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Price Chopper stocking more from local farms

There are 34 comments on the WNYT Albany story from Mar 26, 2008, titled Price Chopper stocking more from local farms. In it, WNYT Albany reports that:

Price Chopper is looking to increase the amount of local products on its shelves.

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kris

United States

#22 Sep 3, 2008
I believe that these videos are worst case scenario. I have been to a lot of farms and slaughtering facilities and have never ever seen anything like that. I think they use worst case scenarios to get prople to follow along with them. If you would like to see real life, there is a local farm tour in Schaghticoke, NY on Sept. 27 from 10am to 3pm. There will be a bus coming from Troy farmers market for people without transportation. Maps are available on the day of the event at Darrow Bros. Equipment on Rt 40 in Schaghticoke or you can download a flyer at www.agstewardship.org

Since: Jul 08

Alstead, NH

#23 Sep 3, 2008
Legal 1 wrote:
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OK- now I'm traumatized. Those videos were aweful! More people should watch them though- in the hope of bringing about change.
it is horrendous! when i first watched it i cried.
however, we don't have to be all vegetarian to stop this madness. i think encouraging small local farms (like the person above) will help the cause! on the contrary, imagine if everyone became a vegetarian. cows, chickens etc. would not survive in wilderness. they'd become extinct fast.

Since: Aug 08

Pittsfield

#24 Sep 3, 2008
Tie Clip wrote:
<quoted text>it is horrendous! when i first watched it i cried.
however, we don't have to be all vegetarian to stop this madness. i think encouraging small local farms (like the person above) will help the cause! on the contrary, imagine if everyone became a vegetarian. cows, chickens etc. would not survive in wilderness. they'd become extinct fast.
That's another reason to support local farmers. I spent a couple of months at my sister's place up near Plattsburgh NY a few years ago. Her property abuts a small beef farm. While walking her property I used to go up to the fence and pet the cows and feed them apples and carrots from her gardens. Then one afternoon while we were on the back deck reading the farmer walked up to one of the cows and shot him right in the head! I know that he was butchering the cow for the meat and that is why he was raising them, but it was still pretty sad. Later in the day he called my sister over to the back fence and handed her a steak wrapped in brown paper and asked her to give it to me with his thanks for fattening up his cows. I do eat beef, but couldn't eat that steak!(I'll bet it was good too)

Since: Jul 08

Alstead, NH

#25 Sep 3, 2008
Legal 1 wrote:
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That's another reason to support local farmers. I spent a couple of months at my sister's place up near Plattsburgh NY a few years ago. Her property abuts a small beef farm. While walking her property I used to go up to the fence and pet the cows and feed them apples and carrots from her gardens. Then one afternoon while we were on the back deck reading the farmer walked up to one of the cows and shot him right in the head! I know that he was butchering the cow for the meat and that is why he was raising them, but it was still pretty sad. Later in the day he called my sister over to the back fence and handed her a steak wrapped in brown paper and asked her to give it to me with his thanks for fattening up his cows. I do eat beef, but couldn't eat that steak!(I'll bet it was good too)
at least he died instantly and didn't endure that excruciating pain the cows in that video felt. and you were nice tio him, feeding apples etc. he had a relatively good life. he was able to eat fresh grass, walk freely. don't feel bad.
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Alstead, NH

#26 Sep 6, 2008
i don't understand why they wouldn't come up with a technology that would make death quick and painless. they could chop their heads right off instead of cutting their throat. it takes time to die from blood loss. that's so inhumane!!!! what they are doing is complete and utter torture. and the man who was kicking blood in the face of that poor suffering animal must've been enjoying it. what a scumbag!!! u have to be seriously messed up in the head to so something like that every day.
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Alstead, NH

#27 Sep 6, 2008
kris wrote:
I believe that these videos are worst case scenario. I have been to a lot of farms and slaughtering facilities and have never ever seen anything like that. I think they use worst case scenarios to get prople to follow along with them. If you would like to see real life, there is a local farm tour in Schaghticoke, NY on Sept. 27 from 10am to 3pm. There will be a bus coming from Troy farmers market for people without transportation. Maps are available on the day of the event at Darrow Bros. Equipment on Rt 40 in Schaghticoke or you can download a flyer at www.agstewardship.org
oh really. how do they kill cows there?
kris

United States

#29 Sep 7, 2008
They usually use 1 shot to the head. Death is immediate. It makes for much more tender meat if the animal is calm and at ease.
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Alstead, NH

#30 Sep 8, 2008
kris wrote:
They usually use 1 shot to the head. Death is immediate. It makes for much more tender meat if the animal is calm and at ease.
that's good. but i wonder, what if it was vice versa? what if more tender meat came out of a tortured animal. would it be okay than?

