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Nov 20, 2012, titled Scottsville Man Facing Felony Charges in Death of Hunting Dog - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA Ne.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Tuesday night a hunting dog is dead, a man is facing felony charges and Albemarle County police say it all could have been prevented.

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Dude

Winchester, VA

#190 Nov 24, 2012
Crazy wrote:
From reading the post I understand personal property, but once a deer gets shot or someone's dog runs on the property you have not only a right but obligation to retrieve either or both. Is it fair....not really but neither is the fact with many things in life being fair. As most people who are lucky enough or fortunate enough to have property it's not fair, but it is life. People should respect others property, but still understand sometimes 2 worlds will collide, you can either blow up or try to work with one another. That is hunters also, don't cut fences, or let your dogs loose on someone's property, but if they come on your property realize they might not be intentional doing it, just trying to kill a deer.
Nobody is stating that life is fair.
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Personal property rights are inalienable, hunting, like all things you have to get a license for, is a privilege.
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The guy was probably a d-bag for killing the dog, but in all fairness, it's his property.
Zorby

Richmond, VA

#191 Nov 24, 2012
Mmc wrote:
You don't know history of this relationship those hunters have abused mr. Mullins his land an every other neighbor around them even physically abusing him in past.mr. Mullins is a huge dog person and this is what they have driven him to. They hunt upwards of100 dogs at a time how do u control that!thats abusing your rights.RTR on way out can't wait and I am a hunter as well they try to run over me on my land as well with hunting dogs I hate em!stop judging when u don't know anything about what has previously occurred judge,jury,executioner no evidence?get the facts!
As a wooded land owner, I have had a huge problem for years with "hunters" who drive up to my boundary line to release their dogs, which chase deer down to my creek where they run along it to the next property where the ambushers are waiting with their guns. Meanwhile some of their dogs have nearly torn down my rabbit cages or seized my bunnies' feet and dragged them through the wire. Does the 10,000 acre hunting preserve carry insurance to indemnify adjacent land owners whose property rights have been violated? Do they have fencing to keep the dogs and hunters confined to the hunt club hunting grounds? In prior years, the solution for the tormented property owner was SSS, shoot, shovel and shut up. Now the hunters have $599 tracking collars on dogs they send to chase across private land, but no intention of paying the property owner a penny to hunt his land with the excuse "Oh, we can;t help where our dogs go." I would not shoot a dog but slob hunters who send their dogs to trespass or injure other peoples' property ought to be controlled somehow. I would be very interested to learn how many dog how many times came across Mullins' property before he pinged. More fuss over this little Bob than humans killed with less reason. Whatever happened to balanced reporting of actual facts?????
Zorby

Richmond, VA

#192 Nov 24, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I posted the law, and that's not true; they can come on your property for dog retrieval regardless of permission. They need permission if they want to bring a vehicle on your property, and are supposed to be unarmed...
...it appears that you, too, knows how well that works out. Every single piece of property on either side of 231/ 22 has been poached on
it's a ridiculous law as far as getting permission from the owner to come on his/her property because how do the dog runners know who the owner is unless they are already trespassing to find out? How many owners are waiting by the drawbridge to give permission to enter? Yes, some posted properties do have phone numbers to call - sometimes.
Zorby

Richmond, VA

#193 Nov 24, 2012
Veritas wrote:
I think you all might want to hold up with the comments until the results come back from the necropsy. The dog wasn't shot, stay tuned.
Interestingly, I looked up the charges which don't indicate death; among other charges, the charge is "animal cruelty." Did Mullins' rottweilers, which were protecting their property, kill the beagle? please explain why you state the dog was not shot? It is dead, right? How????? Is there any way to get some accuracy on this incident from people who were actually there, not handkerchief story tellers?
Zorby

Richmond, VA

#194 Nov 24, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Hunting isn't at the heart of the issue, nor is dog's rights.... The heart of the issue is personal property rights.
If the heart of the issue is personal property rights, which prevails? The trespassing "innocent" animal that was brought from another location with the intent to be loosed to hunt on somebody else's land? Or the threatened landowner upon whose stationary property the dog is running free?
Crazy

Ruckersville, VA

#195 Nov 24, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody is stating that life is fair.
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Personal property rights are inalienable, hunting, like all things you have to get a license for, is a privilege.
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The guy was probably a d-bag for killing the dog, but in all fairness, it's his property.
You can't shot a person on your property, unless your life is under threat. But a dog becomes his property to kill? He owns the land, but the rules are the rules, cut and dry. You have the right to run dogs, you have the right to retrieve those dogs. Not fair, but as real as it gets. I personally wouldn't want dogs running on my property, but also understand it is part of the territory in the country. Personal property only goes as far as the government allows. Ask the Indians, or my family that use to live in the national park. Not fair, but it is what it is.

