republicans cause gov shutdown (BABYS)

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was a republican

Scottsville, KY

#1 Oct 1, 2013
republicans cause shutdown because they care not for the working class people. they have never purposed any bill to help with the high cost of health care. they talk big but never truly help the middle class people.
Dont Lie

United States

#3 Oct 1, 2013
was a republican wrote:
republicans cause shutdown because they care not for the working class people. they have never purposed any bill to help with the high cost of health care. they talk big but never truly help the middle class people.
You've never been a Republican, fibber.

Most democrats aren't the middle class anyway. They're mostly the welfare class.

If you want health insurance, work and pay for it like I do.

Since: Sep 11

Scottsville, KY

#4 Oct 1, 2013
was a republican wrote:
republicans cause shutdown because they care not for the working class people. they have never purposed any bill to help with the high cost of health care. they talk big but never truly help the middle class people.
Dude you are as smart as a box of rocks.
Nobodyudno

Campbellsville, KY

#5 Oct 1, 2013
I didn't notice either side, Republican or Democrat, mentioning that they would be happy to refuse their annual, automatic COLA raise in December.

And what a statement the World War II vets made. So proud of them.
Dem

Scottsville, KY

#6 Oct 1, 2013
Cry Baby Republicans. Its always the Democrats fault right. Republicans shut it down.
Tea Party

United States

#7 Oct 1, 2013
Dont Lie wrote:
<quoted text>You've never been a Republican, fibber.

Most democrats aren't the middle class anyway. They're mostly the welfare class.

If you want health insurance, work and pay for it like I do.
Most today are looking for the free handout, they are not going to work to pay for health insurance. Unlike you or I who obviously pay their way and do not work the system for all it's worth.

Since: Oct 10

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#8 Oct 1, 2013
If someone hadn't told about it, I wouldn't have known.
yep

Scottsville, KY

#9 Oct 1, 2013
yep

Since: Apr 13

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#10 Oct 1, 2013
The Republicans run 1 half of 1 third of the government and they are the ones who shut the government down? How can one half of one third have so much power?

Reid is not interested in getting anything done. Reid thinks that if he just keeps sending bills back to the House the Republicans will keep looking bad. It is not going to work this time. The American people know what is going on and they will see through the games.
FBC

Lafayette, TN

#11 Oct 1, 2013
Dont Lie wrote:
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You've never been a Republican, fibber.
Most democrats aren't the middle class anyway. They're mostly the welfare class.
If you want health insurance, work and pay for it like I do.
That last line "work and pay for it like I do"... IS THE TRUTH! It's all on the working stiff to support everybody else! Uncle Sam is gonna' break the ole working stiff's back one of these days, then we will really fall!

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Since: Feb 13

I see you!!

#12 Oct 1, 2013
FBC wrote:
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That last line "work and pay for it like I do"... IS THE TRUTH! It's all on the working stiff to support everybody else! Uncle Sam is gonna' break the ole working stiff's back one of these days, then we will really fall!
Very well put

Since: Sep 11

Scottsville, KY

#13 Oct 1, 2013
FBC wrote:
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That last line "work and pay for it like I do"... IS THE TRUTH! It's all on the working stiff to support everybody else! Uncle Sam is gonna' break the ole working stiff's back one of these days, then we will really fall!
Yea that is right, we also support all of "Uncle Sam".

Did I hear wrong, but the republicans and it seems some Democrats refuse to increase the debt ceiling so the government can print and borrow more money to spend the keep the entitlements going.

I also understand the the "great Obamacare" premiums will be four hundred for a single to six hundred and more for more dependents with a six thousand deductible. And just who that don't have and can't afford insurance now, will be able to afford the "great Obamacare. And many Democrats seem to think that this is a great deal. Go figure.
Dem

Scottsville, KY

#14 Oct 2, 2013
Ok you don't like it when we give medical cards to people that can't afford health care. Now you don't like it when we make people that can afford it buy it get it. Both is to keep everyone else from paying the med bills for the ones that can not or will not pay. The Doctors and hospitals are going to get paid even if they raise the prices of the rest of us to pay for the others. If you don't like making people step up to the plate so to speak just how would you smart people do it.

Since: Sep 11

Scottsville, KY

#15 Oct 2, 2013
Dem wrote:
Ok you don't like it when we give medical cards to people that can't afford health care. Now you don't like it when we make people that can afford it buy it get it. Both is to keep everyone else from paying the med bills for the ones that can not or will not pay. The Doctors and hospitals are going to get paid even if they raise the prices of the rest of us to pay for the others. If you don't like making people step up to the plate so to speak just how would you smart people do it.
But this isn't going to make it to where the ones that don't have insurance now to be able to afford it any better now than they could before.

And the ones that were sick, disable, or couldn't afford and qualified are going to get a medical card, ninety percent already had one before Obamacare.

You will qualify to pay your own premium when your employer figures out that it is cheaper to pay the penalty and let you pay your own insurance of $400 plus a month for $6,000 deductible. Can you afford to shuck that out?

Have you priced it?

