Sayville students protest rising gas prices -- Schools, Exxon M...

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Yeah

Warren, NJ

#234 Jun 6, 2008
unbelievable wrote:
<quoted text>
A) i did not raise "these" kids.
B)My generation did not screw up anything. Life is a series of struggles, You do your best to make the world better in effective ways. You don't do pointless and ineffective things for selfish reasons and expect a pat on the back. God help us when these cell phone toting narcissists start fully embodying the workforce.
Many in their generation doesn't even want to get their butts off the couch. I know a 12 year old boy who lives on a 6 house cul de sac two blocks from a quaint main street style town who has NEVER left his block on his own power by foot, bike, scooter or skateboard( all things he owns). Never even so much as walked around the block to visit a friend's house.
Something I did and would have done at half his age.
c) aww, you feel like the world has let you down because women work for nicer things ( like a roof over their heads and electricity) and want equal rights? Well why don't you balance the scale, give up your equal rights, your self-sufficiency and rely on someone else to pay all your bills.
When you get married you can live on one salary and let us know how that works out for you.
Listen azzwipe, we DO live on 1 salary. MINE. I have a decent hpome, and 2 great kids that my wife takes care of. We dont have a mercedes or a Cadillac Escalade. We do have newer cars that are fine. We dont have flat screens in every room, but we do have 1. We dont vacation in Hawaii, but we go to Lake George. We made choices to raise our kids. Some parents do need double incomes just to pay the mortgage. But to the ones that drive the expensive cars, take the fancy vacations, ask yourselves--Are you really raising your kids right? Or could you have scarificed some material items for your time. At least thee kids are trying, something you have no clue about.

“Wait til next year”

Since: Dec 06

Brooklyn NY USA

#235 Jun 6, 2008
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text> Listen azzwipe, we DO live on 1 salary. MINE. I have a decent hpome, and 2 great kids that my wife takes care of. We dont have a mercedes or a Cadillac Escalade. We do have newer cars that are fine. We dont have flat screens in every room, but we do have 1. We dont vacation in Hawaii, but we go to Lake George. We made choices to raise our kids. Some parents do need double incomes just to pay the mortgage. But to the ones that drive the expensive cars, take the fancy vacations, ask yourselves--Are you really raising your kids right? Or could you have scarificed some material items for your time. At least thee kids are trying, something you have no clue about.
Trying? How about doing a little "homework" and discovering that the tripe their Marxist teacher is shoveling them is exactly that. The government pulls 38 cents a galln while the oil companies (who pull the oil out of the ground, transport it around the world, refine it, distribute and collect the tax for the state) net 10 cents a gallon. Bet their socialist teacher didn't tell them that.
Why would he? He is a public teat-sucking member of the government school monopoly.
SHS Student

Milford, CT

#236 Jun 6, 2008
Our teacher did not come up with the idea, a student did. Our teacher helped organize it. So for those of you saying that our teacher has Marxist ideas you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Additionally teenagers are always getting crap for not doing anything. We try to something proactive and we get ridiculed, way to support the youth. You should all be ashamed.
SHS Student

Milford, CT

#237 Jun 6, 2008
Scooter Sala wrote:
*I would just like to say "Pop Off" to everyone who doesn't agree with what the Sayville Seniors did!*
I seconded that Scooter Sala!
Scoot to school 2008!
SHS Student

Milford, CT

#239 Jun 6, 2008
Joseph Tyson wrote:
<quoted text>These kids are doomed by the the trash that they are subjected to in their classrooms every day.
Are you in our classroom every day? No you are not so do not make assumptions about things you don't know about.

I am still in shock that people are criticizing this....let me let you in on a secret everyone at school thinks your posts are hysterical. What are you going to criticize next elementary school children raising money for the poor? Or is that too socialist for you. Do you think they need to go get a job and work their way up from the bottom?
paula

East Northport, NY

#240 Jun 7, 2008
local wrote:
<quoted text>
Know your facts - the Sayville School district has not had Bus service for over 10 years - the kids either get to school themselves or their parents drive them - school buses are a treat they do not know
Sayville does have bus service....Bayport does not...
buyerbeware

AOL

#241 Jun 7, 2008
LET'S GET MAD AS H E L L and not take it anymore. Let's stop complaining about high oil prices --- do something about it. What? Email everyone on your list in this country and abroad -- let's put together a worldwide one day boycott of gasoline. Let's make June 30th a day that will shake up whoever is forcing these prices up. They believe we lack the backbone -- and that we lack the power to do anything about this.

Well, we have the power to move mountains if necessary -- we have proven that time and again when circumstances have called foe us to do so. It's time -- to exert that power .

