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frustrated

Thackerville, OK

#1 Oct 15, 2007
Is it time for Sayre to go to an 8 man football program? It seems to me that the days of ll man football in Sayre are past. Declining enrollment has taken its toll. At least the kids could have a chance to experience a little more success.
Old Sayre Student

Thackerville, OK

#2 Oct 15, 2007
If they went to 8 man football they might actually get rid of an extra coach and have a little money for Other programs and we couldn't have that LOL.
Southern gentleman

Covina, CA

#3 Oct 20, 2007
Actually, I hear what Sayre really needs is a coach.
fan

Elk City, OK

#4 Nov 21, 2007
Did you see the article Christina Dyson wrote in the Sayre paper this week? She really called it.
I'm surprised she didn't mention the fact that some of the Sayre fans chased the refs out of town after the last game.

Brower acted horrible last season, what makes anyone think he'd be different this year? I know people who have complained and no one seems to care.
FBplayer

United States

#5 Dec 4, 2007
Coming from a player on the team.. I think Brower is a horrible coach. You can ask everyone on the team and about 90% will agree.. His record since being head coach here is 12 - 28.. only teams that seem to win are the junior high.
SGURLEY

Oklahoma City, OK

#6 Dec 9, 2007
I haven't been around to watch the Sayre games in quite a few years, but I know it has all gone down hill since I was a student there. Granted I never played football, but I did play basketball and fast pitch. Sayre schools pretty much need an upgrade on most (if not all) of their teaching and coaching staff.
Anym

United States

#7 Mar 5, 2008
Spoken like a true former Sayre player SGURLEY. Lets blame the coaches! Because it surely can't be the crappy players that think 30 mins. of practice combined with their below average athletic ability, ought to earn a state championship? Or the crazy parents that defend their lazy kids and get any coach fired who tries to push the kids? Or it could be the teachers who actually expect high school students to...I don't know, read above a 1st grade level? You're right. It has to be the teachers and coaches.
Sayre chick

Clinton, OK

#8 Mar 20, 2008
Discipline is the missing ingredient in most schools and in most school programs. Parents won't allow school officials to correct their children and won't do it themselves. Too many parents seem not to expect anything from their kids. Coaches and teachers can't do it by themselves, and I'm not either a teacher or a coach. We're not doing those kids any favors to let them get by with less than their best efforts.
Thrill

United States

#9 May 10, 2008
I don't think the problem is the kids. Given, some are lazy. But that just happens. Maybe it's the fact of the coach being a pushover and not intimidating all because he doesn't enforce anything. When he gets really pissed trying to make a point, most people laugh at him. Give Sayre a coach that will actually push the kids and thrive to make them better and we will win. Name any good coach that is a pushover.
Sayre chick

Clinton, OK

#10 May 11, 2008
8-man football is fun! Lots of action and excitement. Better to do 8-man and do it well than to do 11-man unsuccessfully.
Thrill

United States

#11 May 11, 2008
If we can't coach 11-man, what makes u think we can do 8? And besides that's up to the OSSAA to drop Sayre down to 8-man, not the coach or community.
Anom

El Reno, OK

#12 May 16, 2008
Thrill wrote:
I don't think the problem is the kids. Given, some are lazy. But that just happens. Maybe it's the fact of the coach being a pushover and not intimidating all because he doesn't enforce anything. When he gets really pissed trying to make a point, most people laugh at him. Give Sayre a coach that will actually push the kids and thrive to make them better and we will win. Name any good coach that is a pushover.
If Brower or any coach for that matter were to "push" the kids, there wouldn't be anyone left to play. These kids honestly have NO CLUE what it takes to win in high school athletics. None of them show up for summer workouts and expect to win games. It doesn't matter. Every town has people that think they know how to make a team better and the solution is usually to fire the coach. With a different coach (because unfortunately you will get your way, Thrill), time will tell whether or not it was the coach, or the kids. I'm quite confident it will be the latter.
Thrill

