SELDEN: Girl says she was 12 when mol...

SELDEN: Girl says she was 12 when molested

There are 463 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 29, 2008, titled SELDEN: Girl says she was 12 when molested. In it, Newsday reports that:

A teenage girl testified yesterday that a Selden man charged with molesting five children sexually assaulted her when she was 12 and that she was sometimes afraid of staying with him, despite their close ...

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Since: Mar 07

Coatesville

#26 Aug 22, 2008
First of all, I'm not a bud! Secondly, the story is a bit stange to me that the parents didn't think this guy was a bit "weird" wanting to spend so much time with these kids. It's not like he was family!!!
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>you dont know the whole story bud. Like someone said it does not even have to be a sleep over in his mind it happened anytime but he liked the scary movies so the girls would be scared?????? you better get facts straight before you say anything. You dont know what that devil did to those pooor girls. he is the devil. He better get his when it is over. If his family dont relize what the devil did to those girls after listening to closing argument there is some thing wrong with them. remermber this is not first time for his second time around.
bystander

Thomasville, NC

#27 Aug 22, 2008
I think you all should let the family and the victims if there acutally were any alone to deal with what has happened. Family did NOT know what was going on - they aren't stupid or blind - and you "to see justice served" should also keep quiet - no one knows the whole story and guilty or not guilty there are multiple people being punished right now and as a parent i blame all of you who allowed your children to go over there sleep over, or not without your eyes watching. There were no children at house what was reason? cause he was buying ice cream??? dig into your own wallet and get money out - look at what you could have avoided. Family is not liers they are daughters, and a wife of a man they love you would testify the same - and hopefully if you or they knew something was going on would have stopped it when it started - father, grandfather or neighbor. Why let it go so long ????? shame on you
to see justice served

AOL

#28 Aug 22, 2008
bystander wrote:
I think you all should let the family and the victims if there acutally were any alone to deal with what has happened. Family did NOT know what was going on - they aren't stupid or blind - and you "to see justice served" should also keep quiet - no one knows the whole story and guilty or not guilty there are multiple people being punished right now and as a parent i blame all of you who allowed your children to go over there sleep over, or not without your eyes watching. There were no children at house what was reason? cause he was buying ice cream??? dig into your own wallet and get money out - look at what you could have avoided. Family is not liers they are daughters, and a wife of a man they love you would testify the same - and hopefully if you or they knew something was going on would have stopped it when it started - father, grandfather or neighbor. Why let it go so long ????? shame on you
shame on you for saying what you are saying his family did lie and the jury saw thru the lies so keep your nasty thought to yourself or you are probly one of his kids, remember kids dont lie adults can so if you are a family member justice was served for these girls and for everyone one he has done this too and there was alot more out there and he probly did it to his own kids.his family is in denial.
bystander

Thomasville, NC

#29 Aug 22, 2008
i am not related but i do know the family and I do not see them sitting there saying something if it wasn't true. Justice was served?? where were the parents 4 years ago when this was going on? As the paper says the girls made a Pinkie swear right after it happened??? okay so they swore then but never said anything to anyone until now? come on - seriously - if they knew enough then- they should have said something - HMMMM sounds like they knew the girl that he didn't get convicted for years ago - and maybe they swore to her they would help to get $$ out of him and well that didn't work so lets go for more? affairs happen - he shouldn't have to pay for a single woman screwing a married man..... Get a job and support yourself.
to see justice served

AOL

#32 Aug 23, 2008
Horn Dog wrote:
Yeah, but you shoulda seen the rack on her when she was 12. Whoa-hoooo. Then she grew up to be a pig and nobody bought her ice cream anymore so she ratted the old geezer out.
you are a sickoooooo
Friend

Clayton, NC

#33 Aug 23, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>shame on you for saying what you are saying his family did lie and the jury saw thru the lies so keep your nasty thought to yourself or you are probly one of his kids, remember kids dont lie adults can so if you are a family member justice was served for these girls and for everyone one he has done this too and there was alot more out there and he probly did it to his own kids.his family is in denial.
You can't seriously believe that these girls were invited to his house to sleep over and sleep in his bed.. Where was everyone else? Where was his wife? Mysteriously out of town. Yes he was a kind man and bought ice cream for kids because they were friends of his grandchildren over playing. This is crazy that you can't even be nice to friends of your children or grandchildren anymore for fear of something like this happenening. I am a parent and if Im with one of my kids friends and I buy something for my kid his friend will get the same because kids don't understand and it's not fair. You can't just go buy ice cream for your family an none for noone else. If you knew anything at all about his family you would know there is always someone at his house. I just don't see this ever happenening and Im really suppose to believe that the parents let their kids stay at a grown mans house all alone. Please people. The stories just don't make sense, the time lines don't make sense and they will get their turn. I hope they realize that when he gets proven inocent they will get in trouble, I just hope they know that. The truth alwasys comes out. And if there are ALOT more out there. Where are they? Oh and by the way kids do lie. ALL THE TIME!! And the jury had no evidence of this just stories that the girls who are friends lets keep in mind had a lot of time to collaborate on. Lets not forget the charges that were dropped because the stories just didn't up.
Friend

