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Patriot

United States

#51 Aug 3, 2012
Masco Bath is ading two shifts to begin twelve hour rotation. A,B,C&D Crews in Innovex. That will eliminate overtime and allow for seven day production capacity. May be a few hires won't be many this work doesn't require a great many people.

All four shifts will total maybe 60. Innovex is a low labor cost operation. 15 people can run the whole thing twelve hours.
Patriot

United States

#52 Aug 3, 2012
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concerned

United States

#53 Aug 3, 2012
Thanks for the update patriot.

I know there aren't many decent jobs in Adamsville and I wish that wasn't the case.

If I recall correctly, when I last worked at AG they had nearly 300 people per shift so when I hear the number 60 for all four shifts I get kinda worried. I hope that everyone who lost their job can find another good job.

I know when I was laid off I struggled with depression for a while. And I still can't find steady work today.

I know lots of great people that worked there. I just hope that they can find something better.
Patriot

Brownsville, TN

#54 Aug 4, 2012
I understand concerened.

The sad truth is we have no leadership in McNairy County. The whole County is content to sit back and watch as our industrial and retail base withers and dies. It's not like there aren't prospects out there for recruitment it's just that the powers that be don't want it here.

I'm very sad for our County and I don't really believe it will ever change. One day soon it will be primarily a residential county with little or nothing else.
sissy

Chatsworth, GA

#55 Aug 4, 2012
some are excited about the 12 hour shifts. If we get to work 36 one week and 48 the next all the time it will be good. But that remains to be seen
sissy

Chatsworth, GA

#56 Aug 4, 2012
Some are excited about the 12 hour shifts. If we get to work all of the hours that we are suppose to it will be good.
Patriot

Humboldt, TN

#57 Aug 5, 2012
That kind of work is to labor intensive for twelve hour shifts. After a few weeks of it you guys will see what I mean. After all you're not pushing pencils or sitting behind a desk I don't think !
concerned

United States

#58 Aug 5, 2012
Patriot wrote:
That kind of work is to labor intensive for twelve hour shifts. After a few weeks of it you guys will see what I mean. After all you're not pushing pencils or sitting behind a desk I don't think !
With all due respect.

I don't know about the processes and procedures they use now, but when I worked at the plant I wasn't pushing pencils either. I was working in the warehouse stocking tubs. Somedays I would stock 350-400 tubs. Other days I would stock acrylic tubs that weighed 300-400lbs. One rare occasions I would stock "special order" tubs with fixtures, grab bars, seats, glass doors, etc that weighed around 450-500+lbs. I know because I took one of these fully fitted tubs and placed it on the freight scale by the returns dock and it weighed 536lbs including my dolly which weighed 29lbs. So the tub itself was 507lbs.

I know it sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, and I am a little bit:)

But my point is that I did this all on 12hr shifts.

So all I am saying is that there are people willing and capable of doing the work. But it was HARD work.
Eagles1

Chatsworth, GA

#59 Aug 6, 2012
It seems they have changed things up alot. Hope this will keep this place open, for the folks who have been able to stay. I pray the people that have gotten laid off have or will get jobs soon. Adamsville is like all the rest of small towns. They have big plants, that employ lots of people. But, they have just gone down the drain.It's all about greed and being cheaper, faster....Any warm body will do.... I am sure as some of the people who have wrote post have worked very hard at Masco Baths. I know lots have put blood, and lots of sweat trying to put in there hours. Thank you to all of you!
Who do they have as the boss now? Thanks for all the info!
Patriot

Jackson, TN

#60 Aug 6, 2012
concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect.
I don't know about the processes and procedures they use now, but when I worked at the plant I wasn't pushing pencils either. I was working in the warehouse stocking tubs. Somedays I would stock 350-400 tubs. Other days I would stock acrylic tubs that weighed 300-400lbs. One rare occasions I would stock "special order" tubs with fixtures, grab bars, seats, glass doors, etc that weighed around 450-500+lbs. I know because I took one of these fully fitted tubs and placed it on the freight scale by the returns dock and it weighed 536lbs including my dolly which weighed 29lbs. So the tub itself was 507lbs.
I know it sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, and I am a little bit:)
But my point is that I did this all on 12hr shifts.
So all I am saying is that there are people willing and capable of doing the work. But it was HARD work.
I understand your point but still statistics show that after the nine hour mark productivity goes down and you hear the "who cares it will be guitting time in three more hours", kind of thing.

