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The closure of Kulani Prison and cutting funds to drug treatment programs like Hina Mauka are "illusionary savings." Like illusionists who distract our attention while making things disappear and then reappear, the administration creates the illusion that we're saving money, yet these costs will reappear somewhere else.
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Hawaiian Republican

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<quoted text>"Hawaiian Republican," since you continue to refuse to answer any questions that will help me qualify what's valid, from this point forward I will be making certain assumptions.
For instance, any posting I put out as point of fact that you do not respond to negatively will be considered "factually accurate" as you have clearly pointed out those posts you consider inaccurate or not on topic.
You're flailing so much I have a difficult time trying to understand the alternating points you keep trying to push. Which is why I have been asking clarification from you but you refuse to answer.
I got news for you: you already consider everything you put out as "factually accurate" whether I respond to it or not, and even after I or others prove you wrong.

From this point forward I will be making my own assumptions about you.

First, you are deliberately a very selective reader. Anything that doesn't support your own opinions, will be conveniently ignored or mischaracterized.

Second, whenever you are solidly proven wrong, you will either completely ignore the initial point or shift the discussion to something else.

Third, most of your sources will have nothing to do with the specific issue being discussed and will likely be from questionable sources.

Fourth, your the best damn "wiggler" I have ever seen...and that's not meant as a compliment.
Hawaiian Republican

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1) I think we can agree that Salon put it under the "Opinion" heading. I don't think we can agree that the whole article is opinion because of that. Is that your point?
2) You can be as skeptical as you wish. That's fair enough. But your previous example of Rush Limbaugh seems to not stand up to your own arguments. It certainly didn't stand up to mine seeing as you no longer want to use him as your exemplar. Fine. But the term "committed ideologue" presumes bias the way you use it. I think you would have to show that. Even George W. Bush had his facts straight now and then. When he did, it would be hard to prove him wrong because he was a "committed ideologue." You haven't done anything close to weakening Blumenthal's arguments except to dismiss the speaker for his politics. Weak response. Unworthy analysis on your end.
3.) You needed to hear the obvious, obviously. Did it sink in? Sounds like it.
Oh, brother! My time is too precious to waste on you and your over-inflated opinion of yourself any further tonight. Like I said earlier, a misnomer on your screen name by just one vowel in the word "Bullshot". Goodnight!

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Oh, brother! My time is too precious to waste on you and your over-inflated opinion of yourself any further tonight. Like I said earlier, a misnomer on your screen name by just one vowel in the word "Bullshot". Goodnight!
Um, sticks and stones and hasta la vista, Precious.
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And in the section titled Carte Blanche, the writer says “…The secret service now points to a Washington meeting in the autumn of 2002, shortly before Hanning's letter, whereby the then-BND agent in Washington met with Tyler Drumheller, CIA operations leader for Europe, for a lunch meeting in a restaurant called Sea Catch. Drumheller recalls that the BND agent warned that "Curveball" was psychologically unstable and likely a fraud. The BND has now, for the first time, officially confirmed this account.
According to Tenet, the CIA even specifically asked the BND contact what he thought of “Curveball” after the war began. In response, though, the BND agent didn't specifically call "Curveball" a "fabricator," Tenets says. Rather, he spoke of a "single source" whose information couldn't be independently confirmed -- the same watered-down formulation that found its way into the Hanning letter. Former highly-placed BND agents confirm this account.
In any case, the CIA and the White House interpreted Hanning's response as carte blanche. Five weeks after receiving Hanning's letter, the US president announced in his State of the Union address that Saddam possessed "several mobile biological weapons labs" and further that "he has given no evidence that he has destroyed them." “ So again, the United States went it alone. They determined what they wanted to hear. As before, the BND confirmed the information came from an unconfirmed single source. The fact the Americans finally got an opportunity to interview him is irrelevant. The Americans decided, even after being warned the intel was suspicious, pressed forward on their own without corroboration.“…On the night before Powell's Security Council presentation, he even telephoned with George Tenet himself. "Hey, boss," he recalls saying. "Be careful with that German report. It's supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that." “ So apparently the US was aware of a discrepancy.
Your problem is you’re trying to put the proof of responsibility on the Germans when, as we agree Curveball was already deactivated for more than a year. 9/11. Bush reactivated him and brought him out in the open, not the Germans.
And I agree the US was looking for “…any charge against Saddam’s regime they could find…” But unlike you, let’s take a look at the whole paragraph:”...An official intelligence assessment from October 2002 became the basis for the new draft. That assessment was the product of a White House order and saw US intelligence scraping together any charges against Saddam's regime they could find. But apart from an airy story about alleged nuclear weapons research and purported connections between the government and al-Qaida, only the material from Germany remained....” And if you actually read the next section, which is the “Crown Jewel,”(and I’m repeating)“...Even the constantly repeated warning from the US government that Saddam was attempting to acquire nuclear weapons fell on deaf ears in the BND. On that point, Germany's intelligence community could hardly be counted among the warmongers....” Clearly, the BND did NOT believe the US’ claim. Clearly the Germans were CONVICED of the complete opposite of what the US was trying to sell them. As the article put it, "...the constantly repeated warning...” Just like Bush and his terrorism speeches.