Clayton, NC

#34 Aug 23, 2008
Just another thing, being able to relate from my own peronal experience. I can see having to deal with being molested by a parent or someone like that over and over because you have no escape. But im suppose to believe that these girls (little girls) had such a close relationship with him that regardless of what "they say" happened the continiued to go over there in exchange for being able to say bad words and have ice cream..Im going to guess that maybe carvel has a security system why doesn't anyone go back and really look at this. For christ sakes they have video in car washes, they will be able to see Tom holding her arms from behind for no reason because after driving in the car to carvel she was so scared once she got there he had to physically restrain her from leaving the store..
to see justice served

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#35 Aug 23, 2008
Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't seriously believe that these girls were invited to his house to sleep over and sleep in his bed.. Where was everyone else? Where was his wife? Mysteriously out of town. Yes he was a kind man and bought ice cream for kids because they were friends of his grandchildren over playing. This is crazy that you can't even be nice to friends of your children or grandchildren anymore for fear of something like this happenening. I am a parent and if Im with one of my kids friends and I buy something for my kid his friend will get the same because kids don't understand and it's not fair. You can't just go buy ice cream for your family an none for noone else. If you knew anything at all about his family you would know there is always someone at his house. I just don't see this ever happenening and Im really suppose to believe that the parents let their kids stay at a grown mans house all alone. Please people. The stories just don't make sense, the time lines don't make sense and they will get their turn. I hope they realize that when he gets proven inocent they will get in trouble, I just hope they know that. The truth alwasys comes out. And if there are ALOT more out there. Where are they? Oh and by the way kids do lie. ALL THE TIME!! And the jury had no evidence of this just stories that the girls who are friends lets keep in mind had a lot of time to collaborate on. Lets not forget the charges that were dropped because the stories just didn't up.
let me tell you buddy 7 out of 10 charges were found to guilty and the jury believed all the girls no kids dont lie about this story.i guess your kids lie
Friend

Clayton, NC

#36 Aug 23, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>let me tell you buddy 7 out of 10 charges were found to guilty and the jury believed all the girls no kids dont lie about this story.i guess your kids lie
What are you 12.. Yes kids lie, my kids are to young to lie but maybe someday they will everyone does at some point. What Im saying is allegations like these are made everyday and a lot of them are not true and peole are suffering for it. They do it because spoiled kids aren't getting what they want or things aren't the way the want them or they are trying to get revenge for something. Stories like these are hard not to believe because people automatically feel for the kids who say these things and automatically assume that they can't be lying. There is so much going on in the world today about kids getting kidnapped and raped and molested that its a fear the public have and should have. People should be aware of it and not brush it under the rug, I also feel like people should not be accused on allegations where there is no evidence just stories of two girls that happen to have the same one.. It is very rare that a molester will do this with more then one person in the room for that exact reason which is another reason why this whole thing doesn't make sense. It's almost as if they heard bits and pieces of the Micheal Jackson trial and kinda twisted it a little. Im not here to fight with you and call names, Im simply saying that things should have a little more substance. Their are just to many things to questions. I mean lets look at this. An older man is accused of molesting children. People are scared and automatically find him guilty just because of like what you said "kids don't lie" so it's almost a better safe then sorry kind of a case.. It's better off that they say guilty just on the off chance that it is true because then imagine having to live with yourself if 5 years from now he is found guilty of the same thing.. There needs to be more evidence thats all Im saying.
JAckie

Bronx, NY

#37 Aug 23, 2008
youll findout who i am wrote:
<quoted text>
Well maybe He came off as a very nice man, and The girls parents didnt know there weren't a other Adult in the house @ the time!
EVEN IF there was another adult in the home... as a mother you dont let your child no matter what the age is sleep over a mans house he has no children there is nothing for them there.. candy treats toys w/e he was giving them made them come back for more (gifts not mollestation) the parents in this caase should be charged for neglect. The grl said she felt sometimes affraid there dispite their close relationship...im confused by that SHE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE BACK
JAckie

Bronx, NY

#38 Aug 23, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>let me tell you buddy 7 out of 10 charges were found to guilty and the jury believed all the girls no kids dont lie about this story.i guess your kids lie
WHITE TRASH KIDS LIE if they want to get even for things that happen to their friends.. nothing in this story makes sense timeline nothing
to see justice served

