Harrington Family Remembering Morgan Three Years Later

Morgan Harrington's parents continue their plea for her killer to come forward, three years after an Albemarle County farmer found their daughter's body. Full Story
cvillegordo

United States

#101 Feb 1, 2013
spotlight wrote:
Some guy herein appears oddly obsessed with persuading us that no crime occurred and that somehow a drunk girl, in fashion boots, wandered 9 miles, unseen, down Rt 29, in the cold October dark, over hills, dales, ravines, over fences, through gates, into the deepest, forlorn recesses of a private cattle farm and then died. Why would anyone posit something so patently implausible?
there it is - the inevitable "if you don't agree with the boogie man theory you must be somehow involved or know something" drivel. Where have you ever read that someone believe she wandered 9 miles down Route 29? I must have missed that.
Sonny

Norfolk, VA

#102 Feb 1, 2013
I Hate Penn State wrote:
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I'm not completely wrong.. Do some research into why players in the NHL all of a sudden all wear mouth pieces in this current day and age. Trust me it's not bc their dental HMO has increased over time. I've played hockey for 20 yrs at a very competitive pace,and the mouth pieces have very little to do with our teeth. In fact there aren't many players these days who don't have a few fake teeth in their mouth's. If the mouth pieces "only protected your teeth" ( you must be a chick,eh?) then why would they be mandatory to wear along with a full cage or a full visor? Surely, a puck coming at you at say 100mph isn't breaking through a cage or visor and going to knock your teeth out,lol. Are you picking up what I'm laying down woman? hahaha.. Look it up Ma'am..
Your information is outdated. The current concussion study being conducted by the NFL and including on site clinics in high schools across the country have concluded that mouth guards do not protect you from a concussion. A fall forward is unlikely to cause a concussion either. A backwards fall where the back of the head hits the ground and the bounces is most likely to cause a concussion. I have looked it up, participated in the study, and continue to read the progress of the study.

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Today

Charlottesville, VA

#103 Feb 2, 2013
Sonny wrote:
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Your information is outdated. The current concussion study being conducted by the NFL and including on site clinics in high schools across the country have concluded that mouth guards do not protect you from a concussion. A fall forward is unlikely to cause a concussion either. A backwards fall where the back of the head hits the ground and the bounces is most likely to cause a concussion. I have looked it up, participated in the study, and continue to read the progress of the study.
This is not true. Boxers get knocked out from the force of a blow to the lower jaw. It causes the brain to suddenly snap backward. Anything that causes the brain to have sudden acceleration or deceleration will cause it to forcefully move back and forth against the skull, possibly resulting in a concussion. A fall, with injury to the lower jaw most certainly has the potential to cause a concussion. Research has proven that even a blow to the chest could and has been documented to cause one.
Sonny

United States

#104 Feb 2, 2013
Today wrote:
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This is not true. Boxers get knocked out from the force of a blow to the lower jaw. It causes the brain to suddenly snap backward. Anything that causes the brain to have sudden acceleration or deceleration will cause it to forcefully move back and forth against the skull, possibly resulting in a concussion. A fall, with injury to the lower jaw most certainly has the potential to cause a concussion. Research has proven that even a blow to the chest could and has been documented to cause one.
You almost got it right. It's not the blow to the jaw but the sudden, violent snapping of the head either back (where the person hit usually falls backwards also) or to the side that causes the concussion. Falling forward and landing chin to ground leaves very little probability of the head moving backwards any more as its already back when you landed. Try this- lay on your stomach with your chin touching the ground . Now move your head back. How much can you move it in this position? Therein lies the reason for concussion being unlikely from this type of fall.
Today

Charlottesville, VA

#105 Feb 2, 2013
I did get it right. If someone lands forcefully on their chin there is a very sudden DECELERATION from the chin hitting and the brain hits the skull, probably more than once. The brain can move from the force of a deceleration injury just as much as acceleration.
Concerned

Arlington, VA

#106 Feb 2, 2013
Eh. Don't really need a concussion to explain her behavior. The girl was already acting weird before the alleged chin scuff: bumming sips off the patrons behind her, dancing wildly, and kissing her friend goodbye -- probably because she probably figured on leaving. They admit to her drinking, but sounds like additional intoxicants were in play. I doubt the fall was responsible for her unfortunate decisions to leave the venue and hitch hike. Not that she should have been murdered for said decisions, as if that needs to be said, but she sure didn't do herself any favors. Just a really horrible day, as her own mother describes it.

