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silver fox

Westmoreland, TN

#1 Dec 27, 2013
Is anyone else frustrated with what they are doing to the square? I do not like the so called improvements.
I guess i'm old fashioned but I thought it was ok just the way it was. Now they have taken more parking places and made the square harder to drive through.
I do not go to any of the stores on the square, I only go to the Dollar Store ( that's just because I can park on the lower side).
Would like your opinions.
Waste of money

Cub Run, KY

#2 Dec 27, 2013
I hate it!!
Happycamper

Westmoreland, TN

#3 Dec 27, 2013
I thought at first the street was being widened. When I drive by I see one person working and the rest of the employees are watching what the one is doing. Sheesh. I believe now what they've done is upgrade the water piping system. Second, I believe a wheel chair ramp has been added at each side where the steps were once located. The American With Disability's Act which was enacted in 1990 says, "There has to be a Reasonable Accommodation" in given situations. Reasonable Accommodation means necessary and appropriate modifications and adjustments not imposing an undue burden, where needed in a particular case, to ensure to persons with disabilities the enjoyment of exercise on an equal basis with others and all human rights & fundamental freedoms. The City of Scottsville is not in compliance with federal law by not helping enable people in wheel chairs with access to the area stores on the square that are in wheel chairs. A lawsuit perhaps was brought forth by someone or a class action suit to the City of Scottsville was levied for No Reasonable Accommodation for access on the square. This is only my speculation. Call the city of Scottsville. They should give you the answer you are looking for! The people in wheelchairs do deserve access...do they not?
Someone

Lafayette, TN

#4 Dec 27, 2013
ADA 1990 don't pertain to existing structures. They were not forced into the upgrade but it is nice that they would do it I think some ppl that live in a few if them buildings might be disabled.
Happycamper

Westmoreland, TN

#5 Dec 27, 2013
Someone wrote:
ADA 1990 don't pertain to existing structures. They were not forced into the upgrade but it is nice that they would do it I think some ppl that live in a few if them buildings might be disabled.
"SOMEONE," you are so very wrong. This does not have anything to do with the structures themselves. ADA stands for Americans with Disabilities Act.

Barden vs. The City of Sacramento Another example, filed in March 1999, claimed that the City of Sacramento failed to comply with the ADA when, while making public street improvements, it did not bring its sidewalks into compliance with the ADA. Certain issues were resolved in Federal Court. One issue, whether sidewalks were covered by the ADA, was appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that sidewalks were a "program" under ADA and must be made accessible to persons with disabilities. The ruling was later appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which refused to hear the case, letting stand the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court.

Under Title III of the ADA, all "new construction" (construction, modification or alterations) after the effective date of the ADA (approximately July 1992) must be fully compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines (ADAAG)[1] found in the Code of Federal Regulations at 28 C.F.R., Part 36, Appendix A.

"Someone," you are ignorant of the withstanding federal law guidelines. There is no grandfather clause regarding the new construction on the square.

Yes, there are some disabled people living in the nearby area that are wheel chair bound! They will greatly benefit from the handicapped access being constructed. Those of us that drive and it takes a couple of extra seconds to get through the square or might have to walk a little further when parking....imagine if you were in a wheel chair!

I too am a 100% disabled veteran! Game, Set, Match Point! Better yet, Touchdown!
Awful

Westmoreland, TN

#6 Dec 27, 2013
It's absolutely awful! There will be no more parallel parking down that first block of East Main on any side. They've brought the sidewalks out so far it's narrowed the street. I swear it's inches away from the vehicles driving down the street. Who cares about flower planters? That idiot Jamie Boler needs to be fired. All he's concerned about anyway is promoting Sweet Life (which I've RARELY seen anyone at as it is) and Red Elephant and that stupid new restaurant...that no one will be able to park near now thanks to his genius!
i know right

Casey, IL

#7 Dec 27, 2013
The only part of the square that are getting remodeled are the sides that the gay looking town designer management jaime Boler has businesses on and that is red elephant in the corner and the sweet life that his mother in law runs. Instead if putting SO much in redesigning it put something IN the stores worth going to. Something for SCOTTSVILLE PEOPLE. And yes I believe a wheel chair could go all the way around the square last I looked.
Someone

Lafayette, TN

#8 Dec 27, 2013
Happycamper wrote:
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"SOMEONE," you are so very wrong. This does not have anything to do with the structures themselves. ADA stands for Americans with Disabilities Act.
Barden vs. The City of Sacramento Another example, filed in March 1999, claimed that the City of Sacramento failed to comply with the ADA when, while making public street improvements, it did not bring its sidewalks into compliance with the ADA. Certain issues were resolved in Federal Court. One issue, whether sidewalks were covered by the ADA, was appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that sidewalks were a "program" under ADA and must be made accessible to persons with disabilities. The ruling was later appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which refused to hear the case, letting stand the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court.
III of the ADA, all "new construction" (construction, modification or alterations) after the effective date of the ADA (approximately July 1992) must be fully compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines (ADAAG)[1] found in the Code of Federal Regulations at 28 C.F.R., Part 36, Appendix A.
"Someone," you are ignorant of the withstanding federal law guidelines. There is no grandfather clause regarding the new construction on the square.
Yes, there are some disabled people living in the nearby area that are wheel chair bound! They will greatly benefit from the handicapped access being constructed. Those of us that drive and it takes a couple of extra seconds to get through the square or might have to walk a little further when parking....imagine if you were in a wheel chair!
I too am a 100% disabled veteran! Game, Set, Match Point! Better yet, Touchdown!
Look at your own post!!
Barden vs. The City of Sacramento

"while making public street improvements"

III of the ADA, all "new construction" (construction, modification or alterations) after the effective date of the ADA (approximately July 1992) must be fully compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines (ADAAG)[1] found in the Code of Federal Regulations at 28 C.F.R., Part 36, Appendix A.
"Someone," you are ignorant of the withstanding federal law guidelines.

