Cop's suicide shocks colleagues, Tase...

Cop's suicide shocks colleagues, Taser victim's family

There are 90 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 3, 2008, titled Cop's suicide shocks colleagues, Taser victim's family. In it, Newsday reports that:

Lt. Michael Pigott turned 46 yesterday, but before the sun rose, he slipped out of his Sayville home, drove to his former command in Brooklyn and fired a single bullet into his head, ending a life tormented ...

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“Where to my good man ?”

Since: Jul 07

Big Apple, USA.

#84 Oct 13, 2008
Cop are just regular people. That's just a face they put on.

“LET'S WORK THIS OUT!”

Since: Jul 08

Philadelphia

#85 Oct 13, 2008
Monday Morning qb s wrote:
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If your praying for yourself, then pray for compassion. Something you seem to lack. i dont think he commited suicide for honor, I think it was over the stress of taking another man's life. Stress, jailtime for doing one's job or maybe for a mistake or a bad judgement call.
Basa, just realize there is stress and there is life and death stress. Somehow i dont think he experience that kind so just be happy others make those choices and have to live with those consequences.
Bless both their families.
I think that you may be misunderstanding my comment. I never said he committed suicide for honor. Please go back to my first reply. I don't lack compassion, nor have I not prayed for both families. Please understand, none of us know what the Lt. was thinking when he took his life or when he gave the order for Mr. Morales to be hit with the taser, but I know that the Lt. left many people with heavy hearts and even guilt that they didn't see or couldn't tell he was this troubled. I'm sure that you have touched many peoples lives as the Lt. did and think of how they would feel being left to deal with your absence from their lives in this manor?
Get real

East Hampton, NY

#86 Oct 14, 2008
Basa you wrote this post:
Police procedure was not followed. Morales was not an imminent danger to the officers. He was waving a light bulb. Lt. Pigott may have been a dedicated officer for 21 years, but he became a coward in the time it took to end his own life. If his actions had been justified he would have had nothing tho worry about. How is his family supposed to honor his memory when this is the final memory he left them?

Basa, I don't want to sound rude to you, but your posts are very wrong! You claimed in another post that the Lt. should not have used his taser because of the Morales man being mentally ill. Unless your a cop in Philadelphia and work the city beat...I don't understand where you draw your conclusions. It doesn't matter though. You see, city cops deal with so much death, so much sadness, so much anger and hate on any given tour day and night like you can't imagine. They live (many of them) in the nice quiet suburbs of Long Island and commute to the city. They have families and they lead good and decent lives. The differences between both worlds is quite frankly polarizing! Now I don't think you have any idea what I mean when I say cops see some of the most horrid things on a regular basis. They deal with people who live like animals all the time! They spend hours and hours around people who only look human but have nothing in common with regular folks. From where you sit all safe and sound and protected, it doesn't make sense and you don't get why this police officer would succumb to the mental and emotional torture he felt. Try the word Despair, its not the kind of stress you claim you deal with on a regular basis my friend lets be real,...despair is such a hopeless and dark and reasonless place to be in your mind. I have never been there before but I do know that these men and woman who are police,work among and around such sick stuff for years and years have definitely taken on a different more hardened shell, they have to because these areas are so friggen impossible to deal with any other way!
When they come home to Long Island or the better areas of New York where most hail from they breath a temporary sigh of relief just to be home, and still they know it's just a few hours before they return to the hell holes of these neighborhoods in the city.

They don't complain at all this is me talking, not them! I'm just a close observer that is all. The city is a dark and cold world and it's a constant war zone in many areas dealing with wacko's by and large all the time. Death and destruction and gangs and rude idiots...you have no clue!
So please don't you think for one minute that this guy was selfish and left behind his family like a coward...you used the word coward. His wife and those children had a loved one on the job as a city cop...they knew the dangers of his job and trust me...they prepared for something over the years...they always do! Of course they don't believe that it will happen to their husband or wife or anything, and of course they would never suspect that the job would take him through suicide, but that is exactly what happened. The job killed him! As spouses, they know this and the children always know this too, so they mentally prepare and pray that their loved one is safe from harm always. These husbands/spouses try to be brave and strong and put up very strong front because they are programmed to be that way and they would never want anyone to see them as weak...trust me!...Respect that this man was a fine cop and as one of New York's finest...he should be remembered like that!