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CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#110 Feb 6, 2013
Sutton wrote:
To be productive and not get into a personal war of words, the injury does have some significance but not what bloggers or most seem to claim. The chin injury did two things:
1] allowed Morgan’s blood to drip upon a special prized garment that was loaned to her. Presenting a likely reason for someone to lick a cloth and dab the stain away. Thus, DNA transfers.
2] Under the influence of booze, cough medicine, ecstasy [unless she was ripped of with a fake] and other mind altering drugs she would have felt very paranoid about her appearance. Thus escalating her vulnerability and in a small way contributing to her bad decisions.
Other than those two, the rest is solely a PR campaign to distract from her actions. Her actions are not that uncommon, but as we all know some people are social drinkers, some have serious problems. Actually there are functioning drug users, others that spiral down.
It is a given that she had a history of pulling the batteries from her phone. The timing and so called “NO MORE PINGS” only relate that she was headed into another of like episodes [at least 7 other times] to cut off annoying and intrusive, domineering [in her opinion, often expressed] attempts to contact her. After she received the one call, she just did what she had done dozens of times before.
It is better to just realize that it was a new moon in harvest season [high stress] and she either found herself with the help of someone knowing what was near her final resting spot and OD’d : or she approached fully aware or unknowingly and fish hooks, boobie traps and reactions under STRESSFUL circumstances lead to her demise. Maybe she was killed as an intruder or witness to the operation. Not for rape, not to beat her. No Kennedy type assassination no sperm rag, no actions of the slaves, no CIA, no UVA or Law Enforcement conspiracies!
People who know, know where she wanted to go, where she was asking to get to. The above is why Rader and Dino know that she was with a person or persons that knew the destination she was seeking, but were not the “party” that she was with in the last hours.
So, just stop the wild speculation! Let the person or people feel that they can finally ease their conscious and tell what they know. This person or persons did not kill her. They are afraid!
I can assure you that people that grow female Kush plants do not do it where they live. All they need is a source of water [big time in the tree grove], seclusion and access to railroad or power line right of ways.[ I have seen where B.C. Kush seeds were planted heavily in Virginia [ great yield, no odor].
It is so simple to see. I am sure our Unicorn, Led Zeppelin influenced young woman would be very interested in some perfectly cured colas. Either someone wanted to impress her, or she knew where she was going. AND anyone knows October, you have the cream of the crop! New Moon, no light to be seen approaching. She was already buzzed! Come-on People it so simple!
The people or person that Rader and Dino are trying to reach, need to hear that we know if they explain it to the FBI, all of these things make sense and they will not be crucified for just telling the truth. No lynching, no pitch-forks and torches!
Ground control to major Tom
Ground control to major Tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

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Yura Butt

Alexandria, VA

#112 Feb 6, 2013
"Sutton" Did you forget to take your psych meds today? Why are you being so defensive? What are you guilty of?

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Lost

Charlottesville, VA

#113 Feb 7, 2013
The facebook page for Morgan’s supporters is beginning to adopt a strange tone. Kenny J is telling people who are calling VSP to “make sure you know what you are talking about.” This from Amanda StClair:“Yep.....we do not have time to deal with false or misleading information. No more assumptions. WE WANT FACTS. Nothing more and certainly NOTHING LESS!”

What is this “we” stuff? Are the amateurs now running the investigation? Are the police giving them information?

Who in authority is asking them to make these statements?

