Proposed Human Rights Commission Seek...

Proposed Human Rights Commission Seeks Power, Raises Questions

There are 15 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 27, 2013, titled Proposed Human Rights Commission Seeks Power, Raises Questions. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Charlottesville's major justice organizations are urging City Council to move forward with plans to create a human rights commission.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at NBC29 Charlottesville.

Since: Oct 12

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Jan 29, 2013
No no no no no no!

This is a bad idea.
Read This and Weep

Baltimore, MD

#2 Jan 29, 2013
cvillemom

Gladys, VA

#3 Jan 29, 2013
Agree with you, Mr Butcher. These are just a bunch of vigilantes, seeking broad powers that are ordinarily reserved for law enforcement and the courts. There is no need to waste taxpayer dollars on a commisiion that is redundant. If there is true discrimination, take your case through EEOC or other channels.
I suppose if a businessman hires his son to work, someone will complain discrimination because he didn't hire a (minority of your own choosing) and the businessman will end up spending a ton of money trying to defend himself. I wouldn't blame any business froming moving out to the county if City Council moves forward with this.
JCS

Prospect, VA

#4 Jan 29, 2013
Mr-Butcher wrote:
No no no no no no!
This is a bad idea.
I agree. This is a bad idea! Their are already institutions in place, why create an additional and redundant organization? This organization wants to bypass the already established administrative and civil procedures already in place.
JCS

Prospect, VA

#5 Jan 29, 2013
Mr-Butcher wrote:
No no no no no no!
This is a bad idea.
I agree. This is a bad idea! There are already institutions in place, why create an additional and redundant organization? This organization wants to bypass the established administrative and civil procedures already in place.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Jan 29, 2013
Another colossal waste of taxpayer money. The state has all the avenues of redress one would need and there are more lawyers than Carter has little liver pills waiting in the wings to file suit for anything. Reverse discrimination happens every night downtown but nobody wants to address that.
Walt Heinecke

Midlothian, VA

#7 Jan 29, 2013
The Rutherford Institute is wrong. Shame on you for reporting misinformation.

The Virginia HUman Rights Act allows local human rights commissions to investigate and conduct hearings if need be. This is all laid out in the Act ( http://chr.vipnet.org/act.html ) and has been practiced in Prince William County, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, for years without incident. The Rutherford Institute is just afraid of turf encroachment and appears to be conservative.

We have not proposed just enforcement but also that the Commission have the authority to study, gather data and advise Council on legal forms of institutional discrimination in the criminal justice system, the public health system, policing, etc. We have also urged Council to roll the Dialogue on Race into the Commission's charge.

With all due respect to Mr. Hulbert, The Dialogue on Race Steering Committee and his own Human Rights Task Force voted in a majority vote for the type of Commission with enforcement powers. This is a matter of fact and in the recorded minutes. This is the third time this type of commission has been proposed and the Cit Council has nixed it twice before. The time has come for real fairness in our town. How many times will the City Council ignore the democratic vote of its advisory bodies like the DOR and HRTF?

In fact Human Rights Commission with the enforcement power authorized by conservative Virginia Human Rights Act allows Commissions to conduct investigations of alleged human rights violations in employment, housing, public accommodations, credit, and private education is the discrimination was caused because of gender, age, race, religion, pregnancy, disability. These commissions such as Prince William County and others in NOVA follow state approved procedures that include protecting the privacy of parties, attempts at mediation and conciliation, and only when these fail conduct hearings and if these procedures fail, issue a finding that has weight in court. Most cases, within these procedures are settled by alternative dispute resolution and therein lies the effectiveness.

The Chamber of Commerce is using scare tactics when it uses words like tribunal. Just ask the Chamber in Prince William County who report no problems wit such Human Rights Commissions.

The proposed commission would do what the EEOC already is allowed to do, they can call witness and ask for records when there is a formal hearing. The Sky has not fallen. Don't buy the scare tactics of the Chamber, a political action committee. What are they so afraid that their members are discriminating that they fear a little sunshine? No one in Alexandria, Arlington Fairfax, or PWC seem to have the same fear as our local chamber.