United States

#13 May 18, 2008
No one shows up for summer workouts because they are not required to. Also the only time to go lift in the summer is at 7 in the morning, unless you have a key, he doesn't open it any other time of the day. Oh and I'm sure I will get my way because this is Brower's last year here unless he can make something happen. Which, sadly, is still too late for some of the kids.
Thrill

United States

#14 May 18, 2008
Oh and Anom, what does it take to win in high school athletics? I'm pretty sure the track team was pretty good a couple of years ago, which is oddly enough, pretty much an individual sport and doesn't take much coaching.
Anom

United States

#15 Jun 17, 2008
Thrill wrote:
Oh and Anom, what does it take to win in high school athletics? I'm pretty sure the track team was pretty good a couple of years ago, which is oddly enough, pretty much an individual sport and doesn't take much coaching.
Actually Thrill you are completly correct. It doesn't take much of a coach to get to state track. Actually it doesn't take much winning either. The kid can show up to regionals, put in a good time and qualify. But tell me again, how many championships? None.
You want to know what it takes? It takes kids lifting througout the summer and if it is 7 a.m. then so be it. Problem is no matter what time you set the kids DO NOT SHOW UP! Take a look at Mangum or Washington. Same class as Sayre but they win. Why? Because the kids put in the time YEAR ROUND! That's what it takes. And when you do provide them a key you have to deal with vandalism and changing the locks which is what they've been doing for the last few years. I hope you do get your way Thrill, a new coach. Can't wait to be proven right.
Thrill

United States

#16 Jun 19, 2008
Did you seriously just compare Mangum to Washington? You're joking right? But that's beside the point. Mangum didn't make playoffs this year and i think Sayre lost the them by what? one point? They had one good year out of 10. Washington is just Washington just plain out good at everything. Hard work can't make up for the talent they have. Yes no doubt it takes hard work year round if you really want to be good, but knowing how teenagers are, are they really going to go do it without being told to? No a majority won't. And thank you Anom, i hope i get my way too.
be nice

Elk City, OK

#17 Jun 20, 2008
Thrill wrote:
Did you seriously just compare Mangum to Washington? You're joking right? But that's beside the point. Mangum didn't make playoffs this year and i think Sayre lost the them by what? one point? They had one good year out of 10. Washington is just Washington just plain out good at everything. Hard work can't make up for the talent they have. Yes no doubt it takes hard work year round if you really want to be good, but knowing how teenagers are, are they really going to go do it without being told to? No a majority won't. And thank you Anom, i hope i get my way too.
It's not about telling them to do something. It's about motivating them to want to work to win, and you don't do that by screaming at them in front of the fans.
Anom

Lawton, OK

#18 Jun 24, 2008
Thrill wrote:
Did you seriously just compare Mangum to Washington? You're joking right? But that's beside the point. Mangum didn't make playoffs this year and i think Sayre lost the them by what? one point? They had one good year out of 10. Washington is just Washington just plain out good at everything. Hard work can't make up for the talent they have. Yes no doubt it takes hard work year round if you really want to be good, but knowing how teenagers are, are they really going to go do it without being told to? No a majority won't. And thank you Anom, i hope i get my way too.
I wasn't comparing Mangum to Washington. I was giving you examples of succesful programs and Mangum has one of the most succesful softball programs in all of class 2A, which by the way has more teams than any other class in softball. Those kids work, and they work hard. I happen to know that Washington has a summer lifting program and has an extremely high attendance rate. A kid can be a natural athlete and if they don't work the kids that do work catch up with them. The point I was trying to point out to you is that a good coach cannot substitute a players desire to get better.
coaches friend

United States

#19 Jun 24, 2008
What is the old saying, You can't make chicken salad out of chicken... Um I forget, Oh well! Lots of things in Sayre need to change, but I'm not sure it's the coaches. That has changed a lot and the problems are still there.

What is up with all the turn over anyway?
chicken salad

United States

#20 Jun 26, 2008
Same ole same ole............

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