After coming to Charlottesville many times and begging people for help, it appears they are slamming the door shut, intended or not.

Remove foot from mouth, but not before making everyone feel they aren’t good enough to meet your standards on tips.(Shaking head.)

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Lost

Charlottesville, VA

#115 Feb 7, 2013
sutton wrote:
@ LOST [you are a coward, what screen name will you use next]
Perhaps you should give up on your insane jealousy of Ms St.Clair.
As far as authorities asking the Facebook page people to make statements for them- that has never been the case, ever.
Kenny is very gullible, that is not a crime. He is also a kind man and feels he is doing something to help. Ms St.Clair does not necessary agree with "the shinny girl" type of PR.
She could care less, she wants the truth, be glad you have her input.
Kenny is the type that did a little hero worship with people in the public eye, Lance Armstrong quotes were always in his signature. Doesn't make him a bad guy, just maybe a little too involved in the hoopla and not enough in the reality. Seems to be something you have in common with him.
See, they use their names. Means they take responsibility and she will tell you that she fully expects criticism. You a peace of shaky crap post anonymous bull and think your cute.
Seems I agree with Kenny's "make sure you know what you are talking about.” So, I like Amanda say "Yep"!
Shake your head get the lice out and then try using your real name and see how gallant you are.
So what you got a tip? Really? You just want to be a part of something big. I have seen your type for over 40 years and you need some help! Get some, then use your real name and stop being so jealous of Amanda. She is real, you are a joke!
Sutton, perhaps you should give up on the guilt you feel. Not everyone is the person you feel guilty about. I am not who you think I am. Nor is anyone else. Get a life!

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Lost

Charlottesville, VA

#116 Feb 7, 2013
And, sutton,or whatever you're name is, if they're using you to deflect criticism, that's like burning down the house to hide a stain on the curtain. If they're not, you're an embarrassment.

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Cville Bordo

Charlottesville, VA

#118 Feb 7, 2013
he’s this sutton:

http://truthbeknown-unbroken.blogspot.com/201...

This was posted on another topix he went off on. And, he’s done his share of personally insulting Kenny J and Amanda, all you did was bring up a question about a facebook quote and he went into orbit. Don't worry, this is his usual behavior.

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Cville Bordo

Charlottesville, VA

#121 Feb 7, 2013
sutton or s jones: Now that we’ve run away everyone else with our hateful outburst, let’s talk about our own far-fetched theories. Hey, didn’t you read what was posted above that Amanda said? Or were you too busy insulting the poster to read it. They don’t want to waste their time on any more theories. They only want facts regarding what happened to Morgan.

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wondering

Charlottesville, VA

#123 Feb 7, 2013
"Look there were very very good reasons that the friends strongly believed she would arrive back at the place that she shared. Even as late as Halloween, I mean the picture painted by the parents is just not even close to the truth. Want the truth, tell the truth or stop playing the victim. "

Amen on that one, Sutton.

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Cville Bordo

Charlottesville, VA

#124 Feb 7, 2013
Enjoy yourself, Sutton. I thought, seeing your curiously hateful defense of Amanda StClair that you seemed the jealous one, not the poster "Lost" that you accused of being jealous. All "Lost" did was post a quote and some fair questions, I thought. But, I guess you wanted the board to be all yours. Enjoy it. It's all yours now.