No where in the article did it claim the US intelligence community confirm any of the story. No where in the article did it say the Germans tried to convince the US of anything. In fact, the BND only gave vague responses to issues Bush used to support his invasion. And it was the Americans who kept hounding the Germans about nuclear weapons.

I’m not mischaracterizing. I’m using what you provided and taking it at face value. You really don’t understand this article do you? You quote it but you don’t tie it in to anything in particular. Personally I’m bookmarking this link.
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Hawaiian Republican wrote:
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I got news for you: you already consider everything you put out as "factually accurate" whether I respond to it or not, and even after I or others prove you wrong.
From this point forward I will be making my own assumptions about you.
First, you are deliberately a very selective reader. Anything that doesn't support your own opinions, will be conveniently ignored or mischaracterized.
Second, whenever you are solidly proven wrong, you will either completely ignore the initial point or shift the discussion to something else.
Third, most of your sources will have nothing to do with the specific issue being discussed and will likely be from questionable sources.
Fourth, your the best damn "wiggler" I have ever seen...and that's not meant as a compliment.
lol! No wonder you never answered my questions. You didn't want to be pinned down in case you needed to change your position! I gave you a lot of opportunity to address specific points just so I could remain on track. That way we'd be on the same page. But you weren't answering to protect yourself! In case you needed "wiggle" room. Interesting.

Nice of you to point out my sources were wrong. I even said as much. Which is why I also followed up with additional sources of which you only addressed one (in addition to not clarifying your points.)

I think you're not clear about the point you want to make. You have bits and pieces and hope it's enough to confuse me. The problem was, I can't understand what you're trying to drive at. Anyone can take a quote a say "there it is." That doesn't mean it makes any sense.

As you said, the onus was on me to support my point and I believe I did that. And thanks for your help. Even though your source may or may not be credible (actually more of an unknown), it was interesting reading.
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Really? Or is it because as a state employe you hate to be furloughed or laid off.
So really, "Blast her back", hating to be furloughed or laid off you are blasting Lingle back.
LMAO, that's a bit of a stretch even for a LINGLE loving patriot! Certainly in your mind everyone who post's anything against your beloved Right Wing REPUBLICAN Conservative leader must be a state employee. Still (LMAO)!

Well if that's all you have to go on then you're as delusional as her majesty is.