Since: Aug 08

Pittsfield

#31 Sep 8, 2008
They don't kill them in as painlessly a method as possible to provide more tender meat they do it to prevent the animal from torture.
kris

United States

#32 Sep 8, 2008
Actually, they do it as painlessly as possible for all reasons. Most people do not want to see animals suffer, It also makes sense to get the best meat possible as that is the purpose of slaughter. Farmers certainly aren't wealthy people, so they need to get the most out of their product as they can.
rrrrrr

Alstead, NH

#33 Sep 8, 2008
kris wrote:
Actually, they do it as painlessly as possible for all reasons. Most people do not want to see animals suffer, It also makes sense to get the best meat possible as that is the purpose of slaughter. Farmers certainly aren't wealthy people, so they need to get the most out of their product as they can.
so if this is the best way to kill a cow, why do you think some slaughter facilities still do it in such a barbaric manner? i mean it's not a rummer, it was videotaped. those actions took (and probably still taking) place.

Since: Jul 08

Alstead, NH

#35 Sep 9, 2008
Outdoorfan wrote:
I am looking for good Woodworker/Handyman or Amateur Astronomer who is skilled and/or knowledgeable and who is honest. I want to have a truss style Dobsonian telescope built. I know that sounds like something you would have to know allot about telescopes to build,but that isn't the case.
They are very easy and you would have full blueprints and instructions with pictures of each step. I'm not the greatest handyman in the world,in fact far from it but I could probably do it myself. The main reason I'm not doing it myself is because #1 like I said I am not that great at building things,I have no real tools and it needs to be precise.Also there are no nearby astronomy shops or camera stores(most camera stores sell telescopes and binoculars as well as cameras) that have what I want and are nearby.So if I order one online shipping would run about $100 or more.
Here is what I require in the the handyman/woodworker/ect-
#1-Must know what you are doing and be skilled and honest.If you had a reference or two,that would be cool, but I will decide that on a case by case basis.
#2-Must be able to read and then follow blueprints/instructions.
#3-Must be reasonably priced,but we can discuss that later on.
#4-Must be willing to set some sort of timetable for completion and put it in writing. We can discuss that more later and it can be a bit flexible but I don't want to make it an open project that takes 3 years to finish.
#5-Must live locally and be willing to deliver the telescope to Herkimer.
Those are the basics,we can discuss those and anything else later if you we get to that point.
Now about the scope-
All materials necessary will be provided along with Blueprints/instructions and all you would have to cut all the pieces to the proper dimensions. Then either assemble it yourself or give me the finished pieces and I can put it together.Your choice the main thing is precision.You will need to cut the pieces to precise dimensions and the holes that will need to be drilled,so I can add a focuser assembly,ect... need to be exact.With a telescope everything has to be right on because a mistake of an 1/4" might not make a big difference on a desk or a table or something but on a telescope being off a 1/4" would be be a big problem and cause issues.There would be no need to assemble the optics or put them in. I can do that later,all I want is the body of the telescope built.
As long as we set a rough timetable like I mentioned,you can even do it in your spare time,I am not in a huge hurry.
A few examples of the type of telescope I mean(mine would be smaller than most of these though:
http://www.astroleaguephils.org/observepic/no...
http://www.company7.com/meade/graphics/meade1...
http://www3.telus.net/astrotel/_images/DSC008...
This one is the style and size of the one I want to have made.:
http://fesunoff.com/astro/trussDob.html
If you are interested or think you can do it let me know and we can get in touch and discuss the details and cost ect...
Thanks
Dennis
you can start your own discussion instead of posting unrelated comments. click here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/glenville-ny#...

Since: Jul 08

Alstead, NH

#36 Sep 9, 2008
Outdoorfan wrote:
I am looking for good Woodworker/Handyman or Amateur Astronomer...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/glenville-ny#...
you can click on the link to start a discussion instead of posting unrelated comments :)

Since: Jul 08

Alstead, NH

#37 Sep 17, 2008
to those, who claim, that the instances of farm animal abuse are rear, here, watch this horror.
http://video.ap.org/v/default.aspx...

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