I just think if he had that big of an issue, fight or kill the dog owner, not the dog. Only a coward would kill a dog unless the animal was a threat to his life.
Va Huntress

Columbia, MD

#196 Nov 24, 2012
Crazy wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't shot a person on your property, unless your life is under threat. But a dog becomes his property to kill? He owns the land, but the rules are the rules, cut and dry. You have the right to run dogs, you have the right to retrieve those dogs. Not fair, but as real as it gets. I personally wouldn't want dogs running on my property, but also understand it is part of the territory in the country. Personal property only goes as far as the government allows. Ask the Indians, or my family that use to live in the national park. Not fair, but it is what it is.
I just think if he had that big of an issue, fight or kill the dog owner, not the dog. Only a coward would kill a dog unless the animal was a threat to his life.
Crazy, Thank You. Couldn't have said better. Totally agree with you as I have the upmost respect for others property & do not take advantage of it. My grandfather also USE to live in the national park. No it was not fair, but it is what it is!
Dude

Winchester, VA

#197 Nov 24, 2012
Crazy wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't shot a person on your property, unless your life is under threat. But a dog becomes his property to kill? He owns the land, but the rules are the rules, cut and dry. You have the right to run dogs, you have the right to retrieve those dogs. Not fair, but as real as it gets. I personally wouldn't want dogs running on my property, but also understand it is part of the territory in the country. Personal property only goes as far as the government allows. Ask the Indians, or my family that use to live in the national park. Not fair, but it is what it is.
I just think if he had that big of an issue, fight or kill the dog owner, not the dog. Only a coward would kill a dog unless the animal was a threat to his life.
this has nothing to do with the dog and everything to do with property rights. Only a social liberal Obama voter apologist worth an entitlement complex would be against Castle laws.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#198 Nov 24, 2012
Va Huntress wrote:
<quoted text>
Crazy, Thank You. Couldn't have said better. Totally agree with you as I have the upmost respect for others property & do not take advantage of it. My grandfather also USE to live in the national park. No it was not fair, but it is what it is!
that doesn't make it just or right.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#199 Nov 24, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>this has nothing to do with the dog and everything to do with property rights. Only a social liberal Obama voter apologist worth an entitlement complex would be against Castle laws.
*with not worth
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#200 Nov 25, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>this has nothing to do with the dog and everything to do with property rights. Only a social liberal Obama voter apologist worth an entitlement complex would be against Castle laws.
the cspca should mediate this dispute
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-cruel-fac...
Sue

Springfield, NJ

#201 Nov 25, 2012
heh wrote:
<quoted text>
the cspca should mediate this dispute
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-cruel-fac...
All you DAM DOG HUNTERS need to read this article that "heh" left for you!! Bastards!
Colt 45

Warrenton, VA

#202 Nov 25, 2012
heh wrote:
<quoted text>
the cspca should mediate this dispute
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-cruel-fac...
To me the link you provided seemed to have another agenda besides the hunting with hounds,from reading this i believe they are against all types of hunting. and they are using this to get public opinion on their side.I myself have not seen starving,neglected hounds,at least not the ones that have come onto my property,I am sure there are some just the same as some bad hunters.As i have stated before i personnally do not care for deer hunting with dogs
but understand every one has different likes and dislikes.
Colt 45

Warrenton, VA

#203 Nov 25, 2012
Sue wrote:
<quoted text>All you DAM DOG HUNTERS need to read this article that "heh" left for you!! Bastards!
While I do not care for deer hunting with dogs this article
is against all hunting and using this to promote their anti hunting agenda.Citing cases like dogs getting caught up in barb wire,I have seen a number of deer getting tangled in fences and either break their neck or starve to death,are you going to ban fences? I do not have the numbers but expect there is more animal cruelty done in home environments than hunting dogs.
Ban Dog Hunting

