Before and after marriage soe guys do call their girls sluts -- I don't believe it's a very mature thing to do, but it happens.<quoted text>
He wasn't using her as a wife...I don't know any called 3 whole wonders, slut, or told they will feel like they were raped, etc., etc., it's crystal clear how he was treating her.
His texts and the phone call are proof.
I think TA was a soul-abusing jerk too. He was not the sophisticated S&M player like the kind 'LA Guy' is referring to, but he must have been really good at 'motivational speaking' which at scams like PPL means 'a closer.''Closers' run over people, won't take 'no' for an answer and seek to get what they want regardless of the harm they cause. To me that's why he was dangerous. Not b/c he was some brilliant S&M deviant who turned all women into jelly.TA wasn't your average jerk. He was a dangerous, soul abusing, very strong man.
The "deserve to die" question is from fantasy land.
Only in the movies, can you write a script for exactly how a fight will go. In this case, Jodi said she was attacked by him and she fought for her life. Adrenaline is very powerful and combined with the will to survive, all bets are off.
IMO, you are buying into JA's lies. TA didn't attack her. JA lost control over her rage at him. A person in a rage can convince themselves that their victim 'deserves' what they're getting b/c she gave him everything he wanted and she still wasn't good enough for him. Maybe she wanted to give him one last chance to realize how perfect she was for him, and if he didn't, then he gets what she has planned for him.
You're ignoring the obvious -- TA wasn't into little boys, he never was. Very creative lie from JA! TA was addicted to JA too. TA's feelings of ambivalence about her must have been huge, but he probably saw her as so compliant to his desires that she would be around for sex on the side even if he married someone else. Absolutely agree with you re: his Mormon cover life -- that's a lie he had to maintain, pick the young virgin wife, have children -- but TA had already badmouthed JA to his friends and family, therefore how could he backtrack about her now? JA was unacceptable in their eyes.Remember, he was angry that she wanted to go to a Bishop regarding his pedo interests, etc. She was already moving on...Ryan Burns is proof.
The only person in this scenario, with a reputation and an entire lifestyle to lose, had their real life become known, was Travis.
I think men who have seen this kind of man in action, can pick them out faster than any woman. And, once a woman has bonded with a man, the ability to resist them can be as bad as a drug.
Why do people ignore the obvious????
I'm a mother of an adult unmarried son, I don't like how young adults 'hook up' and have casual sex b/c it can be so emotionally devasting to some of them. I have heard most of the taped phone calls and texts from TA to JA. It doesn't seem as if he had much respect for her beyond using her for sex, but Jodi could have said to him: hey clown, keep your hands off me, no sex before marriage or at least acknowledged monogamy. Got it, buster. He couldn't used her if she didn't allow it.Please, at least listen to the entire taped phone call, and read his texts to her, if nothing else.
Any good father can tell you what he was.