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Kenneth and Solveig Nelson were loving people who will be missed, said friends of the Massapequa Park couple killed in a car crash this past week. Full Story

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Nov 7, 2008
Making a left on red will have this effect. Total stupidity.
Hugh G Rection

Peekskill, NY

#2 Nov 8, 2008
Death Race wrote:
Making a left on red will have this effect. Total stupidity.
that's a little harsh, but seniors so seem to lose a sense of reality when driving, as even if think I have a green and want to make a turn, I certainly would not think that an oil truck coming the other way would also not have the same green.

It is a shame, but in a sick way at least she didn't pull out in front of a school bus full of little kids. She still would be dead along with hubby but at least know there is only the traumatized truck driver and not 15 grade schoolers having nightmares about getting on a school bus again.

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Nov 8, 2008
Hugh G Rection wrote:
<quoted text>
that's a little harsh, but seniors so seem to lose a sense of reality when driving, as even if think I have a green and want to make a turn, I certainly would not think that an oil truck coming the other way would also not have the same green.
It is a shame, but in a sick way at least she didn't pull out in front of a school bus full of little kids. She still would be dead along with hubby but at least know there is only the traumatized truck driver and not 15 grade schoolers having nightmares about getting on a school bus again.
Harsh, but true. It’s not only seniors. These actions go across the board. See the comments at:
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/newsday/TKL...

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Nov 8, 2008
KEVIN CAMELOT wrote:
<quoted text> all bs aside DR why are you so intensly obsessed with car crashes . you never miss the chance to comment . most of which i happen to agree with until you cross the line. your post over at the site you indicated was brilliant and compassionate. so why the nastiness to others? i just dont get you sometimes
I'm fed up with them and I don't require you understand. Just drive carefully and cautiously. It's not that difficult.

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Nov 8, 2008
KEVIN CAMELOT wrote:
<quoted text>do you allow any margin for human error or do your lay full blame on stupidity 110% of the time? sometimes an accident is just what it is an accident. i am as frustrated with these types of senseless acts as you are . i do however judge each one of them on an individual basis and not a blanket statement of condemnation .
i think we can both agree that god put erasers on pencils for a reason
That question is fair enough. I do allow for human error. We all misjudge things and have all probably tapped a pole, car, shopping cart, parked car or whatever. We may have also let the foot slip off the brake and tap the guy ahead of us pi55ing them off. That’s a far cry from doing something that can cause death. Jesus H. Christ, what does it take for people to exert a little extra care when going across an intersection where they car get killed by a vehicle going 30+ mph? I thought that it was common knowledge that getting t-boned by another vehicle at speed can kill you. Why not take a few extra moments to check and recheck the lights, traffic signals and everything else around before proceeding through. It might save a life, but some people just want to go full throttle without second thoughts. There’s nothing wrong with second, third and even fourth thoughts before proceeding.
It sickens me that I have to share the road with people who don’t give a schitt about themselves, much less myself and my passengers. Most of the morons are teens/young adults, but it amazes me how many adults just don’t give a damn either.
Accidents are unexpected occurrences, most of what happens can/could have been avoided if people gave a damn. If they don’t take time to think, I can’t take time to care about them.

Since: Jun 08

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Nov 9, 2008
KEVIN CAMELOT wrote:
<quoted text> i dont know about you but i have been driving a car for over30 years . when i first got my license i was 17 . im pretty damn sure i must have violated most traffic laws on the books at that time.i state this without pride but as you did admit my own imperfections.times then wee different and i beleive less dangerous. the one major difference i see for kids today or anyone for that matter driving for the first time is the amount of cars you see on the roads. the roads have not increased in size yet the amount of cars they support have increased by 4x at least………………………
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The roads sure are overcrowded and households now have a car for every resident instead of maybe one or two per house in past times. You’ve seen pretty much the same garbage I have on the roads with people doing other things while driving (barely). Mix that with initial poor driving habits or carelessness and voilà, we have crashes. That’s a major part of the problem right there in a nutshell. Those are usually the survivable fender benders (not in this or all cases) by the commonplace careless idiots that blame each other and drive our insurance rates up. The next set of idiots are the ones who feel the rules don’t apply to them. You know, the ones who make u-turns when the sign says not to, the ones who make these lazy turns when you’re stopped at a light and they damn near hit you or actually do. The list goes on. Then we have the people destined for death. These are the ones who are so oblivious and surpass the realm of stupidity. They speed excessively, weave in and out of traffic, cut people off and just do some outlandish things as if they’re the only ones on the road while treating the streets as a racetrack. These are the morons who fly off the road, crash into trees, poles, other vehicles and unfortunately kill innocent people.
The final scenario is the true accidents which do happen, but are rare by comparison. The unexpected pothole that blows a tire and sends a car into another. Black ice in an unlikely spot or something falling off a truck or other vehicle and hitting a car.
With regard to Newsday or any other publication, they’re usually very light on information and rightfully so because they don’t want to be sued for providing misinformation. They do provide accurate information, but not much of it. Further information can be obtained from the local police departments that handled it. Keep in mind that what does make the papers and news is a small percentage of the collisions that actually occur. While I do comment largely on the articles provided, my information comes from other sources such as the DMV and what I’ve personally seen or heard about. The papers give reason to be concerned while the reality and facts of what really goes on is truly aggravating and upsetting knowing that there are so many careless and stupid people on the roads. I’m still waiting to read about a true accident that was not preventable in any paper. I haven’t seen one in many years and don’t expect to see any soon. Most of these crashes were avoidable had those who caused them exercised caution and concern.

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