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CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#127 Feb 8, 2013
M Sutton aka S Jones wrote:
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You do have a good point or two, Kudo's!
Just a note Gordo after your link seems like you may see me in this video, and it has no viruses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =swGBlDn_yiIXX
See if you read what you directed others to see, you should know that we are very detail oriented. We have simple spred sheets with columns. So after 3 years we have IP's ISP's, anonymizer toe-prints, electronic signatures and much more that able to any United States citizen for free. Read the the little agree boxes that all check, it is all legal, see we pride ourselves on being legal.
So, as an example 7 of the user names used in the last 100 messages are reoccurring, not talking about you. That with the patterns, information supplied by Blink, FM old info, Hawes's public lashings and information obtained by us when my life was threatened.
Now see, if there is any citizen that has a screen name and due to privacy for their family or themselves, there is absolutely no problem. Understood why a single woman or mother does not want their real name listed.
But see there is thing called the Constitution and as long as that use of anonymous screen names does not infringe on another's rights that is fine. But when using an anonymous name and attacking a person with a real name those violators have no rights!. I can show you the results.
Sadly, this does not help find the truth about what happened to Morgan.
From Morgan's Library:
"They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through.
They choose the path where no-one goes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
We like those who indulge in period pieces, such as dresses, we like to feed bulldogs, shed a tear with a cousin of Dakota, we like Canadian Bacon, Alaska King Crab Legs, we don't like cats named Sammy, we don't like Ginger Bread, don't care for muffler shops, physics and bible codes.We say this with clarity and know a questionnaire, an observer and have seen it painted in stone. I love banana bread and just a tip, don't buy Bonds! Have a good week-end and don't drink the cool-aid.
Yes sometimes we do compare notes!!!!!!!!!!
tip
of
the
HAT !
Ground control to major Tom
Ground control to major Tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
(Ten) Ground control (Nine) to major Tom (Eight)
(Seven, six) Commencing countdown (Five), engines on (Four)
(Three, two) Check ignition (One) and may gods (Blastoff) love be with you

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Native

Charlottesville, VA

#128 Feb 8, 2013
What's that line from "The Green Mile"...."I think this boy's cheese has slid off his cracker"!

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Christian

Evansville, IN

#130 Feb 9, 2013
I have never seen a family reach out to people who touch them back and not call.

Your not being told of my continued attempts and to communicate with you, are you? I guess if you are that request and my contact number would be used. Have faith and just ask them for the number that was given to them by a person who demanded they forward me to you. We should review this but we should privately and you can proceed from there.

Thanks
00 0000 0
Call the number and we can talk
Big picture needed

Sun Prairie, WI

#133 Feb 10, 2013
Everyone seems to be focused on what could have been done to help that particular girl. I'll tell what could have been done long in advance to minimize the number of ALL girls attacked by sexual predators. It's really simple, three things:

1.) Police need to take rapes seriously. There was a big recent study on human rights and sex crimes that showed a low percentage of rapes are investigated or even reported by police in the US, largely because they don't want to believe that they really happened. Better training is needed badly!

2.) When the police ask for help, people need to respond. Several people (at least) know each and every rape suspect personally, and letting your old classmate/ex-boyfriend/cousin/ uncle get away with it puts everyone in the community in danger, including your own wife/daughters/mother/sisters. TURN 'EM IN!

3.) The Federal government needs to take responsibility to fund the processing of ALL rape kits in a timely fashion, and additional oversight to ensure that all are investigated. Especially all DNA results should be databased. These are serious crimes, and require a good database as one of its major tools.

One more thing -- I know a little more about the Harrington thing than some people, and one of her attackers MAY HAVE (not proven yet) abducted an underage girl recently. Now, why haven't his "friends" turned him in yet? I guess they want to wait until he takes one of their own kids.
Rectitude

Charlottesville, VA

#135 Feb 11, 2013
M Sutton: Considering how much your posts differ from each other (as in appearing to be from two different people) at varying times why would you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously? How could anyone with any ability to think logically entertain any of your ideas for more than two seconds? Your credibility is shot, and you may say you don’t care, but if you don’t, why post here or anywhere else? With your continued vitriolic attacks on Dr. Harrington, why should/would anyone believe anything from you concerning this case has any merit? Believe it or not, this is a serious post, I wonder how you could think, after all your posts that have been removed from other places, after viewing the posts above, and some other topix posts on this subject, how you think anything you say seriously could not be viewed as an attempt to deceive or just annoy?

This is such a sad case for these parents. I know they want justice for their daughter. I just wonder how much your posts have helped.

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