Why I want an Assalt Rifle

Why I want an Assalt Rifle

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I OK

Jackson, MO

#1 Dec 20, 2012
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with "hunting" it has to do with the right to defend yourself. When it was written it was written to address the British Colonial Monarchy which had a single King ruling over his subjects. It's intent was to acknowledge that individuals not just kings had an already existing right to defend themselves.
The founders wrote the 2nd amendment to secure that right, and to ensure that no king could ever “rule” over subjects in America. That’s made clear by this quote:
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
---Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).
Don't let the polititians take your guns
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#2 Dec 20, 2012
I OK wrote:
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with "hunting" it has to do with the right to defend yourself. When it was written it was written to address the British Colonial Monarchy which had a single King ruling over his subjects. It's intent was to acknowledge that individuals not just kings had an already existing right to defend themselves.
The founders wrote the 2nd amendment to secure that right, and to ensure that no king could ever “rule” over subjects in America. That’s made clear by this quote:
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
---Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).
Don't let the polititians take your guns
That's great, but first you should maybe learn to spell "assault" correctly.
loln00b

Edwardsville, IL

#3 Dec 21, 2012
^...You mean, you came into this thread, ignored all of what the TS had to say, and insisted that he/she should spell *one* word properly?
In fairness

Jackson, MO

#4 Dec 22, 2012
loln00b wrote:
^...You mean, you came into this thread, ignored all of what the TS had to say, and insisted that he/she should spell *one* word properly?
In fairness, the opening comment was pretty ridiculous and not really worth the time of a response.
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#5 Dec 22, 2012
loln00b wrote:
^...You mean, you came into this thread, ignored all of what the TS had to say, and insisted that he/she should spell *one* word properly?
Well, it's hard to take someone serious if they aren't educated enough to spell.
Suckitdumbass

Saint Charles, MO

#6 Dec 22, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Well, it's hard to take someone serious if they aren't educated enough to spell.
Witty reply there. By that logic 100% of printed news outlets are now excluded since they have some of the worst, if not non-existent proof reading I've seen in a long time. Try again.
john

United States

#7 Dec 22, 2012
The writer who initiated this thread is spot on. The government's talk of banning weapons is not the answer just the same as raising taxes will not fix the budget problem. If the government bans guns or raises taxes it will only redirect the problem.
Bad people can still get guns illegally or they will use another type of weapon. The best way to prevent a bad person from harming others is to identify and treat their problems or to arm good people.
The government needs to start looking for logical long term solutions to all problems and not just temporary ones. Quit spending money on needless projects and force those receiving aide to work for and earn it. People have grown too dependent on government assistance and no longer feel the need to provide for themselves and to protect themselves. Cut unnecessary spending and let the people arm and protect themselves.
The politicians needs to take a strong, albeit unpopular, stance and do what's best for the country and not their own political agendas. Don't allow companies to move production overseas. Drill here for oil instead of spending money the country does not have on foreign oil.
And to all the lazy individuals that would rather sit on the couch and collect a check from the government:
GET A JOB!

To those few individuals who cannot honestly work, and by that I mean a legitimate disability, I still support my tax dollars providing food on your table and a roof over your head. However that does not mean an iPhone and a $50,000 car.
If someone receives aid, they should be drug tested regularly. If they get medication and they are found to over use or sell it, they should be denied aid for an extended period of time. Along with anyone that is found to be abusing the system.
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#8 Dec 22, 2012
Suckitdumbass wrote:
<quoted text>Witty reply there. By that logic 100% of printed news outlets are now excluded since they have some of the worst, if not non-existent proof reading I've seen in a long time. Try again.
Suckitdumbass is your nickname? Screen name? Nice.
In fairness

Jackson, MO

#9 Dec 22, 2012
john wrote:
The writer who initiated this thread is spot on. The government's talk of banning weapons is not the answer just the same as raising taxes will not fix the budget problem. If the government bans guns or raises taxes it will only redirect the problem.

The government needs to start looking for logical long term solutions to all problems and not just temporary ones. Quit spending money on needless projects and force those receiving aide to work for and earn it. People have grown too dependent on government assistance and no longer feel the need to provide for themselves and to protect themselves. Cut unnecessary spending and let the people arm and protect themselves.
Please detail $1,000,000,000,000 in cuts of "unnecessary spending".

I'll wait.
Guest

Edwardsville, IL

#10 Dec 23, 2012
I've read the 2nd amendment and it was written when all the authors had to worry about was the possession of an 18th century musket. We live in an America where assault rifles are common, and, with that, so are mass shootings. I believe that if you need anything that fires 30 rounds you aren't a hunter or a defender, you are an idiot. Gun control has to happen now. I don't think any of us want to be put into the position of knowing someone killed by gun violence. A friend of mine told me once, "In high school I had a gun pulled on me. At that time I didn't wish I also had a gun, I wished that he did NOT have one." I think that explains it all.
justice

Jackson, MO

#11 Dec 23, 2012
Guest wrote:
I've read the 2nd amendment and it was written when all the authors had to worry about was the possession of an 18th century musket. We live in an America where assault rifles are common, and, with that, so are mass shootings. I believe that if you need anything that fires 30 rounds you aren't a hunter or a defender, you are an idiot. Gun control has to happen now. I don't think any of us want to be put into the position of knowing someone killed by gun violence. A friend of mine told me once, "In high school I had a gun pulled on me. At that time I didn't wish I also had a gun, I wished that he did NOT have one." I think that explains it all.
Show your support.Put a big sign in front of your house that reads i am unarmed. Lets see what happens. i am keeping my guns.
In fairness

Jackson, MO

#12 Dec 23, 2012
justice wrote:
<quoted text>Show your support.Put a big sign in front of your house that reads i am unarmed. Lets see what happens. i am keeping my guns.
Show your support for guns. Walk up to a police officer and draw your guns.

