HCRS, Kindle Farm strike deal

Facing declining enrollments and mounting financial pressures, the members of the board of directors of Kindle Farm School have resigned and the independent school for boys will now be managed by Health Care and Rehabilitation Services of Southeastern Vermont. Full Story
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Joe

Chester, VT

#1 Jun 29, 2010
After having a high student count of more than 100 a few years ago, Gordon-Macey said the school is expecting about 40 next year.

Gordon-Macey refused to give details on how many staff members were let go, though said "a good number" were recently laid off.

"Over the past few years, as enrollment went down, we did not always address our staffing to the same level," she said. "This year we had to look closely at our staffing."

She said about 25 people will work for the school at the start of the 2010-11 school year.
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40 students and 25 people on the staff and they have money problems, wow that is surprising. It's also surprising they don't want to talk about prior staffing levels.

No mention of their budget or cost per student, I guess that isn't news of interest to the taxpayers who fund this stuff.
Thelma

Brattleboro, VT

#2 Jun 29, 2010
Another HCRS takeover? Oh, Glory!
Mandy

Roslindale, MA

#3 Jun 30, 2010
HCRS has been involved with Kindle Farms for quite a while before this take over. Doesn't suprise me at all.
Just another case of HCRS wanting total controll as far as I am concerned.
Allen

Jamaica, VT

#4 Jun 30, 2010
Joe wrote:
After having a high student count of more than 100 a few years ago, Gordon-Macey said the school is expecting about 40 next year.
Gordon-Macey refused to give details on how many staff members were let go, though said "a good number" were recently laid off.
"Over the past few years, as enrollment went down, we did not always address our staffing to the same level," she said. "This year we had to look closely at our staffing."
She said about 25 people will work for the school at the start of the 2010-11 school year.
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40 students and 25 people on the staff and they have money problems, wow that is surprising. It's also surprising they don't want to talk about prior staffing levels.
No mention of their budget or cost per student, I guess that isn't news of interest to the taxpayers who fund this stuff.
It is obvious you are not familiar with the Kindle farm nor its successful & beneficial programs. And before you spout that I must be now, or in the past, an employee - I am not. I do, however, know their school and the great programs that have helped so many students receive an education not available in the public system, enabling them to become active in society. As a taxpayer I am happy to be able to support such a dedicated school. I only wish more of the Public School systems served as well. Interesting how The Kindle Farm has never been on strike, isn't it? It is because all the staff truly care about their students and the outcome of their education.

Is it your preference that our Public School system is overwhelmed with students which require more than the 'one-size-fits-all' curriculum and procedures, or would you prefer these kids just fall to the side and are brushed off?
Joe

Chester, VT

#5 Jun 30, 2010
Allen wrote:
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It is obvious you are not familiar with the Kindle farm nor its successful & beneficial programs. And before you spout that I must be now, or in the past, an employee - I am not. I do, however, know their school and the great programs that have helped so many students receive an education not available in the public system, enabling them to become active in society. As a taxpayer I am happy to be able to support such a dedicated school. I only wish more of the Public School systems served as well. Interesting how The Kindle Farm has never been on strike, isn't it? It is because all the staff truly care about their students and the outcome of their education.
Is it your preference that our Public School system is overwhelmed with students which require more than the 'one-size-fits-all' curriculum and procedures, or would you prefer these kids just fall to the side and are brushed off?
How nice and warm & fuzzy and noble of you to think it's just great to take money away from some families to make up for the lack of parenting in other families.
Victim nation marches on, too bad it's broke and headed for a crash landing.
I Vote Vermont

Fairlee, VT

#6 Jun 30, 2010
http://www.kindlefarm.org/
Every Kid Deserves A Chance
At Kindle Farm we believe that every child can succeed in school when given the opportunity to discover individual interests and personal passions. Success blooms in many ways - through positive peer and adult relationships, academic and vocational growth, and immersion in activities that help students build a solid sense of self. Building trusting relationships is at the core of our philosophy. We believe it allows students to reach their full academic and social potential.

Student Demographics and Enrollment
Demographics:
The students entering the Kindle Farm Program are individuals who have experienced trauma or disruption in their lives that significantly impairs their ability to participate in the regular public school system. They often have a mix of academic, social, emotional and behavioral disabilities. Students often exhibit a negative sense of self and a lack of trust in other people and their surroundings.

Enrollment:
Students attending Kindle Farm School are most often referred for placement by the student's local sending school district and the student's IEP team
I Vote Vermont

Fairlee, VT

#7 Jun 30, 2010
We believe it is normal for people to experience troubled times!