So what you just said supported what I said. While making street improvements the city of Sacramento failed to comply with the ADA. Key words while WHIlE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS!!!!
Thanks for all the info that has ultimaly proven me correct. If they wanted to work on the sidewalks it would now have to comply with ADA guidelines.

Key word on your second copy and past "New Constrution." Anyway I think we agree it was a good thing to get up to that code but yes it takes away parking.
Happycamper

Westmoreland, TN

#9 Dec 27, 2013
While making street improvements Sacramento did not comply with the ADA. Meaning the streets of Sacramento were not improved to help the handicapped! Sacramento was NOT compliant in ADA federal laws. Sacramento lost the appeal in federal court and had to comply with making the streets safe for the handicapped. We are both saying the same thing. We are trying to say the same thing just interpreting the words differently!

If it is true about Jaime Boler having a business and a mother in law that have existing business's on the square? Is that not a HUGE conflict of interest? I wonder who got the kick back on this contract?

Local Good ole boys I bet!
Awful

Westmoreland, TN

#10 Dec 27, 2013
And what about that stupid new rooftop lighting they've put on all the buildings on the square? How much did that cost? Was it necessary? NOPE! Does all this 'beautification' BS they've got going on bring any jobs to this town? How about working harder on bringing jobs and industry in, instead of trying to prettify everything up! Does anyone in charge of anything in this town have a brain?
silver fox

Westmoreland, TN

#11 Dec 27, 2013
I just know that it does make it harder to get through. Thought that tractor trailer was gonna run over me.
I think pretty is fine, and I do want people in wheelchairs to have access, I just wish they could have designed it a little better. They could have given access and fixed water lines, and still not taken up so much room.
There is a lot of big trucks that come through the square, from what I saw this morning I don't believe that 2 tractor trailers could get through at the same time.
The city will be complaining when a car runs over their flower beds.
Wish they would do something useful.
silver fox

Westmoreland, TN

#12 Dec 27, 2013
Awful wrote:
And what about that stupid new rooftop lighting they've put on all the buildings on the square? How much did that cost? Was it necessary? NOPE! Does all this 'beautification' BS they've got going on bring any jobs to this town? How about working harder on bringing jobs and industry in, instead of trying to prettify everything up! Does anyone in charge of anything in this town have a brain?
I couldn't agree with you more. I don't believe they think this out very well. Someone give them some money and they are like a child and the money burns a hole in their pocket. They will spend it on anything,
Wish I knew who voted on this silly stuff, I would exercise my voting rights.
Awful

Westmoreland, TN

#13 Dec 27, 2013
The semis shouldn't even be coming through the square in the first place. It can be bypassed, if they would just put up signs directing them around. They'll REALLY be fussing when the semis are running over their pretty new flowerbeds, ruining the sidewalks and busting the bricks. And as far as who votes on the stuff, it sounds like there is no voting--they just let Jamie Boler do whatever he wants.
Glasgow scotty

Cub Run, KY

#14 Dec 27, 2013
I'm glad other people think the square beautification is a mess. Where do they expect people to park for this new restaurant. Some of the food pictures I've seen look alot like Sweet Life's food. I didn't care for the lights on the bldg. All I could think of was "they put these stupid lights up & charge the same for water & sewer.
Scottsville resident

Westmoreland, TN

#15 Dec 27, 2013
This was her post on Heart of Scottsvilles FB 12-28-2013 Lindsey Boler wrote, It's been a little inconvenient jk but it's totally going to be worth it! The workers and Roger Cherry have been so respectful and nice. And the handicap ramp at the far end is going to be so nice for my sister. She had nowhere to get on the old sidewalk with her wheelchair.
Lol

Westmoreland, TN

#16 Dec 28, 2013
Can you toads just appreciate that scottsville is just improving!!! Yes we need jobs and we might get them here but appreciate that we are getting nicer things now
Glasgow scotty

Cub Run, KY

#17 Dec 28, 2013
Nicer things come with a price tag & not everyone wants to pay.
Awful

Westmoreland, TN

#18 Dec 28, 2013
Wheelchair bound people had a place to get on the sidewalk. There is a ramp at the other end of that quadrant. It just was too far for Lindsey to have to walk to her mommy's store.
Someone

Lafayette, TN

#19 Dec 28, 2013
Glasgow scotty wrote:
Nicer things come with a price tag & not everyone wants to pay.
Take your A$$ back to Glasgow if things are so bad here. No one and I mean no one in ther right mind listen to or care what any Glasgow Scotty fans think of our square. If all you ppl have such great ideas get off topix and go to counsel meetings or run for office wher your openion might make a difference. On here no one cares and infact it is fun to get on here and make fun of you b/c you think coming on here changes anything.
Jkl

Lafayette, TN

#20 Dec 28, 2013
For all of you saying that the square improvements are only being made to help The Red Elephant and The Sweet Life, they are in the process of building and moving their locations to property next to the New Mexican restaurant. They're only going to be on the square for 3 or 4 more months so these improvements won't be benefiting them.

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