Some will say one day isn't enough. You are right. But it will make a statement that when we unite we can pull this off and do it for longer periods if necessary. Some say it will hurt the station owners. One day will not bankrupt service station owners. So, take a moment today and email everyone on your list. Let's stop this insanity - we are the only ones who have the power to do so.

“Wait til next year”

Since: Dec 06

Brooklyn NY USA

#242 Jun 7, 2008
SHS Student wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you in our classroom every day? No you are not so do not make assumptions about things you don't know about.
I am still in shock that people are criticizing this....let me let you in on a secret everyone at school thinks your posts are hysterical. What are you going to criticize next elementary school children raising money for the poor? Or is that too socialist for you. Do you think they need to go get a job and work their way up from the bottom?
Of course private citizens raising money to aid the unfortunate is precisely NOT socialist. That you do not understand that makes my point.
You are a product of a Marxist government school monopoly operated for the benefit of a public teat-sucking education bureacracy.
Nowhere in the Constitution is the federal government delegated the power to regulate or fund elementary or secondary education. Yet Washington now pumps $75 billion in tax money into educational programs run by the Departments of Education, Agriculture, Defense, Health and Human Services, Interior, Justice, Labor, and Veterans Affairs. The largest share ($36 billion) is spent by the Department of Education. This massive infusion of tax dollars on public education has not produced the expected results: while average per-pupil spending in public schools grew 212% from 1960 to 1995 and real-dollar teacher salaries have risen 45% over the same period, SAT scores have steadily declined.
Politically powerful teacher unions control the education agenda, which mainly has to do with expanding government programs. In fact, the 2.5 million-member National Education Association (NEA) supports $906 billion per year in new spending. Although public schools are not doing the job, education unions support strict regulation of home school students (who tend to perform better academically than public school children), such as licensing of parents and barring home schooled kids from extracurricular activities that take place on public school grounds. Teacher unions are the main force opposing vouchers and tuition tax credits that would introduce competition to the public schools. After the privately-run Edison school in San Francisco showed the third highest improvement in test scores out of San Francisco’s 71 schools, teacher unions stepped up efforts to force the city to revoke Edison’s charter. The public school monopoly not only harms taxpayers, it acts as a means of national socialization that promotes the values of the state (“diversity,” extreme environmentalism, etc.) at the expense of parents and communities.
Geez

Germany

#243 Jun 7, 2008
What's wrong with suing the school bus? The kids wouldn't have to worry about the price of gas!
Geez

Germany

#244 Jun 7, 2008
Geez wrote:
What's wrong with suing the school bus? The kids wouldn't have to worry about the price of gas!
Sorry,meant using the school bus. Suing....I guess I read too much about the peanut lady on American Airlines.:))
SHS Student

Milford, CT

#245 Jun 7, 2008
Alright I am done, the people criticizing are obviously miserable people who have nothing better to do.

I am going to go back to being young and having fun. Have a nice life!
Shocked Student

Mastic Beach, NY

#246 Jun 7, 2008
I have to say I am utterly shocked at all of the backlash this story has recieved. How can people be so upset and angered that the kids in our school didn't drive to school for one day? This "stunt" didn't harm anyone, and it saved a day's worth of oil. The fact that people on here are attacking our teachers and our whole student body for trying to do something good, for a cause that we believed in just shows how sad the world is. No one was harmed from this, but there are people here angered as though we had brutally murdered someone.
gain perspective

AOL

#248 Jun 7, 2008
Shocked Student wrote:
I have to say I am utterly shocked at all of the backlash this story has recieved. How can people be so upset and angered that the kids in our school didn't drive to school for one day? This "stunt" didn't harm anyone, and it saved a day's worth of oil. The fact that people on here are attacking our teachers and our whole student body for trying to do something good, for a cause that we believed in just shows how sad the world is. No one was harmed from this, but there are people here angered as though we had brutally murdered someone.
I don't believe there's a post on this board that states the students did anything "wrong", your actions have been mostly called ineffective or misguided. I dont' read upsetment or anger at your actions, those emotions are directed at those (not necessarily the students) who are presenting this one-day boycott as some kind of heroic activism. Try to open your mind and learn WHY posters would feel that way! You didn't save a "day's worth of oil", you saved some students'(or their parents) gas needed for a trip to school and back (less than three miles for most, I'm sure). Over the student body, it's a few gallons, do the math! No one was harmed, of course, and if you had done it for an altruistic reason it would have been better recieved. What I don't understand is why you can't see that you had a selfish purpose (you don't like the high price of gas and the way it affects your teen lifestyle) and most people don't stand up and applaud selfish actions like seals in a circus. You're not trying to change the status quo (supporting alternate fuels, or a lower consumption lifestyle, or even environmentalism), you seem to me to be desperately trying to maintain it (you feel entitled to cheaper gas) without understanding the many economic and global forces at work. I agree the whole story's blown out of proportion simply because it was reported in Newsday. This was just a high school activity, I don't know why they even reported it. But I think it would be very worthwhile for college-bound seniors especially to take notice of some of the critical remarks. You learn most from people who challenge your ideas and actions.
gain perspective