Kindle Farm School believes that people do well if they can. We recognize that, at times, everyone experiences environmental, emotional or psychological challenges that can be overwhelming. We understand that all people can struggle with feelings of worry, anger, frustration, confusion, anxiety, etc. Professional staff at Kindle Farm School work together to alleviate the overwhelming challenges that our students might be facing and provide accommodations that allow students to access their education. Kindle Farm School staff model healthy, appropriate and productive responses to emotions; we foster safe environments and provide clear structures that encourage children and youth to work with staff or work independently to practice these appropriate responses throughout the school day.
On Kindle

Brattleboro, VT

#8 Jun 30, 2010
Actually, the high teacher to student ratio of Kindle Farm School. The hands on approach to learning about the world, and more. Is how every school should be able to function. A bit less waste elsewhere in government spending and it could happen. One shouldn't have to be a 'troubled' kid to get to attend such a high quality program!

Standard education seems to now be training kids to work in cubicles for the rest of their life. Young, energetic hormone raging kids being told to sit still, in a box, under florescent lights all day long. And they wonder why such discipline and drugging of kids to make them sit still continues to grow?

Kindle Farm School has saved MANY kids lives, and likely ends up costing the tax payer FAR less in the long run then if they were allowed to fail, and grow even more out of control in another situation.
Allen

Jamaica, VT

#9 Jun 30, 2010
On Kindle wrote:
Actually, the high teacher to student ratio of Kindle Farm School. The hands on approach to learning about the world, and more. Is how every school should be able to function. A bit less waste elsewhere in government spending and it could happen. One shouldn't have to be a 'troubled' kid to get to attend such a high quality program!
Standard education seems to now be training kids to work in cubicles for the rest of their life. Young, energetic hormone raging kids being told to sit still, in a box, under florescent lights all day long. And they wonder why such discipline and drugging of kids to make them sit still continues to grow?
Kindle Farm School has saved MANY kids lives, and likely ends up costing the tax payer FAR less in the long run then if they were allowed to fail, and grow even more out of control in another situation.
So very well stated! Thank you.

It appears those who are against these kids having a chance are either too ignorant themselves &/or jealous because of their own lack of opportunities. Even then, why would anyone want to deprive these kids of a reasonable chance to be allowed an opportunity to progress and explore their individual potential? Can you not understand the overall financial and societal benefits of their contributions to society as opposed to have no opportunities and costing everyone not only financially but in a failed structure of society?
Mary

Jamaica, VT

#10 Jun 30, 2010
Joe wrote:
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How nice and warm & fuzzy and noble of you to think it's just great to take money away from some families to make up for the lack of parenting in other families.
Victim nation marches on, too bad it's broke and headed for a crash landing.
What a freaking idiot! What do you think public schooling is? Do you think it is a free hand-out? In my town at least 90% of our taxes go to the public school system whether we agree with it or not! The Kindle farm is giving many kids who have no other educational option to amount to something not only in their lives but in a positive manner for others. You wish to deny them to finally have a chance to enjoy self-esteem and pride in themselves.

Joe, I have followed your comments from Vermont Yankee along with your support of burning hazardous waste in a supposed organic field (Basin Farm in Bellows Falls) along with other drivel you have offered. It appears society not only should continue to offer these kids a chance but should also find programs to finally educate people such as yourself! I am agreeable for my tax money to support such programs but I fear you and your likes would shun such an opportunity to actually be able to be of benefit to society.
I Vote Vermont

Fairlee, VT

#11 Jun 30, 2010
Allen wrote:
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So very well stated! Thank you.
It appears those who are against these kids having a chance are either too ignorant themselves &/or jealous because of their own lack of opportunities. Even then, why would anyone want to deprive these kids of a reasonable chance to be allowed an opportunity to progress and explore their individual potential? Can you not understand the overall financial and societal benefits of their contributions to society as opposed to have no opportunities and costing everyone not only financially but in a failed structure of society?
Every child is deserving of an individualized Education Program (IEP).
I Vote Vermont

Fairlee, VT

#12 Jun 30, 2010
Mary, Joe isn't completely wrong and is not entirely without personal experience on the issue. If you can't find anything to agree on then you aren't listening closely enough.
On Kindle

Brattleboro, VT

#13 Jun 30, 2010
I Vote Vermont wrote:
Mary, Joe isn't completely wrong and is not entirely without personal experience on the issue. If you can't find anything to agree on then you aren't listening closely enough.
Wait ... so if Mary doesn't agree with Joe, she is not listening closely enough? Them not agreeing is her issue?