With this new process temps. reach well over 100 easy it's really to much for them. Remember this, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.
concerned

United States

#61 Aug 6, 2012
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>I understand your point but still statistics show that after the nine hour mark productivity goes down and you hear the "who cares it will be guitting time in three more hours", kind of thing.
With this new process temps. reach well over 100 easy it's really to much for them. Remember this, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.
You're a smart person and I like hearing from you.

And you are absolutely right on that last paragraph.

I never worked the heat rooms, but I did occasionally help to unload the glass doors from those metal shipping containers from china. That's right, the doors were made in china. Temps inside those metal containers would approach 140-150degrees. They would lay them on their sides and stack them 3 rows high. I was the lightest guy so I would climb up on the second row and unload them from the top rows. I remember after being in there for 30-45minutes at a time I would come out of there and be so covered in sweat that my shoes would make squishing sounds when I walked. I would drink about 1.5gallons of water a day and still be nearly ten pounds lighter when I got home. I'd drink enough water to put back on 4 or 5 of those pounds and go do it all over again the next day. It wasn't uncommon for me to lose 15pounds in one 3 day weekend.

I am a little older and a lot smarter now.

That's a perfect example of "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."

What departments did you work in? You definitely know your stuff, and I enjoy your posts.
McNairy Countians

Avon Park, FL

#62 Aug 24, 2012
Insight wrote:
I believe Templar is a corporate whore...unless he doesn't charge.
Correct on Taylor , MI. I've been there many times to the castle.
If all your labor cost claims were true - they would move the entire AS&B operation down here.
Obviously you are educated, but you sir are either blinded but the poop from having your head up either Mike Geels, Butch Dingler's or Chris Yank-your-chain's butt or you're justa naive fvcktard.
Profit is OK, innovation is good. Love it. Masco Bath lost a fuzzy-wuz over 10 million last year with their new product.
Can I get an amen?
Masco did not lose 10 million on Innovex. It was profitable. Gelcoat has a low profit margin. The overhead was sucking profits down. If Gelcoat was profitable it would still be here today.
The customer feedback on Innovex is more favorable than Gelcoat. The point is it is hard to compete and stay in business with a product that does not grow.
There is also not a health issue with the new product. The material is already used at other facilities in Masco family and has been for double digit years. That is how MascoBath came up with the technology. If it was not for Innovex there would be no Adamsville facility. And your Managers at the plant are breaking their backs trying to keep it that way.
There is a lot propaganda being said about his new product and it is propagated by UN-informed people. I'm sure Praxis folks are making the same baseless accusations for their good.
another happy consumer

Saint Marys, GA

#63 Aug 24, 2012
Masco Bath products? Complaints and resolutions?
In 2008 my wife and I started remodeling our bathroom, we just as of early 2010 had the opportunity to finish it with the trim and resurfacing the wall in our hallway since that is where the shower fixtures can be accessed. Well unbeknown to us we purchased a poor quality grade tub/shower unit and after 3yrs of use the bottom of the tub has started to show stress cracks. Well Masco offered to replace the wall surround and the tub, admitting that they sell poor quality products, i mean i didn't have to argue with them or anything to get them to replace the product all i had to do is have the receipt which luckily for me i kept it and today ups delivered my tub. Well my issue is that they won't offer to cover reinstallation of their faulty product that is leaking water onto my floor after i just paid thousands of dollars to refinish my bathroom which with all this hassle i'm not certain i want to use their products again. I've contacted legal consultation before i contact Masco again to speak to a supervisor or manager and give them another opportunity to resolve this issue. My question is who else has had this problem and what resolutions resulted with your situation.
Larry

Kingsland, GA

#65 Sep 9, 2012
Larry H. ran the company in the ground and the left.

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