“LET'S WORK THIS OUT!”

Since: Jul 08

Philadelphia

#87 Oct 14, 2008
Get real wrote:
Basa, I don't want to sound rude to you, but your posts are very wrong! You claimed in another post that the Lt. should not have used his taser because of the Morales man being mentally ill. Unless your a cop in Philadelphia and work the city beat...I don't understand where you draw your conclusions. It doesn't matter though. You see, city cops deal with so much death, so much sadness, so much anger and hate on any given tour day and night like you can't imagine. They live (many of them) in the nice quiet suburbs of Long Island and commute to the city. They have families and they lead good and decent lives. The differences between both worlds is quite frankly polarizing! Now I don't think you have any idea what I mean when I say cops see some of the most horrid things on a regular basis. They deal with people who live like animals all the time! They spend hours and hours around people who only look human but have nothing in common with regular folks. From where you sit all safe and sound and protected, it doesn't make sense and you don't get why this police officer would succumb to the mental and emotional torture he felt. Try the word Despair, its not the kind of stress you claim you deal with on a regular basis my friend lets be real,...despair is such a hopeless and dark and reasonless place to be in your mind. I have never been there before but I do know that these men and woman who are police,work among and around such sick stuff for years and years have definitely taken on a different more hardened shell, they have to because these areas are so friggen impossible to deal with any other way!
When they come home to Long Island or the better areas of New York where most hail from they breath a temporary sigh of relief just to be home, and still they know it's just a few hours before they return to the hell holes of these neighborhoods in the city.
They don't complain at all this is me talking, not them! I'm just a close observer that is all. The city is a dark and cold world and it's a constant war zone in many areas dealing with wacko's by and large all the time. Death and destruction and gangs and rude idiots...you have no clue!
So please don't you think for one minute that this guy was selfish and left behind his family like a coward...you used the word coward. His wife and those children had a loved one on the job as a city cop...they knew the dangers of his job and trust me...they prepared for something over the years...they always do! Of course they don't believe that it will happen to their husband or wife or anything, and of course they would never suspect that the job would take him through suicide, but that is exactly what happened. The job killed him! As spouses, they know this and the children always know this too, so they mentally prepare and pray that their loved one is safe from harm always. These husbands/spouses try to be brave and strong and put up very strong front because they are programmed to be that way and they would never want anyone to see them as weak...trust me!...Respect that this man was a fine cop and as one of New York's finest...he should be remembered like that!
I respect your opinion, but it is just that, your opinion. Just as my comments are my opinions based on my belief system. You don't know my life nor do I know yours so I don't intend to go back and forth with you about the environment I live in or anything else. I continue to stand by all the comments I make and will not be intimidated or back peddle because my comments tend to upset people. I am too strong for that. Have a nice day.
Get real

East Hampton, NY

#88 Oct 14, 2008
My final point is this is not my opinion, this is a fact! Yours is opinion. You don't know a cops life. You don't run into gang fights or see children riddled by bullets lying dead in the street because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, you don't see drug addicts with needles hanging out of their arms dead in the alleyway every day...you didn't say you were a cop. Cops deal with people who act like animals spitting on them, spewing hate towards them, harassing them for being a cop, cops go to all kinds of accidents and handle so much craziness every day. Car accidents with blood curdling screaming and crying of people injured inside or dead or decapitated for example, needless death.
They have to enter dangerous areas to apprehend criminals and draw their weapons and be ready for an all out gun fight exchange.

And even though it's not always like that after 21 years on the job, you have pretty much seen it all, especially these days with people so heartless, careless, cold and indifferent, without compassion or empathy for anyone besides themselves...