AOL

#249 Jun 7, 2008
buyerbeware wrote:
LET'S GET MAD AS H E L L and not take it anymore. Let's stop complaining about high oil prices --- do something about it. What? Email everyone on your list in this country and abroad -- let's put together a worldwide one day boycott of gasoline. Let's make June 30th a day that will shake up whoever is forcing these prices up. They believe we lack the backbone -- and that we lack the power to do anything about this.
Well, we have the power to move mountains if necessary -- we have proven that time and again when circumstances have called foe us to do so. It's time -- to exert that power .
Some will say one day isn't enough. You are right. But it will make a statement that when we unite we can pull this off and do it for longer periods if necessary. Some say it will hurt the station owners. One day will not bankrupt service station owners. So, take a moment today and email everyone on your list. Let's stop this insanity - we are the only ones who have the power to do so.
Your call to action is misguided and ineffective. First, you don't understand that gas prices are not a simple result of supply and demand - big oil is a global market and is traded as an energy commodity (deregulated in the US in the early 2000s). Second, gas stations don't control the price of gas. Third, your not talking about a real reduction in gas usage, just a shift to another day. The only solution is to personally and permanently reduce your use of oil/gas, a genuine lifestyle change. Email campaigns have been tried since 2000, they are considered useless hoaxes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas...

Since: Feb 07

Brentwood, NY

#250 Jun 7, 2008
Shocked Student wrote:
The fact that people on here are attacking our teachers and our whole student body for trying to do something good, for a cause that we believed in just shows how sad the world is.
What shows how sad the world is is how woefully misinformed the students and teachers are.

Oil companies find, extract, refine and deliver petroleum products, they DO NOT SET THE PRICE.

These same students and faculty would have been protesting nuclear energy and oil drilling years ago... which is responsible in large part for putting us in the bind we are today. When will people learn? Apparently never.
NYC

Monmouth Junction, NJ

#251 Jun 9, 2008
Shocked Student wrote:
I have to say I am utterly shocked at all of the backlash this story has recieved. How can people be so upset and angered that the kids in our school didn't drive to school for one day? This "stunt" didn't harm anyone, and it saved a day's worth of oil. The fact that people on here are attacking our teachers and our whole student body for trying to do something good, for a cause that we believed in just shows how sad the world is. No one was harmed from this, but there are people here angered as though we had brutally murdered someone.
12 page thread and you are as clueless now as you all were a week ago.
Be a man

Andover, NJ

#252 Jun 9, 2008
Don't worry what you are seeing is why nothing in this world never gets fixed. Because of office mice people yuppies who are indifferent to the problems that others face. They are so out of touch that they would argue in favor of a president who ruined our land. And other lands economies..

I too am shocked that people could be so stupid. But that is the world that we live in.

Try not to worry about it.
Shocked Student wrote:
I have to say I am utterly shocked at all of the backlash this story has recieved. How can people be so upset and angered that the kids in our school didn't drive to school for one day? This "stunt" didn't harm anyone, and it saved a day's worth of oil. The fact that people on here are attacking our teachers and our whole student body for trying to do something good, for a cause that we believed in just shows how sad the world is. No one was harmed from this, but there are people here angered as though we had brutally murdered someone.
Wiseguy

Saint Louis, MO

#253 Jun 9, 2008
Keep up the good work, judging from the comments from some of the monkeys you are stirring up the status quo!
Commutes by bicycle

Englewood, CO

#254 Jun 10, 2008
Im curious how many people here work within 16 miles of there home. I bicycle to work and back 32 miles a day and have worked up to 5 days a week. At this point that is 40 dollars saved every week not to mention that I am in much better shape. I have not filled my car since April. Imagine how much better off we would be if everyone within 16 miles of there jobs would do the same at least a few days a week. Its not a total solution but a step in the right direction.
Hauppaugian

Hauppauge, NY

#255 Jun 10, 2008
In response to the protest, the price of gas rose 10 cents per gallon at the pump. Good job!

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