If the City, schools, etc have such a great system for resolving such complaints how come the HRTF collected so many complaints from these employees. The Commission will be able to objectively deal with these cases because it will be a citizen commission not an internal advocate in the City bureaucracy.

I just saw the film Slavery by another name about post-civil war peonage labor system as a part of an MLK event. In the discussion it was stated that businesses and corporations really created that system of continued, "legal" slavery. on that note see how the Martinsville Chamber killed their Human Rights Commission:

http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.c...

Why can people in NOVA get the full protection of Virginia law by having human rights commissions but those of us to the south cannot?

Since: Oct 12

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Jan 29, 2013
"I just saw the film Slavery by another name about post-civil war peonage labor system as a part of an MLK event. In the discussion it was stated that businesses and corporations really created that system of continued, "legal" slavery. on that note see how the Martinsville Chamber killed their Human Rights Commission:"

@Heineke

Are you trying to suggest that "legal" slavery is still a problem for C'ville?
truth

Bassett, VA

#9 Jan 29, 2013
What a bunch of crap! This town needs to be burned and start over!
been there done that

Fairfax, VA

#10 Jan 29, 2013
The reason that they claim success in alexandria arlington etc is

1) no government worker is ever going to say thier agency should be disbanded.

2) Busineses are afriad and just roll over ad give the fired worker unemployment and severance and a clean reference so they don't ger falsely accused.

The reason that it does not work is because employers avoid protected classes whenver they can because they know they can't fire them. If they do hire one and they turn out bad they put up with them out of fear of being called a racist. It makes for a horriffic workplace as the other employees begin to hate working with a loser who can;t be fired. The whole place goes downhill.

Don't talk to the government workers full of dogooders with power to destroy busineses and people, talk to the employers who live under the thumb of people like walter hieneike and Kristin Szakos who have no Clu what its like to run a business with this kind of threat hanging over their head.

How can an employer be required to disclose private conversations and transcripts of other people who applied for the job at a public or even private hearing. Who pays when someones private info gets out? The city? Who pays when someone is falsely accused by a dogooder like walter and the jury givers them a cool ten million? Will the city take on that liability? And who is going to speak at the funeral of a guy who is falsely accused and offs himself because he is innocent and people like walter and kristin put him up for public spectacle. Will the city send flowers or take pictures of the pall beares to make sure they are a diverse group?
Local

United States

#11 Jan 30, 2013
Employees should be acquired, retained and promoted solely based on competency, experience, professionalism and performance. Not because of quotas and fear of unflattering labels.
IBDAMED

Winchester, VA

#12 Jan 30, 2013
Just another way for the city to waste more of the taxpayer's dollars. There are already laws and agencys to handles these problems if they do exist. After hearing the proposed budget thrown out at city council I wonder who's nephew needs a job? Why else would you duplicate services?
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Jan 30, 2013
Nothing like diverting the irresponsibility of the black community to address its own problems than to find fault with the white business community. Everyone is scared witless to say anything derogatory about how the black community is failing itself. Crime, drugs, alcohol, and most important a concerted effort NOT to pursue higher education.

Since: Oct 12

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jan 30, 2013
sez you wrote:
Nothing like diverting the irresponsibility of the black community to address its own problems than to find fault with the white business community. Everyone is scared witless to say anything derogatory about how the black community is failing itself. Crime, drugs, alcohol, and most important a concerted effort NOT to pursue higher education.
The sad irony in all of this is how the Black Community has become subjugated to and enslaved by the Democratic Party.

If we really want to address inequality and racism in our society we need to look at the manipulative actions and policies of the Left; from the great society to obamacare and everything in between in an honest manner.

This council, if created, will NEVER address these injustices. It will only further them.

For that reason, NO NO NO NO NO NO!
Local

United States

#15 Jan 31, 2013
Mr-Butcher wrote:
<quoted text>
The sad irony in all of this is how the Black Community has become subjugated to and enslaved by the Democratic Party...
Additional irony is that a major portion of the Democratic Party was the party advocating slavery during the civil war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_U...

The republican party was formed by anti-slavery activists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_R...

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