Fluvanna Parents Petition Supervisors for School Funding

Fluvanna County Schools are once again working with a thin budget. Now, parents are stepping in to help ensure the schools receive funds to meet their basic needs. Full Story
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#41 Mar 18, 2013
Minor wrote:
Tax Rates will have to rise over 25% just to cover the huge increase in spending the schools are demanding. We need real Republican solutions in November to deal with Fluvanna schools and the constant demand to spend and spend!
Prisons or schools, your choice.
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#42 Mar 18, 2013
George S wrote:
The economy is very bad. People are out of work, out of money, have lost their homes.
There is no conspiracy in reducing school funding, there simply is no mountain of cash to pay for it.
These parents were 'at Friday's game'???
Cut the unimportant sports nonsense, and concentrate on education.
The world does not need more illiterate, homeless jocks.

I would argue that we cannot afford not to invest in education. I agree that we spend too much for the results we get, but we should focus more on results. Education is the last place we should be cutting, and again; LABOR IS A MARKET.

1.High school dropouts are four times as likely to be unemployed as those who have completed four or more years of college; (non-tax payers)

2.Graduating from high school will determine how well you live for the next 50 years of your life. High school graduates earn $143 more per week than high school dropouts. College graduates earn $336 more per week than high school graduates ($479 more per week than high school dropouts); (higher earners pay more taxes)

3.Dropouts are more likely to apply for and receive public assistance than graduates of high school; (part of the so called "moocher class")

4.Dropouts comprise a disproportionate percentage of the nation's prison and death row inmates. 82% of prisoners in America are high school dropouts; (don't pay taxes, are moochers, and cost tax payer resources)

5.School districts all over the country provide alternative programs for students who are not successful in the usual school setting. The best programs in the country are featured in our Model Programs Database.(more takers)

http://www.dropoutprevention.org/family-stude...
Tea Party Realist

Charlottesville, VA

#43 Mar 18, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Prisons or schools, your choice.
You sound like someone familiar with both. Are you a teacher they sent to prison for being a pedophile?
Tea Party Realist

Charlottesville, VA

#44 Mar 18, 2013
Dude wrote:
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I would argue that we cannot afford not to invest in education. I agree that we spend too much for the results we get, but we should focus more on results. Education is the last place we should be cutting, and again; LABOR IS A MARKET.
1.High school dropouts are four times as likely to be unemployed as those who have completed four or more years of college; (non-tax payers)
2.Graduating from high school will determine how well you live for the next 50 years of your life. High school graduates earn $143 more per week than high school dropouts. College graduates earn $336 more per week than high school graduates ($479 more per week than high school dropouts); (higher earners pay more taxes)
3.Dropouts are more likely to apply for and receive public assistance than graduates of high school; (part of the so called "moocher class")
4.Dropouts comprise a disproportionate percentage of the nation's prison and death row inmates. 82% of prisoners in America are high school dropouts; (don't pay taxes, are moochers, and cost tax payer resources)
5.School districts all over the country provide alternative programs for students who are not successful in the usual school setting. The best programs in the country are featured in our Model Programs Database.(more takers)
http://www.dropoutprevention.org/family-stude...
I take the previous comment back. You are a shill for the teachers union!
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#45 Mar 18, 2013
Tea Party Retard wrote:
<quoted text>
I take the previous comment back. You are a shill for the teachers union!
There is no teacher's union in Virginia.
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#46 Mar 18, 2013
Tea Party Retard wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like someone familiar with both. Are you a teacher they sent to prison for being a pedophile?
Nope; I'm a war veteran, socially conscience libertarian, with nationalistic tendancies. There is probably no better investment than the one we make towards this nation's future, that is if you care about this nation and not your own self interest.

"Report warns US educational failures pose national security threat"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/12/report-w...
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#47 Mar 18, 2013
*tendencies
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#48 Mar 18, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>There is no teacher's union in Virginia.
There isn't a teacher's union in Virginia...
really now

Charlottesville, VA

#49 Mar 18, 2013
2014 Will Be A Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You want some cheese with that whine? Anybody can teach, the government already has your agenda laid out for you. All teachers need to be good at is babysitting.
Sounds like you are highly qualified..why aren't you teaching?
really now