Strength? Ignorance is not strength! It's too easy to be ignorant, it takes work and truth and understanding to figure your way out of ignorance...experience too, ignorance is weakness. Sorry...have a nice day!

“LET'S WORK THIS OUT!”

Since: Jul 08

Philadelphia

#89 Oct 14, 2008
Get real wrote:
My final point is this is not my opinion, this is a fact! Yours is opinion. You don't know a cops life. You don't run into gang fights or see children riddled by bullets lying dead in the street because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, you don't see drug addicts with needles hanging out of their arms dead in the alleyway every day...you didn't say you were a cop. Cops deal with people who act like animals spitting on them, spewing hate towards them, harassing them for being a cop, cops go to all kinds of accidents and handle so much craziness every day. Car accidents with blood curdling screaming and crying of people injured inside or dead or decapitated for example, needless death.
They have to enter dangerous areas to apprehend criminals and draw their weapons and be ready for an all out gun fight exchange.
And even though it's not always like that after 21 years on the job, you have pretty much seen it all, especially these days with people so heartless, careless, cold and indifferent, without compassion or empathy for anyone besides themselves...
Strength? Ignorance is not strength! It's too easy to be ignorant, it takes work and truth and understanding to figure your way out of ignorance...experience too, ignorance is weakness. Sorry...have a nice day!
Being that you speak fact, you must be a cop. You also must have dealt with all that you state here and yet you find the strength to go on and even reply to my comments. I ask again, do you know if I am a cop, a cop's spouse, a lawyer, a drug dealer, a doctor, a pastor, a student, or anything else? No you don't, nor can you see through my eyes and know what I have or have not witnessed. What seems to be easy is your ability to call names when someone disagrees with you. What does that make you? Maybe you are the one who needs to "get real".
Monday Morning qb s

Bronx, NY

#91 Oct 16, 2008
Basa wrote:
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Being that you speak fact, you must be a cop. You also must have dealt with all that you state here and yet you find the strength to go on and even reply to my comments. I ask again, do you know if I am a cop, a cop's spouse, a lawyer, a drug dealer, a doctor, a pastor, a student, or anything else? No you don't, nor can you see through my eyes and know what I have or have not witnessed. What seems to be easy is your ability to call names when someone disagrees with you. What does that make you? Maybe you are the one who needs to "get real".
Basa, really just go away. Why do you feel the need to comment on his death at all? You show very little compassion on know nothing ( prove me wrong) of those daily stress's. Just wait for another law enforcement article and go bash away. I'm sure you will be there. Till then.
upset upstate new yorker

Horseheads, NY

#92 Oct 17, 2008
Monday Morning qb s wrote:
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Basa, really just go away. Why do you feel the need to comment on his death at all? You show very little compassion on know nothing ( prove me wrong) of those daily stress's. Just wait for another law enforcement article and go bash away. I'm sure you will be there. Till then.
that is what this topic is all about!! putting your views out there good or bad!!if you disagree with a persons views then say so and say why you disagree!
Monday Morning qb s

Bronx, NY

#94 Oct 17, 2008
upset upstate new yorker wrote:
<quoted text>that is what this topic is all about!! putting your views out there good or bad!!if you disagree with a persons views then say so and say why you disagree!
I and others have already done so. Read a few past posts by BASA and you will understand the bias. Just let her/him come on and get a quick cop bash off and move on to the next cop issue. I'm sure Basa will be there with her/him prejudice's firmly entrenched agaisnt law enforcement.
upset upstate new yorker

Horseheads, NY

#95 Oct 17, 2008
Monday Morning qb s wrote:
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I and others have already done so. Read a few past posts by BASA and you will understand the bias. Just let her/him come on and get a quick cop bash off and move on to the next cop issue. I'm sure Basa will be there with her/him prejudice's firmly entrenched agaisnt law enforcement.
yes i agree there is some out there that hate law enforcement.im pro law enforcement, they have a hard job!!

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