Since: Sep 11

Scottsville, KY

#16 Oct 2, 2013
The calculator that I looked at; for a family of 3, 40,000 income, the premium was 6600plus (550 a month). With no more that 10 G out of pocket.
Dem

Scottsville, KY

#17 Oct 2, 2013
tinponyrider wrote:
<quoted text>But this isn't going to make it to where the ones that don't have insurance now to be able to afford it any better now than they could before.
And the ones that were sick, disable, or couldn't afford and qualified are going to get a medical card, ninety percent already had one before Obamacare.
You will qualify to pay your own premium when your employer figures out that it is cheaper to pay the penalty and let you pay your own insurance of $400 plus a month for $6,000 deductible. Can you afford to shuck that out?
Have you priced it?
No I have not priced it. I have always had Ins if I paid for it or my employer did. No way this would affect an employer to pay Ins. they have never been required to pay Ins. Its been only a benefit package offered by some of the better places to work. People have got this so turned around they don't know what is going on. Sometime you have to be handheld to get you threw the bad times. What we have had is sure not the best thing fore everyone.
Dem

Scottsville, KY

#18 Oct 2, 2013
tinponyrider wrote:
The calculator that I looked at; for a family of 3, 40,000 income, the premium was 6600plus (550 a month). With no more that 10 G out of pocket.
That's quiet a bit less than mine cost. I hope it drives everyone's down. Ins is out of hand.

Since: Apr 13

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#19 Oct 2, 2013
Please don't forget that single payer is the goal of this administration. Everyone getting free health insurance is what he wants. No matter what it does to the actual health care we receive or how high our taxes have to be to pay for it. It is not about making insurance affordable. It is about raising the cost so that the government is the only one who can afford to pay the premiums.
When the government pays the premium they can justify making choices for us. How long will smoking be allowed if the government says that smoking is costing them too much money? How long will we be allowed to eat what we want when the government says that eating cheeseburgers raise the cost of healthcare? In New York the mayor has already tried to outlaw soft drinks and salt because he thinks that people should not consume them.
The progressives that have been elected feel that they know what is best for us and they are going to push us kicking and screaming into a country that no one recognizes.
I guess I'm one of those big babies but I would like for my grand children to have a little freedom left when they get to be my age. If a shutdown is the only way then so be it. If they are not at work they are not try to come up with new ways to "help me".

It is a shame that these 537 people who were elected to make the tough choices have put party ahead of working together to lead our country.

TPR people don't understand. If I am unable to afford insurance now, how can I afford $500 a month. When I get my tax bill and I didn't get my insurance because I couldn't afford the $500 a month, where am I going to get the $1500 for the fine? If my boss pays the bulk of my insurance and I pay only a portion and he realizes that a fine will cost him a few hundred dollars while my insurance is costing him thousands, how long will it take for him to cancel my insurance and let me figure it out? If I cannot find a job because for the past 6 years the leadership of our country has put the economy on the back burner, how am I going to pay the premium or the fine?

Come on folks, do you think that the Republicans are the problem on this? The Dems have controlled our country for the past 5 years and what have they done to move the country forward? Of course they have had one half of one third standing in their way.

Since: Sep 11

Scottsville, KY

#20 Oct 2, 2013
Dem wrote:
<quoted text>No I have not priced it. I have always had Ins if I paid for it or my employer did. No way this would affect an employer to pay Ins. they have never been required to pay Ins. Its been only a benefit package offered by some of the better places to work. People have got this so turned around they don't know what is going on. Sometime you have to be handheld to get you threw the bad times. What we have had is sure not the best thing fore everyone.
The point is that that policy is basically nothing. Consider the deductible, and how much will they benefit such of a policy?

When a person has a insurance policy, doesn't help them if it's not beneficial in other ways than a catastrophic situation.

It seems to me, to be rather hard to be boosting about something when the details aren't even there to truly understood. When the details are revealed is when the rude awaking will occur.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#21 Oct 2, 2013
tinponyrider wrote:
<quoted text>The point is that that policy is basically nothing. Consider the deductible, and how much will they benefit such of a policy?
When a person has a insurance policy, doesn't help them if it's not beneficial in other ways than a catastrophic situation.
It seems to me, to be rather hard to be boosting about something when the details aren't even there to truly understood. When the details are revealed is when the rude awaking will occur.
Are these the same details that Nancy spoke of?

Say I was 27 again. I am a fairly healthy guy. I haven't been to the doctor for anything more than a check up. I work two jobs, one at garage with my father and the other delivering pizza. I am paying my rent, the lights are still on and there is a little food in the fridge. I get a flyer in the mail and it tells me that now I can afford insurance because they passed some law. Then they tell me that if I dont buy this insurance policy I will need to send the IRS some money to pay a fine. So I go online and find a policy that I might be able to afford if we cut out a few things. I get a policy that has a low premium beacuse I cant afford a high payment. Trouble is I have to pay the first $6000 then the policy starts paying. So my payment runs $500 a month ($6000 a year) and I have to pay the first $6000 in bills? Tell me again why I need insurance?
This is the senario that is playing out in households across America.

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