Albemarle Releases EMS Billing Rates

Albemarle Releases EMS Billing Rates

There are 88 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Nov 30, 2009, titled Albemarle Releases EMS Billing Rates. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

On Wednesday Albemarle County Supervisors are expected to vote on ambulance billing fees.

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constitutionalis t

Palmyra, VA

#21 Nov 30, 2009
I find this to be a harbinger of things to come.
I remember just a few weeks ago when Congressman Anthony Weiner, a Democrat from New York, addressed the House and compared the Health Care Bill to police and rescue squad services. He said that it is something you pay into through taxes but hope you never have to use.
Now we see on a small local scale this doesn't work yet they want to try it nationally with health insurance. It's just like our trash/recycling problem here now being considered for privatization.
cash or die

Stuarts Draft, VA

#22 Nov 30, 2009
wow...how sad...."RIP" off ! HEY I got a great idea here...WHY dosent the hospital that receiveds the patient PAY the ambulance bringing the patient !!??
UVA and MJH are rich enought to pay for this !!!
Concerned

Goode, VA

#23 Nov 30, 2009
cville native wrote:
<quoted text>Ask any rescue worker and they will tell you of the "sick" people calling 911 to get a ride downtown. They are a huge drain on the system and this fee-based system will quickly put an end to it.
It's sad if that's the case. However, a $20 or $30 charge would put an end to it, or a bylaw introducing a fine for anyone deemed to misuse the service. Charging $400+ is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Imcrazyitscool

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Dec 1, 2009
Did anyone ever stop to think that most of our critically ill are the poor, homeless and low income in Charlottesville. They simply cannot afford to go to the doctor and wait until they are so ill that going to the hospital is unavoidable. And most people who are making it right now, are only a step away from a medical disaster ruining them. I will not be donating to something that could very possibly give my health insurance another reason to raise it's premiums period. Oh and half the people they will serve, cannot afford to pay this bill and won't and so then what? Take them to court for collections and spend more money?

Since: Aug 09

Charlottesville, VA

#25 Dec 1, 2009
If the volunteers are going to start charging people, why not have ambulance services like taxi cabs? Private owners. That way you can shop (and compare) for a bargain while you are waiting to see if it's really a heart attack or indigestion you're having. The whole thing is incredibly wrong!
Imcrazyitscool

Charlottesville, VA

#26 Dec 1, 2009
Ollymo wrote:
If the volunteers are going to start charging people, why not have ambulance services like taxi cabs? Private owners. That way you can shop (and compare) for a bargain while you are waiting to see if it's really a heart attack or indigestion you're having. The whole thing is incredibly wrong!
there are private ambulance services such as lifecare and a few others. You're right though this is just plain wrong.
Tired of it

Free Union, VA

#27 Dec 1, 2009
My understanding from being involved in the process is that it will be compasionate billing. This means that they will bill you three times and if you do not pay that is the end of it. The county is actually after the insurance money. Look around and you will see that Louisa, Buckingham, and Nelson are currently billing for service.
Jack

Southfield, MI

#28 Dec 1, 2009
Ollymo wrote:
If the volunteers are going to start charging people, why not have ambulance services like taxi cabs? Private owners. That way you can shop (and compare) for a bargain while you are waiting to see if it's really a heart attack or indigestion you're having. The whole thing is incredibly wrong!
Hopefully the volunteers won't let the county make money off of the services they provide to the community for free.

But wait a minute... weren't some people bashing the volunteers on this very forum just a couple of months ago?
Good times

Blacksburg, VA

#29 Dec 1, 2009
Cville Native is 100% correct, a large percentage of EMS calls are non emergent. Repeat callers who use the EMS system as their personal health care and transport. The plain and simple truth is there is not enough units to cover the call volume and that is what's driving the revenue recovery plan. If the entire system was overhauled money would be saved. CARS spends a large amount of time and money transporting non emergent patients from Nursing homes. Why do you ask, well it's because the Nursing home calls and reports a patientd with trouble breathing and that response is an Engine from the closest station, a medic unit from the closest staion and a duty chief from CARS or ACFR. All for a non life threating medical issue that could have been handled by any one of the RN's on staff while they awaited private ambulance transport. So again you ask why do they call 911, well it's because we show up quick and take that resident of their hands. Until Albemarle and Charlottesville officals stop allowing abuse and manipulation of the system the problem of over extended resources will continue to occur. Collecting money will not stop the ever rising cost of ambulance service and make no mistake about it it's just another way to make money of the backs of the producers in this country.
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#30 Dec 1, 2009
Yess!!! Something that finally makes sense in Albemarle County...now only if CARS and WARS join in it can really work a lot better
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#31 Dec 1, 2009
its called insurance people....now if you only had some you wouldnt be that concerned and why dont you get all the facts about both sides before you start making judgements. Fire/Rescue and law enforcement is a lot more expensive then you really think.
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#32 Dec 1, 2009
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>
Hopefully the volunteers won't let the county make money off of the services they provide to the community for free.
But wait a minute... weren't some people bashing the volunteers on this very forum just a couple of months ago?
They Arent proffiting at all, they are just simply getting reimburssed.
Bologna Streets