Charlottesville, VA

#50 Mar 18, 2013
2014 Will Be A Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You want some cheese with that whine? Anybody can teach, the government already has your agenda laid out for you. All teachers need to be good at is babysitting.
Let's do the math...babysitting pays about $6-8 per hour.
Let's cut it in half to $3.50/hr.
20 kids in the class (small I know)
That's $75.00/hr times 7.5 hours = 562.50 per day
562.50 x 5 days a week = 2812.50 per week
times 4 weeks = 11,250 / month times nine months =$101250
Bet your teachers aren't paid ANYWHERE close to that. I'll quit now and take that job at half salary ($50,625) So you see, your argument is moot.
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#51 Mar 18, 2013
really now wrote:
<quoted text>Let's do the math...babysitting pays about $6-8 per hour.
Let's cut it in half to $3.50/hr.
20 kids in the class (small I know)
That's $75.00/hr times 7.5 hours = 562.50 per day
562.50 x 5 days a week = 2812.50 per week
times 4 weeks = 11,250 / month times nine months =$101250
Bet your teachers aren't paid ANYWHERE close to that. I'll quit now and take that job at half salary ($50,625) So you see, your argument is moot.
I've used that argument, and my wife will tell you that "let's do the math" is my phrase.

Keep in mind, baby sitters don't have to have degrees, certified, nor do they have to teach anything.
really now

Charlottesville, VA

#52 Mar 18, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I've used that argument, and my wife will tell you that "let's do the math" is my phrase.
Keep in mind, baby sitters don't have to have degrees, certified, nor do they have to teach anything.
To steal from Phil Hartman..."You are correct, sir!"
Tax Nightmare

Charlottesville, VA

#53 Mar 18, 2013
concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
25%? Are you kidding? Again, a falsehood. These posts that spread wrong information just gather negative opinions of the school system. Get your facts straight, go to a meeting a find out the truth.
Actually, to cover everything the schools are demanding, tax rates would go up 28 to 29%. Fluvanna taxpayers are in for a soaking!
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#54 Mar 18, 2013
Tax Nightmare wrote:
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Actually, to cover everything the schools are demanding, tax rates would go up 28 to 29%. Fluvanna taxpayers are in for a soaking!
Considering property values have dropped by 33%, it's a wash.
bopper

Collinsville, VA

#55 Mar 18, 2013
Hey obama can close down more va and wva coal plants invest in more solindra solar but screw whats really needed, anyone remember all the hundreds of billions of obama stimilus that was going to build roads and bridges? I guess chyrslar and gm in china got more than planned for america
wayne

Stafford, VA

#56 Mar 18, 2013
I should not have my taxes raised, due to the county not allowing companys to move in to bring in more taxes.stop pushing the land owners to pay for something that are kids are grown and gone!
concerned

Charlottesville, VA

#57 Mar 18, 2013
Erin wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Concerned. I would if I thought I could get the information I am talking about from a board meeting. I think those numbers would need to be researched. Probably a freedom of information request would have to be filed.
http://flucoblog.com/overwhelmed-elementary-s...

http://flucoblog.com/how-the-supervisors-migh...
concerned

Charlottesville, VA

#58 Mar 18, 2013
Tax Nightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, to cover everything the schools are demanding, tax rates would go up 28 to 29%. Fluvanna taxpayers are in for a soaking!
http://flucoblog.com/how-the-supervisors-migh...

http://flucoblog.com/overwhelmed-elementary-s...
Bleeding Schools

Charlottesville, VA

#59 Mar 19, 2013
I am so sick of the attacks on Fluvanna schools I could scream! For all you out their just itching to take away a future from children unable to defend themselves with a vote, and doing it with lies about massive pay raises and bloated staffs, here is what is really going on in those schools.

Due to the constant attacks on the school budgets in the past two years, 87 positions have been eliminated in addition to pay being lower than 2007. Tomorrow night, the school board and teachers will go begging the board of supervisors for enough funds to only cut another 33 positions. This is the starting point of negotiations with a board of supervisors whose chair has already vowed this budget dead on arrival and promised deep and meaningful cuts!

The school budget is not bloated. It in shock from the many cuts it has suffered, and teachers are being labeled as greedy for only cutting an additional 6% of the workforce!
Annie P

Dillwyn, VA

#60 Mar 19, 2013
The spending levels and per-pupil expenditures for Fluvanna in FY2013 match nearly the same figures for Fluvanna in FY2007.

Per Pupil FY2007 $9,251
Per Pupil FY2013 $9,249

Operating Budget FY2007: 33,881,908
Operating Budget FY2013: 34,783,002

The FY2007 figures come from the Virginia Department of Education Archives. The FY2013 figures come from the Fluvanna County Public Schools numbers (SB docs for March 2013).

Why were the FCPS able to operate without a crisis situation in 2007 but is in a crisis situation in 2013 when the per pupil expenditure is almost exactly the same and the operating expenses are $900,000 more now than they were in FY2007?

So, what changed? I'd really like to know.

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