Albemarle Supervisors Approve New Cell Towers in Scottsville - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA New...

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If AT&T is your cell phone provider, you're about to get better coverage down in Scottsville.

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Aug 3, 2011
 
You can put one on my land at Red Hill. I need some service around there. Walnut Creek park will also get service.
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"Teachers are using iPads in the classroom. School bus routes are tracked by GPS and bus drivers clock in and out using iPod touches. Those devices are powered by AT&T cellular.

Supervisors say the move to more mobile, paperless devices saves the county money but only when the technology is actually working. Often times near Scottsville, it doesn't."

Well thank Steve Jobs for getting ATT's eyesores built.

Ipads in the classroom? Every heard of Wi-fi?
GPS to see where the bus might be? gimme a break.

Bus drivers log in and out using their ipod touches? I've got news for you. Ipod touches run on wi-fi, not cellular signals. It ain't there yet

http://news.softpedia.com/news/iPod-touch-Cel...
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Aug 3, 2011
 
The Albermarle County Supervisors are nodding their heads, taking this hook, line and sinker, yeah, these need to be built these for the bus drivers.

Not wait a minute, why the h@ll do we have to buy a bus driver a Ipod touch again?
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#4
Aug 3, 2011
 
Sweet! All I can say is bye, bye Embark! US Cellular and Net 10 are the best in those areas and Buckingham.
phorealyo

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Aug 3, 2011
 
For what it's worth, Scottsville school is right on 20 also, so all 3 will be along Rt 20, not just two of them as the article states.

And I agree with the itouch critics. If the bus has GPS, then the garage should know when they start their route and when they park.
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Pam Moran and Bruce Benson (just left ACS)have been funding these "must haves" for years. Take a good luck at the school budgets. I have argued for years these are "nice to haves" in a good economy but not necessary, so put the money in classroom teacher salaries. It fell on deaf ears. Pet projects for tech happy superintendents.
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ummm wrote:
"Teachers are using iPads in the classroom. School bus routes are tracked by GPS and bus drivers clock in and out using iPod touches. Those devices are powered by AT&T cellular.
Supervisors say the move to more mobile, paperless devices saves the county money but only when the technology is actually working. Often times near Scottsville, it doesn't."
Well thank Steve Jobs for getting ATT's eyesores built.
Ipads in the classroom? Every heard of Wi-fi?
GPS to see where the bus might be? gimme a break.
Bus drivers log in and out using their ipod touches? I've got news for you. Ipod touches run on wi-fi, not cellular signals. It ain't there yet
http://news.softpedia.com/news/iPod-touch-Cel...
Thanks to tech madness we now use million dollar sledgehammers called networks to kill the equivalent of house flies.
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Aug 4, 2011
 
Whether this will mean better coverage for most people DEPENDS....AT&T uses the cellular technology known as GSM. It is not compatable with the more common technology known as CDMA. Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular and Ntelos all use CDMA. So..if you have a CDMA phone and are sranding in front of a GSM tower, you are out of luck. If AT&T will be the tower owner (sometimes other companies build towers and rent space out)then the agreement should require them to rent space to other carriers.
Ipads and Ipods- these operate on wi-fi and would not be relevant in the tower issue.
GPS- this works off of the GPS satellite system, HOWEVER, does require a cellular transmission system to transmit the data to the end user at the bus shop. If the present GPS system uses CDMA, then again, GSM towers will not help.
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Utter lunacy regarding the tech for the school system.

Inexpensive cell phones applications will run vehicle tracking applications. There is no need for an i-pad.

There's no need for 3g Ipads, schools should have wi-fi that is sufficiently encrypted for staff use only.

How mych taxpayer money is going to be wasted on AT&T data plans that could be completely avoided by practical tech usage?

Nothing but a boondoggle, I say!
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Aug 4, 2011
 
There is an urgent need for the ability to connect to communication service along the Route 20 corridor. Many of us in the "Black Hole" are anxiously waiting to connect.
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Aug 4, 2011
 
underserved wrote:
There is an urgent need for the ability to connect to communication service along the Route 20 corridor. Many of us in the "Black Hole" are anxiously waiting to connect.
An "urgent need"? How did people in your area ever cope with life 100 years ago?
How about 5 years ago?
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Captain Obvious wrote:
Utter lunacy regarding the tech for the school system.
Inexpensive cell phones applications will run vehicle tracking applications. There is no need for an i-pad.
There's no need for 3g Ipads, schools should have wi-fi that is sufficiently encrypted for staff use only.
How mych taxpayer money is going to be wasted on AT&T data plans that could be completely avoided by practical tech usage?
Nothing but a boondoggle, I say!
I'm going to correct some factual mistakes in the main article and comments located here.