I for one can't wait for the arbitrator to go over the LINGLE books with a fine tooth comb! Can't you???? And watch as the skeleton's come falling out of her closet.
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Hawaiian Republican wrote:
Loose ends from yesterday for Yeah. This I posted very early this morning before the SB changed online editions:
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There are some problems with this source. First, the obvious: in the link you provided, it's under the "opinion" section of salon.com . Next, the author of the column doesn't present any named sources. Lastly, the author is Sidney Blumenthal. Here's more on good ole Sid:
-Assistant to former President Bill Clinton
-Developed a reputation for mercilessly smearing opponents of Clinton
-Proponent of the "Third Way," a centrist philosophy that borrows ideas from both Marxism and capitalism
- Famous for his unwavering loyalty to Bill and Hillary Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal is an American journalist who served as assistant and senior adviser to President Bill Clinton from August 1997 until January 2001.
- In 2004 Blumenthal made a $2,000 campaign contribution to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.
More information on him at:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individual...
Not exactly an unbiased source.
Good try, but you're not proving your assertion.
gee! I thought you stated you do not spend all your time (plus your company's time and resources) blogging on-line. But that appears to be a total fabrication (or for holy people like you, a lie) you can't get enough of your inflated ego....makes you a real loser when you would have to confront/debate people face-to-face...again, you run and hide...exit stage left when you cannot confront, much less defend your pomposity...go to your corner and whimper now!
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Hawaiian Republican wrote:
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Oh, brother! My time is too precious to waste on you and your over-inflated opinion of yourself any further tonight. Like I said earlier, a misnomer on your screen name by just one vowel in the word "Bullshot". Goodnight!
Cry-baby, cry-baby, you lose again! Your wife must be getting tired and her shoulder soggy from having to have you cry on it all the time. Do everyone a favor, get the livin' hades off the blog site and seek psychiatric help, Napolean Bonaparte'...you are a legend in your own mind!!!
big isle

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Really? Or is it because as a state employe you hate to be furloughed or laid off.
So really, "Blast her back", hating to be furloughed or laid off you are blasting Lingle back.
Oh, Boo Hoo! It's about time you whiners/anti-labor scabs get put in your place....I hope you're eating your anti-labor words with A-1 sauce about now. I'm glad this scam was exposed once and for all to, finally we hope, shut your lame mouths up. It just goes to show you're all talk, but you have no facts to back up your B.S. Lingle is dead meat, as are those who were dumb enough to vote for her...bye, bye, so long, farewell....you'll never see another republican govenor in this state in your lifetime...Thank God!!!!
big isle

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The Truth wrote:
"Finally, this recession is good for something. With a depressed construction industry, our rail system could be cheaper than the mayor and his engineers first thought."
Yeah, great. Until they bring in contractors and crews from the mainland to do the work.
What's the matter, Lingle-Lover, need to find a new topic to gripe about? You and Hawaiian republican need to re-educate yourselves...don't try to slip back into the "conversation" now that Der Lingle is in deep Kim-chee....how pathetic you are!

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big isle wrote:
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Cry-baby, cry-baby, you lose again! Your wife must be getting tired and her shoulder soggy from having to have you cry on it all the time. Do everyone a favor, get the livin' hades off the blog site and seek psychiatric help, Napolean Bonaparte'...you are a legend in your own mind!!!
Don't make fun of HR. Have fun *with* HR. He's precious.
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Hey Hawaiian Republican, Yeah, Big Isle, and the rest of you - Quit taking up screen space with your babbling. Enough already! Exchange phone numbers, meet at Starbucks and hash it out on your own. We don't need to read about it.

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Zori Girl wrote:
Hey Hawaiian Republican, Yeah, Big Isle, and the rest of you - Quit taking up screen space with your babbling. Enough already! Exchange phone numbers, meet at Starbucks and hash it out on your own. We don't need to read about it.
Okay. You first.
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Zori Girl wrote:
Hey Hawaiian Republican, Yeah, Big Isle, and the rest of you - Quit taking up screen space with your babbling. Enough already! Exchange phone numbers, meet at Starbucks and hash it out on your own. We don't need to read about it.
Hear that, Yeah?? She'd be talkin''bout YOU!!

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<quoted text>Hear that, Yeah?? She'd be talkin''bout YOU!!
Hmmmm. If you don't need to read about it, same as Zori Girl, why *are* you reading about it? Jeez. You sound like the guy saying, "I wish I'd stop hitting myself with this hammer. I wish I'd stop hitting myself with this hammer."

At some point, folks, you have to be responsible for yourselves. Even the Conservatives here know that.

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