See how fun extremism can be?
Guest

Edwardsville, IL

#13 Dec 23, 2012
justice wrote:
<quoted text>Show your support.Put a big sign in front of your house that reads i am unarmed. Lets see what happens. i am keeping my guns.
It's people like you that I worry about having guns. People that are extreme to the point of seeing no one's beliefs but their own. I can understand your stance on the matter, but I do not agree with it. Loading the US with weapons in hopes that it will become safer is the most ignorant idea I have ever heard of. Making guns harder to get and making assault rifles illegal are some of the BEST ideas I've ever heard of. It sickens me to think that you would rather fight to keep your pointless weapons than fight to keep our children safe. There's a reason why the US has so many gun related deaths.
not

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Dec 23, 2012
Guest wrote:
I've read the 2nd amendment and it was written when all the authors had to worry about was the possession of an 18th century musket. We live in an America where assault rifles are common, and, with that, so are mass shootings. I believe that if you need anything that fires 30 rounds you aren't a hunter or a defender, you are an idiot. Gun control has to happen now. I don't think any of us want to be put into the position of knowing someone killed by gun violence. A friend of mine told me once, "In high school I had a gun pulled on me. At that time I didn't wish I also had a gun, I wished that he did NOT have one." I think that explains it all.
It was written by men with muskets who faced an army made up of men with muskets . If you loose the 2nd amendment you loose your constitution absolute power corrupts absolutely. This government by and for the people and their constitution is ultimately protected by the men with the muskets .
justice

Jackson, MO

#15 Dec 23, 2012
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>
It's people like you that I worry about having guns. People that are extreme to the point of seeing no one's beliefs but their own. I can understand your stance on the matter, but I do not agree with it. Loading the US with weapons in hopes that it will become safer is the most ignorant idea I have ever heard of. Making guns harder to get and making assault rifles illegal are some of the BEST ideas I've ever heard of. It sickens me to think that you would rather fight to keep your pointless weapons than fight to keep our children safe. There's a reason why the US has so many gun related deaths.
Yes i want all children to live stop abortion.
Guest

New York, NY

#16 Dec 23, 2012
justice wrote:
<quoted text>Yes i want all children to live stop abortion.
Good one.
not

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Dec 24, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Well, it's hard to take someone serious if they aren't educated enough to spell.
When you attack the messenger instead of the message you have lost the argument
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#18 Dec 24, 2012
not wrote:
<quoted text>When you attack the messenger instead of the message you have lost the argument
And your doing what right now?
I OK

Jackson, MO

#19 Dec 24, 2012
Guest wrote:
I've read the 2nd amendment and it was written when all the authors had to worry about was the possession of an 18th century musket. We live in an America where assault rifles are common, and, with that, so are mass shootings. I believe that if you need anything that fires 30 rounds you aren't a hunter or a defender, you are an idiot. Gun control has to happen now. I don't think any of us want to be put into the position of knowing someone killed by gun violence. A friend of mine told me once, "In high school I had a gun pulled on me. At that time I didn't wish I also had a gun, I wished that he did NOT have one." I think that explains it all.
That musket was an assualt rifle

When the 2th amendment was being written by our founding father, the rifle of our patriots was the Kentucky Long Rifle. The American long rifle that different from all other rifles in the world by having a rifled barrow to spin the ball when fired. With this rifle, it was possible to hit a target at 3000-4000 yards. The British army, the best in the world, was equipped with the Brown Bess, a smooth bore rifle with an accuracy of perhaps 300 feet on a good day. This gave the American troops a great advantage over the British forces in all battles. The Kentucky Long Rifle with its rifle barrow was the best rifle of its time. It was an assault rifle. The best damm assault rifle in the world.
Guest

Edwardsville, IL

#20 Dec 24, 2012
I OK wrote:
<quoted text>
That musket was an assualt rifle
When the 2th amendment was being written by our founding father, the rifle of our patriots was the Kentucky Long Rifle. The American long rifle that different from all other rifles in the world by having a rifled barrow to spin the ball when fired. With this rifle, it was possible to hit a target at 3000-4000 yards. The British army, the best in the world, was equipped with the Brown Bess, a smooth bore rifle with an accuracy of perhaps 300 feet on a good day. This gave the American troops a great advantage over the British forces in all battles. The Kentucky Long Rifle with its rifle barrow was the best rifle of its time. It was an assault rifle. The best damm assault rifle in the world.
as·sault ri·fle
Noun
A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.

It wasn't an assault rifle. Nice try.

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