ACPS uses AT&T so the AT&T towers will work with school administrators' phones and with our GPS systems.

Bus drivers have iPod touches for their time clocks so they can clock in and clock out appropriately from remote locations and so they they receive employee communications via email. These are not 3G and have nothing to do with the new towers. They operate via WiFi and data is uploaded automatically as bus drivers approach one of our buildings. The iPod touches are less expensive than providing a smartphone to a driver to achieve similar functionality, and drivers can communicate via radio.

iPads in the schools are WiFi and have nothing to do with the new towers. Technology used in the classroom for learning opportunities does not require cellular service and did not play into this request or decision.

The request was all about cellular service to those areas of the county, so that our administrators have communication services in an emergency and our GPS services to track our buses works for all families in Albemarle County, regardless of location.

No taxpayer dollars are being spent to install the towers. AT&T is paying to install the towers and rent the land where they are located.
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Aug 4, 2011
 
Maury Brown wrote:
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I'm going to correct some factual mistakes in the main article and comments located here.
ACPS uses AT&T so the AT&T towers will work with school administrators' phones and with our GPS systems.
Bus drivers have iPod touches for their time clocks so they can clock in and clock out appropriately from remote locations and so they they receive employee communications via email. These are not 3G and have nothing to do with the new towers. They operate via WiFi and data is uploaded automatically as bus drivers approach one of our buildings. The iPod touches are less expensive than providing a smartphone to a driver to achieve similar functionality, and drivers can communicate via radio.
iPads in the schools are WiFi and have nothing to do with the new towers. Technology used in the classroom for learning opportunities does not require cellular service and did not play into this request or decision.
The request was all about cellular service to those areas of the county, so that our administrators have communication services in an emergency and our GPS services to track our buses works for all families in Albemarle County, regardless of location.
No taxpayer dollars are being spent to install the towers. AT&T is paying to install the towers and rent the land where they are located.
I'm a little confused about the statement:
"our GPS services to track our buses works for all families in Albemarle County, regardless of location. "

How do you keep track of the buses through GPS? Is it through their ipod touches, or some other system?
Maury Brown

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Aug 4, 2011
 
emergency wrote:
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I'm a little confused about the statement:
"our GPS services to track our buses works for all families in Albemarle County, regardless of location. "
How do you keep track of the buses through GPS? Is it through their ipod touches, or some other system?
It is not through the iPod touches, but through GPS units on each bus that show real-time and historical positioning of each school bus. Data is also collected for how fast a bus is going, whether it stopped or has lights on/door open, etc. This allows us to monitor where our buses are and to notify parents if they are delayed. See this NBC 29 article from September 2009 http://www.nbc29.com/story/11135904/gps-insta...
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Aug 4, 2011
 
Maury Brown wrote:
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It is not through the iPod touches, but through GPS units on each bus that show real-time and historical positioning of each school bus. Data is also collected for how fast a bus is going, whether it stopped or has lights on/door open, etc. This allows us to monitor where our buses are and to notify parents if they are delayed. See this NBC 29 article from September 2009 http://www.nbc29.com/story/11135904/gps-insta...
So those ipod touches purchased for each driver are basically a time card, and used for nothing else?
Maury Brown

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So those ipod touches purchased for each driver are basically a time card, and used for nothing else?
And employee communication -- email and Internet access when connected to WiFi. Supervisors and the School Division communicate with employees regularly via email. Clocking in and clocking out when they begin their work day at their bus (whether at their home or at a bus parking location) and ending their day when the route is over, using the pocket time clocks, allows drivers to paid for the actual time they work, keeps them from driving somewhere else to clock in/out (adding more miles/fuel use to the bus), requires no manual data entry, and ensures accuracy of reporting.
Lucy

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#17
Aug 4, 2011
 
It never ceases to amaze me how the news people in this town hide what real ongoing issues are being discussed. These towers were not a big deal at the board meeting, Anne Mallek and her cronies stalling the approval for the building of the 29 bypass were! The whiners were out in force with their signs and Ken Boyd, I have to give it to him this time, was trying to do what the majority of people here want, approve the 29 bypass, get the dirt moving, and get out of the way!

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