Then you could have shortened your typing time by simply saying "Joe is Right, Mary is wrong" <g>
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Chester, VT

#15 Jul 1, 2010
On Kindle wrote:
Actually, the high teacher to student ratio of Kindle Farm School. The hands on approach to learning about the world, and more. Is how every school should be able to function. A bit less waste elsewhere in government spending and it could happen. One shouldn't have to be a 'troubled' kid to get to attend such a high quality program!
Standard education seems to now be training kids to work in cubicles for the rest of their life. Young, energetic hormone raging kids being told to sit still, in a box, under florescent lights all day long. And they wonder why such discipline and drugging of kids to make them sit still continues to grow?
Kindle Farm School has saved MANY kids lives, and likely ends up costing the tax payer FAR less in the long run then if they were allowed to fail, and grow even more out of control in another situation.
so we need to save the kids that don't function well in the typical school setting by spending how much per kid to create a make believe work enviroment run by grossly overpaid people instead of just saying hey kid, if school ain't your cup of tea, why don't you drop out and get a job and consider taking some night classes or online classes in things that interest them if they so choose to.

All sorts of successful americans are in the history books that had little formal education, we even had a president that never went to school.

Just let them out of school prison at 13 and it will cost the taxpayers zero for them to go find a job and they will spend the day with adults learning as they work.

If I was going to hire some 18 year old and had 2 kids to choose from and one had 5 years of work experiance and the other one had a high school diploma and 5 extra years of being babied by glorified social workers called educators the kid with the diploma wouldn't stand a chance over the other kid.

The kid with the real world work experiance would have been exposed to a postitive roll model instead of the work ethic of a government employee. Give a kid a taste of a crummy job and watch how quick they become interested in bettering themselves.
Some of the worst kids I grew up with, teachers worst nightmares are very succesful adults and a few of the teachers wildest dreams easy students ended up being really screwed up adults.

It's really amazing how brainwashed you people are.
Insanity is doing the samething over and over an expecting different results.

Too many people feeding off the school spending so lots of people have a vested interest in defending it.
I Vote Vermont

Fairlee, VT

#16 Jul 1, 2010
On Kindle wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait ... so if Mary doesn't agree with Joe, she is not listening closely enough? Them not agreeing is her issue?
Then you could have shortened your typing time by simply saying "Joe is Right, Mary is wrong" <g>
Take a big slow breath and let it out slowly. Now read what I actually posted.
Sue

Jamaica, VT

#17 Jul 2, 2010
My son attended this wonderful school and I can assure you he would not have had the self-esteem that comes with such a dedicated group of educators. Yes, there were couple instructors that my family didn't agree with, but they have since been dismissed. I can state proudly that our son has progressed to the point that he has worked diligently with some fantastic people (of whom had a a son in the Kindle program) and he is in the process of starting his own business. This would have NEVER occurred if he was stuck in the public system or if he had dropped out. For this "Joe" who claims to hail from sometimes Chester & other times from Belmont - I truly hope your children never needed more assistance than you could give them. As for your statement that you would hire one who had less education, I really do not doubt it. It is people like you who exploit the unfortunate, undereducated, or those who has no other opportunity so you can call yourself an equal-opportunity-employer. The only reason you would hire them first is because you could control them and pay them pittance! If the truth be known, I doubt you have any job available for anyone other than maybe mowing your little lawn because you are too lazy to do it yourself. Then again, maybe it isn't even your lawn.
Joe

Chester, VT

#18 Jul 2, 2010
allen newfane
sue newfane
mary newfane

wow amazing the 3 defenders all come from the same little town.

I hope the lawn mowing business his mommy is funding works out for him.

Mary Sue Allen unlike greedy yuppie scum you socialise with, I wouldn't exploit anyone. I had a couple of guy do something for me at my house and tipped them, one of the guys busted out laughing and told me they go to all sorts of rich jerks houses and nobody ever tipped them. It just tickled the heck out of him some blue collar bubba type did.

Tearing me down on some silly internet board isn't going to keep the funding coming for your yuppie scam now that the government has run out of money and people to take it from, so oh well you can one day get a real job that's if you could handle it.
Todd

Jamaica, VT

#19 Jul 3, 2010
And you wonder why you and your sort are referred to as "dumb Vermonters"? You are an embarrassment to those of us who ARE true Vermonters and believe our youth are our future!

Please notice that I, too, am from Newfane. You are from Belmont and you call Newfane as 'little' town? If you weren't so pitiful we could consider your posts as amusing.

This Joe is the same guy who supports burning TOXIC materials and waste, even though the burning is near a community which has many schools. He also supports this same group to market their polluted produce as organic.

With that in mind, I ask the forum how much trust do you put it his postings?

Have a safe & enjoyable holiday everyone, even you Joe!
NRA for Jesus

Brattleboro, VT

#20 Jul 3, 2010
Hey Joe, if all the teachers and kids were just allowed open carry, we wouldn't have all the dang problems!

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