Lexington, VA

#204 Nov 25, 2012
I say ban hunting with dogs will cure this problem. If you want to hunt, get off your lazy azz and get out there and do it on your own instead of using a dog. Quit sitting in your truck on the side of the road. Get your exercise and take your azz through the woods instead of letting a dog do the dirty work. Be a sportsman.
Zorby

Scottsville, VA

#205 Nov 25, 2012
Colt 45 wrote:
<quoted text>
To me the link you provided seemed to have another agenda besides the hunting with hounds,from reading this i believe they are against all types of hunting. and they are using this to get public opinion on their side.I myself have not seen starving,neglected hounds,at least not the ones that have come onto my property,I am sure there are some just the same as some bad hunters.As i have stated before i personnally do not care for deer hunting with dogs
but understand every one has different likes and dislikes.
I, too, have seen mistreated hunting dogs and some that were treated with great care and fondness. They are a great source of pleasure for some responsible, caring owners and trainers. I agree, the CASPCA certainly takes care of a lot of lost or dumped or abandoned hounds but they should NOT mediate this dispute because it is between SOME dog hunters and some property owners, especially concerning the advantage to scofflaws take of the law.

One thing nobody has mentioned is that the dogs, running loose, are at hazard, which their owners surely know, not just from angry property owners or from their getting lost or stolen. Thanksgiving evening, on the way north on Route 29, I saw two dead hunting dogs between WalMart and Ruckersville. It might be interesting to see how many hounds are killed by vehicles during hunting season - if VDOT keeps such statistics.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#206 Nov 25, 2012
Zorby wrote:
<quoted text>
I, too, have seen mistreated hunting dogs and some that were treated with great care and fondness. They are a great source of pleasure for some responsible, caring owners and trainers. I agree, the CASPCA certainly takes care of a lot of lost or dumped or abandoned hounds but they should NOT mediate this dispute because it is between SOME dog hunters and some property owners, especially concerning the advantage to scofflaws take of the law.
One thing nobody has mentioned is that the dogs, running loose, are at hazard, which their owners surely know, not just from angry property owners or from their getting lost or stolen. Thanksgiving evening, on the way north on Route 29, I saw two dead hunting dogs between WalMart and Ruckersville. It might be interesting to see how many hounds are killed by vehicles during hunting season - if VDOT keeps such statistics.
interesting take, who is responsible for the vehicle damage? I almost clobbered a couple of beautiful blue ticks on 522; one walked right out in front of me, these dogs were obviously healthy and well cared for.
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Also, should bad or negligent dog owner's be prosecuted?
SuzyQ

United States

#207 Nov 25, 2012
These hunting dog owners need to be investigated & reported for animal cruelty. The laws in Va need to be changed. Contact your government officials to get the ball a rolling!!!
Cville Woman

Esmont, VA

#208 Nov 25, 2012
@Zorby-- unfortunately, the mistreatment of hunting dogs is endemic in this area. One of the biggest problems is with abandonment at the end of hunting season. Sure, some hunters love their dogs and take great care of them, but many more only see them as a temporary means to an end. If the dog doesn't cut it, it's killed, or dumped far away in the woods, to become someone else's problem.

These hunters don't go to the shelters to get one of the many hunting dogs available there. Instead, they continually breed new dogs and abandon them, resulting in the current over-population problem in AlbCo and surrounding county shelters. This is a financial burden that all of us taxpayers are carrying.

Re this particular story, I hope someone can get the dates straight and also do an update on what's happening.
Dudette

Springfield, NJ

#209 Nov 25, 2012
Cville Woman wrote:
@Zorby-- unfortunately, the mistreatment of hunting dogs is endemic in this area. One of the biggest problems is with abandonment at the end of hunting season. Sure, some hunters love their dogs and take great care of them, but many more only see them as a temporary means to an end. If the dog doesn't cut it, it's killed, or dumped far away in the woods, to become someone else's problem.
These hunters don't go to the shelters to get one of the many hunting dogs available there. Instead, they continually breed new dogs and abandon them, resulting in the current over-population problem in AlbCo and surrounding county shelters. This is a financial burden that all of us
taxpayers are carrying.
Re this particular story, I hope someone can get the dates straight and also do an update on what's hap
pening.
Take pictures & then contact PETA & they'll come & investigate.

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