AOL

#39 Aug 24, 2008
Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you 12.. Yes kids lie, my kids are to young to lie but maybe someday they will everyone does at some point. What Im saying is allegations like these are made everyday and a lot of them are not true and peole are suffering for it. They do it because spoiled kids aren't getting what they want or things aren't the way the want them or they are trying to get revenge for something. Stories like these are hard not to believe because people automatically feel for the kids who say these things and automatically assume that they can't be lying. There is so much going on in the world today about kids getting kidnapped and raped and molested that its a fear the public have and should have. People should be aware of it and not brush it under the rug, I also feel like people should not be accused on allegations where there is no evidence just stories of two girls that happen to have the same one.. It is very rare that a molester will do this with more then one person in the room for that exact reason which is another reason why this whole thing doesn't make sense. It's almost as if they heard bits and pieces of the Micheal Jackson trial and kinda twisted it a little. Im not here to fight with you and call names, Im simply saying that things should have a little more substance. Their are just to many things to questions. I mean lets look at this. An older man is accused of molesting children. People are scared and automatically find him guilty just because of like what you said "kids don't lie" so it's almost a better safe then sorry kind of a case.. It's better off that they say guilty just on the off chance that it is true because then imagine having to live with yourself if 5 years from now he is found guilty of the same thing.. There needs to be more evidence thats all Im saying.
well i have say i am one of the moms i believe my daughters and the other kids that were involved i guess you were the molesters friend but i see what these girls are going thru mentally what he has done to them and i am not 12. the girls are not going to put there selvesfes on the stand an imbarrasses themselves for what, so maybe you should think about it. you dont know what these girls are going thru mentally thats all i have to say
to see justice served

AOL

#40 Aug 24, 2008
JAckie wrote:
<quoted text>
WHITE TRASH KIDS LIE if they want to get even for things that happen to their friends.. nothing in this story makes sense timeline nothing
your white trash, you must be related to him or your a molester yourself pigggggg
bystander

Carle Place, NY

#41 Aug 24, 2008
why do they need to be related when the story just doesn't fit -as they said the timeline - i think before you write about someone you should look up the words and spellings in the dictionary because if you are a mother you must have failed in school as well as a mother for allowing your children to go sleep over a man's house... so if the allegations are true and he did do this - then you as well should be prosecuted for failing your children....
Friend

Clayton, NC

#42 Aug 24, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>your white trash, you must be related to him or your a molester yourself pigggggg
Look at the classless way that you repsond to all these emails. If you are any reflection on your children then I am even more so in question here. And really what are you doing letting your 12 year old daughter sleep over his house if that is in fact what happened her, are you married where is the dad?? Seriously you should be charged for neglet you obviously have your own issues..
Friend

Clayton, NC

#43 Aug 24, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>well i have say i am one of the moms i believe my daughters and the other kids that were involved i guess you were the molesters friend but i see what these girls are going thru mentally what he has done to them and i am not 12. the girls are not going to put there selvesfes on the stand an imbarrasses themselves for what, so maybe you should think about it. you dont know what these girls are going thru mentally thats all i have to say
Lets just say that if it didn't happen then they really aren't embarrising themselves because it didn't happen!! And so Im suppose to believe that now these kids are emotionally scared and you are seeing this everyday. Lets see we are talking about years ago this happened, you didn't notice anything wrong.. OH Wait a minute why would you right it's perfectly normal for you to let your little girls sleep over at grown mans houses on multiple occassions.. I forgot not only that I guess it must be a common practice throughout the neiborhood because aparently everyone is doing it.. Come on now this is just the craziest crap I have ever heard.. It's ridiculous. The story just simple does not make sense the timelines are wrong.
outside looking in

Carle Place, NY

#44 Aug 24, 2008
This is a witch hunt I tell ya
JAckie

Bronx, NY

#45 Aug 24, 2008
to see justice served wrote:
<quoted text>your white trash, you must be related to him or your a molester yourself pigggggg
I am neither... I am a parent who would never let my children sleep over a mans house so they can get free ice cream toys or whatever else their hearts desired.. these poor girls felt so uncomforable going there however continue to do so again and again.. no one who was truly molested put themselves through that for ANY PRICE in the world.. MAYBE if you opened your eyes and payed more attention to your child your child would not be seeking attention from the world by putting themselves through court or if this did happen attention of a man.. I do not no this man I am going by what I read it does not make sense your parenting does not make sense these girls looking for attention.. that makes sense .. now your paying attention to your child arent you.. all those years of neglect and your finally paying attention.. good job
to see justice served

AOL

#46 Aug 24, 2008
Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at the classless way that you repsond to all these emails. If you are any reflection on your children then I am even more so in question here. And really what are you doing letting your 12 year old daughter sleep over his house if that is in fact what happened her, are you married where is the dad?? Seriously you should be charged for neglet you obviously have your own issues..
get a life
Doubtful

AOL

#47 Aug 24, 2008
JAckie wrote:
<quoted text>
WHITE TRASH KIDS LIE if they want to get even for things that happen to their friends.. nothing in this story makes sense timeline nothing
The girl said she sometimes wanted to leave and he would "give her an attitude". It later came out she wanted to leave because the other two girls were ganging up on her and calling her fat. She cried during that testimony, not when she talked about molestation in carvel

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