SadBlueEyes

Auburn Hills, MI

#1 Jan 1, 2008
A few weeks before being found dead with a bullet in her head, a Scottsville-area woman e-mailed a close friend to say that her boyfriend had slammed her head into a wall during a fight.

Two days before authorities discovered the body of Nora McGillivray, 45, she spoke to her best friend, John Amato, by telephone. Amato said she sounded “weird” but said he didn’t push it because he thought he might upset her.

With tears in his eyes more than three months later, Amato says if she had only told him about the abuse, he would have helped her.

The Buckingham County Sheriff’s Office discovered the bodies of McGillivray and her boyfriend, 39-year-old Tim Fortna, of more than two years, both with gunshot wounds to the head in their home at 291 Belle Meade Lane on Sept. 25.

The Sheriff’s Office ruled it a double suicide, but the investigation is still open as authorities wait for the results of the autopsies, said Buckingham sheriff’s Investigator Tim Cox.

The Medical Examiner’s Office in Richmond ruled Fortna’s death a suicide but the results of McGillivray’s autopsy are still pending.

Amato and Jennifer Jenkins, the friend McGillivray e-mailed, both say they can’t believe that what happened Sept. 25 was a double suicide. They say that McGillivray would never have killed herself.

Amato said McGillivray had a history of alcoholism and depression, but that after seeing a therapist, she was “happy.” He called her a “chicken about pain,” adding that she would never have shot herself.

Jenkins said Fortna had a history of drinking problems and abusing McGillivray.

The Buckingham County Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court has no record of domestic incidents or restraining orders between McGillivray and Fortna.

Jenkins said she spoke to McGillivray only weeks before the shooting about leaving Fortna.

In a Sept. 12 e-mail to Jenkins, McGillivray wrote:“Things are horrible here. Just pure contempt for each other.”

McGillivray wrote that Fortna apologized for slamming her head into the wall that morning and said she shouldn’t have tried to wake him up.

Police showed McGillivray’s suicide note to Jenkins and Amato, which they don’t believe she wrote willingly.“I told police, if someone held a gun to my head, I’d write a note too,” Jenkins said.

The note made references to God but both Jenkins and Amato said McGillivray didn’t believe in God. It also had grammatical errors and several misspellings, which Amato said was unlike her.

Jenkins said there were other discrepancies.

Jenkins went to the Medical Examiner’s Office to ask officials to consider the possibility that Fortna killed McGillivray, but she hasn’t heard anything.

“If I honestly thought she committed suicide, I could have some closure,” Amato said.

An employee at the Medical Examiner’s Office did not know how much longer it would take to complete McGillivray’s autopsy.

“ozzy rocks”

Since: Dec 07

charlottesville,virginia

#2 Jan 3, 2008
Stay strong, You sound like a good friend, But do not blame yourself. If only really can destroy a persons life. She was a adult and could of walked away. Or again maybe not if he truly killed her Good Luck and God speed.
John

Bryn Mawr, PA

#3 Mar 14, 2008
Actually, I knew both of these people very personally. Tim was a great guy, and every time he talked about his family, he got the most gentle look in his eyes. Nora, on the otherhand, has attempted suicide before. You seem to have your story seriously twisted and backwards. Try getting all the facts next time, and don't fill in the blank spots with assupmtions.

“ozzy rocks”

Since: Dec 07

charlottesville,virginia

#4 Apr 4, 2008
John wrote:
Actually, I knew both of these people very personally. Tim was a great guy, and every time he talked about his family, he got the most gentle look in his eyes. Nora, on the otherhand, has attempted suicide before. You seem to have your story seriously twisted and backwards. Try getting all the facts next time, and don't fill in the blank spots with assupmtions.
I live in Va. dumb ass not in yankville. I can say I know Dave Matthews, does it make it true? so climb back into your trailer and learn to read the daily progress that's where us here dumb asses get our info. You got his side her side now maybe the truth will come out. In VA. you are guilty until proven innocent so go to your medicine cabinet and down a few blues boys a chill the fuck out.... oh learn to spell it help us people.{intelligent wow to big of a word?} have a beautiful life. better yet GET ONE.....
Michael

Patchogue, NY

#5 Apr 8, 2008
John, I was a friend of Nora's from college (University of Arizona). Do you know where I can find out more about what happened?
Cindy

Greensboro, NC

#6 Apr 25, 2008
Nora was a dear friend of mine during our childhood in Waukegan, IL. Can anyone help me find out more about what happened? We've been out of touch since she went to college. My sympathy to everyone who knew and loved her.
Cindy

Greensboro, NC

#7 May 10, 2008
Would someone mind posting Nora's mother, Dawn's, address--or where she's living? I tried to write to her but the letter was returned to me. Thanks in advance.
Torture Sweetie

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Jun 27, 2008
Ok folks, here is the skinny and I'll try to be nice to most of you.

Cindy, I'm sorry but her Meem (Dawn) and Tee passed on already. Meem was a number of years ago from a heart attack and Tee from old age. Nora and I took our "round the country" trip shortly before Tee died and she luckily got to see her one more time before. That was her and my last trip together.

Michael, my email addy will be at the bottom of this if you want to know that happened then email me there and I'll send you a full accounting.

Ozzy Fan, all I can say is Kudos and thanks.

John in PA, don't try to defend that sick SOB. I met him a few times and if you found what we did cleaning out the apartment then you'd know. I personally did the investigation since the fat-assed cops of Fuckingham County didn't want to do the jobs they swore themselves to. I couldn't even get them to run a poundage test on the trigger of the gun to see if it was standard or if Tim had adjusted it. As it is, WE have to coroners report for Nora and it shows NO powder residue on her hands. At least the cops bagged the hands properly.

What it comes down to is this: Someone very special was taken from us. She didn't do this to herself and despite everything the local sheriff's department did to screw things up, we found out the truth. Now all I'm doing is waiting to see her again.
Torture Sweetie

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jun 27, 2008
Oops... Sorry Michael, the email is johnny_amato@yahoo.com
Jeffrey

Tunkhannock, PA

#10 Jan 21, 2009
Hey John in Doylestown - Nora never attempted suicide before. I've known her for 30 years and oddly, your name never came up. So much for your personal connection. You need to sling some mud, find a foe and connect, you sad little man.
Barbara

Wirtz, VA

#11 Jun 26, 2010
Nora and I were best friends when she moved to Lexington, VA from Illnois.I am deeply saddened to hear of this news. We hit ot off right away. Her mother has passed away and sio has h er father. She was an only child.
Cindy wrote:
Would someone mind posting Nora's mother, Dawn's, address--or where she's living? I tried to write to her but the letter was returned to me. Thanks in advance.
Love

Doylestown, PA

#12 Sep 12, 2011
Tim was an amazing guy and he would never do anything like that.
Love

Doylestown, PA

#13 Sep 12, 2011
John wrote:
Actually, I knew both of these people very personally. Tim was a great guy, and every time he talked about his family, he got the most gentle look in his eyes. Nora, on the otherhand, has attempted suicide before. You seem to have your story seriously twisted and backwards. Try getting all the facts next time, and don't fill in the blank spots with assupmtions.
You don't know how right you are. I loved them both

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