Chambersburg Area school board reject...

Chambersburg Area school board rejects teachers' contract

There are 127 comments on the Public Opinion story from Sep 8, 2010, titled Chambersburg Area school board rejects teachers' contract. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

The Chambersburg Area School District's board voted down a contract proposal between the district and the teachers union at Wednesday night's board meeting.

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Hadley

Greencastle, PA

#1 Sep 8, 2010
It is time to refuse the union demands. Boryan and Sciamanna should be replaced on the negotiation team.
logic

Greencastle, PA

#2 Sep 9, 2010
yes spend millions on the school or say high school raise our taxes but do not pay the teachers for our kids schooling. I would rather have a teacher paid to teach than all the addons they seem to get and the huge amounts of money they speed on them. You cant run a school that you spent millions on with no teachers
hate burnt toast

Carlisle, PA

#3 Sep 9, 2010
oh so now that you have your new shiney toy in place now you want to save money you nuts should have thought about that when you spent all that money on the new gym and football field
View

Elizabethtown, PA

#4 Sep 9, 2010
Very sad. One would think that the school board would have accepted the mediator's proposal. I wonder how long it will be until both groups meet again.
truth be told

Chambersburg, PA

#5 Sep 9, 2010
It always amazes me that the board is so willing to give the administration what they ask for(and not publish for the public to see) but are not willing to give to the people who are the nuts and bolts of public education. The teachers are always made out to be money hungry opportunists. If this is truly how you feel, volunteer in your child's classroom and see how hard they work. It is a real eye opener. Your child is their number 1 priority. Many Elementary teachers in the CASD went out and bought pencils, crayons, etc for their classes because supplies that were promised never materialized. CASD's budget cuts always seem to affect the children, not all the bells and whistles!
what

Chambersburg, PA

#6 Sep 9, 2010
View wrote:
Very sad. One would think that the school board would have accepted the mediator's proposal. I wonder how long it will be until both groups meet again.
I know the teachers had high hopes!
inquiring mind

Carlisle, PA

#7 Sep 9, 2010
Was the full board able to review the contract ahead of time, or was last night the first they'd seen it?

Something of this importance should be available for review before having to take a vote.
Seriously

Greencastle, PA

#8 Sep 9, 2010
I bet this just bought a teacher strike next year!
More dogs and ponies

New Bloomfield, PA

#9 Sep 9, 2010
"I think that we will have to diminish the education of students to approve this," Helman said.

"We want to provide the best education with the resources that we have," Blowers said.

Last I checked the students were being taught by the teachers, and the teachers are a resource. The board not accepting the suggestions of their own PAID negotiator will certainly lower morale which will in turn "diminish the eduction of students" and NOT provide "the best eduction" for them.
question

Carlisle, PA

#10 Sep 9, 2010
More dogs and ponies wrote:

The board not accepting the suggestions of their own PAID negotiator will certainly lower morale which will in turn "diminish the eduction of students" and NOT provide "the best eduction" for them.

How much did the taxpayers have to pay for the lawyer who negotiated for the district?
Amazed

Shippensburg, PA

#11 Sep 9, 2010
People are blasting the board without knowing any details.
The PO should publish every CASD employees salary and benefit package and every teacher's students results. This is public record
nuts

Chambersburg, PA

#12 Sep 9, 2010
So the board has enough in the budget to hire 2 more custodians,hire consultant @ 4k per month to assist administration on business, promote Hodge and Rockwood, create 2 library supervisors and build to the tune of 7 major projects (my estimate) at $225 million. Now we find out there is no money for books, supplies and the people who work in the trenches. Nice job to Joe and this board.
taxpaying dad

Greencastle, PA

#13 Sep 9, 2010
There are no gurantees in life, except if you work for a union.

Teachers should be treated just like everybody else in the workforce.
They should have their salaries froze, benefits scaled back, they should be forced to make higher contributions to their health benefits.
Just like everybody else.
Scott M

United States

#14 Sep 9, 2010
Amazed wrote:
People are blasting the board without knowing any details.
The PO should publish every CASD employees salary and benefit package and every teacher's students results. This is public record
Not a bad idea. The P.O. should file a Freedom of Information Act request.
dont matter anyway

New Bloomfield, PA

#15 Sep 9, 2010
taxpaying dad wrote:
There are no gurantees in life, except if you work for a union.
Teachers should be treated just like everybody else in the workforce.
They should have their salaries froze, benefits scaled back, they should be forced to make higher contributions to their health benefits.
Just like everybody else.
Or you are a school district administrator.
wow

Hanover, PA

#16 Sep 9, 2010
taxpaying dad wrote:
There are no gurantees in life, except if you work for a union.
Teachers should be treated just like everybody else in the workforce.
They should have their salaries froze, benefits scaled back, they should be forced to make higher contributions to their health benefits.
Just like everybody else.
actually, that is almost exactly what the new contract was going to do. but apparently the board wants more.
Prioritzed Education

Chambersburg, PA

#17 Sep 9, 2010
logic wrote:
yes spend millions on the school or say high school raise our taxes but do not pay the teachers for our kids schooling. I would rather have a teacher paid to teach than all the addons they seem to get and the huge amounts of money they speed on them. You cant run a school that you spent millions on with no teachers
AMEN!!! I agree with your opinion. We don't need all the latest technology or the news sports facilities or bloated brand new school....JUST PAY AND GET QUALITY EDUCATORS THEN KEEP THEM!!! I understand from teachers that they voted on the state arbitrators recommendations for new contract.
agreed

Duncannon, PA

#18 Sep 9, 2010
taxpaying dad wrote:
There are no gurantees in life, except if you work for a union.
Teachers should be treated just like everybody else in the workforce.
They should have their salaries froze, benefits scaled back, they should be forced to make higher contributions to their health benefits.
Just like everybody else.
Did you read the details of the proposed contract?
Tax Paying Citizen

Reading, PA

#19 Sep 9, 2010
what wrote:
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I know the teachers had high hopes!
When will the Board vote down hiring more top administrators and contracted services? Here's an idea......reject the big raises the 12 month administrators received. Dr. P. made a statement that there are fewer administrators than 5 - 6 years ago. Maybe there is a small amount of truth in that, IF you include Department Chairs and Head Teachers, who only worked a few extended days, beyond a regular classroom teacher as administrators. What about all the 12 month administrators who have been hired to replace these positions. I would like to see an article comparing the cost (which would include benefits) between the stipends paid to the Department Chairs/Head Teachers compared to the cost (with benefits) for hiring 12 month administrators. Taking into consideration that these 12 month people are only on the job 11 months out of the year, since they are given 4 weeks vacation upfront. It is time the blame be put on administrative salaries and benefits and NOT the teachers! Oh, and what about voting down giving Dr. P. insurance benefits for he and his wife, even if he leaves the district.
Wow

Spring Grove, PA

#20 Sep 9, 2010
A slap in the face to the education profession...

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