Charlottesville, VA

#33 Dec 1, 2009
please stop
I can't use them as a taxi any more ?
Bologna Streets

Charlottesville, VA

#34 Dec 1, 2009
good thing my tax payer health insurance will pay for the rides now. Got to love Tricare for Life.
Its dah bomb, thank you taxpayers. Thanks GBIA and Patriot
MEME ME

Chesterfield, MO

#35 Dec 1, 2009
Its a daggon shame, they need, or think they NEED to do this .. Freeloaders as one commenter put it are few and far between...
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#36 Dec 1, 2009
Bologna Streets wrote:
please stop
I can't use them as a taxi any more ?
you shouldnt be to begin with
Imcrazyitscool

Charlottesville, VA

#37 Dec 1, 2009
tax paying citizen wrote:
its called insurance people....now if you only had some you wouldnt be that concerned and why dont you get all the facts about both sides before you start making judgements. Fire/Rescue and law enforcement is a lot more expensive then you really think.
I've got insurance, however the people who sit in the big offices where the corporation like to be picky about what they choose to cover. Soooooo most of money goes towards paying for my sons therapy for his autism which if he didn't get he would not be able to function and follow through with many of the activities of daily living you and I would take foor granted. Not only that but alot of people who usethe ambulance services cannot afford to pay, and have jobs that either do notprovide any insurance or provide it at an unaffordable cost. So when they don' pay who gets stuck picking up the slack?? And the cost of collections and court costs for collection?? THE TAX PAYERS! It'll be like DC people will just sart hopping in heir cars and driving themselves to the ER wrecklessly because they cannot afford to call the EMS. Maybe if we stopped building up around here beyond our means this would have never been an issue. It's time to move deeper into the hills, I for one don't want to see the fall out of all this. Another small town American place tunred into a suburban ghetto.
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#38 Dec 1, 2009
Imcrazyitscool wrote:
<quoted text> I've got insurance, however the people who sit in the big offices where the corporation like to be picky about what they choose to cover. Soooooo most of money goes towards paying for my sons therapy for his autism which if he didn't get he would not be able to function and follow through with many of the activities of daily living you and I would take foor granted. Not only that but alot of people who usethe ambulance services cannot afford to pay, and have jobs that either do notprovide any insurance or provide it at an unaffordable cost. So when they don' pay who gets stuck picking up the slack?? And the cost of collections and court costs for collection?? THE TAX PAYERS! It'll be like DC people will just sart hopping in heir cars and driving themselves to the ER wrecklessly because they cannot afford to call the EMS. Maybe if we stopped building up around here beyond our means this would have never been an issue. It's time to move deeper into the hills, I for one don't want to see the fall out of all this. Another small town American place tunred into a suburban ghetto.
You act like its a new thing that the taxpayers just started paying for. This ambulance service is actually built into most insurance policies. So the insurance companies have been profiting from it all along so get that right bud.
tax paying citizen

Wilson, NC

#39 Dec 1, 2009
riddle me this wrote:
The story noted the Hollymead & Monticello were on board. They have to be they be, they are County (non-volunteer)stations. They make it sound like they have accomplished something with these agencies.
actually they are combination stations primarily run by career personnel with volunteer supplemental staffing
bullcrapole

Winchester, VA

#40 Dec 1, 2009
cville native wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously whatever school system you attended failed you. It's their, not there, first off. Secondly, why post a comment which is completely false and unfounded? What are you basing your comments on? County vehicles driven outside the county cannot be used for personal use so if you see that, make a complaint. Police vehicles driven outside the county are for officers who hold call-out status, meaning they must be available 24hrs a day. And I'm pretty sure they aren't getting paid overtime, that's for sure. Anyway, back to the article. One of the main pushes, I would think, is the inordinate usage by people just needing a ride. Ask any rescue worker and they will tell you of the "sick" people calling 911 to get a ride downtown. They are a huge drain on the system and this fee-based system will quickly put an end to it. If you truly require emergency assistance, call 911. If you have a cold and want a ride to the ER, then this will be will a chafe. I'm sure there will be financial assistance made available to those that require a ride under real emergency circumstances, aside from the inevitable universal healthcare, which don't get me started on. I will continue to donate money, especially now that I now it is truly going to help people who need medical help.
So how exactly is this going to stop the free rides? If they do not pay there is nothing that can be done about it. What they are really doing is raising taxes and making insurance rates go up for the people that work.

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