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#163 May 8, 2012
What scientific evidence is there gay conversion therapy helps? Hello? Anyone? Yup...none.... only evidence out there suggests that trying to change your sexuality only harms you and is totally ineffective. So if anyone wants to have a discussion without all the logical falicies i see on here, im game.
Furious George

Maury City, TN

#164 May 8, 2012
Glen wrote:
well here's my 2 cents worth, if you think god don't won't us to quote the Bible, then you need to think again.It's there plain as can be, people just don't want to except the truth.When they stand before god on judgement day, and he says depart from me, i never knew you, do you think they will tell him he can't judge them. people wake up.
It's going to be funny when god sends you to hell for wearing polyester. He'll ask you why you ignored Deuteronomy 22:11, and then cast you into the lake of fire. It's there plain as day! Why don't you want to "except" the truth?
Furious George

Maury City, TN

#165 May 8, 2012
answers wrote:
What scientific evidence is there gay conversion therapy helps? Hello? Anyone? Yup...none.... only evidence out there suggests that trying to change your sexuality only harms you and is totally ineffective. So if anyone wants to have a discussion without all the logical falicies i see on here, im game.
Hear hear! In fact, it doesn't seem to work at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/06ga...

It always appears to me that the people talking about "overcoming homosexual urges" are perhaps showing a little more about themselves than they realize. They're usually the most vocal on the issue, too.
Glen

United States

#167 May 8, 2012
Furious George wrote:
<quoted text>
It's going to be funny when god sends you to hell for wearing polyester. He'll ask you why you ignored Deuteronomy 22:11, and then cast you into the lake of fire. It's there plain as day! Why don't you want to "except" the truth?
Hey you pitful person, i don't wear polyester.
Wait a minute

United States

#168 May 8, 2012
God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve.

But... Nevermind... This is just wrong.
Glen

Boynton Beach, FL

#169 May 9, 2012
Wait a minute wrote:
God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve.
But... Nevermind... This is just wrong.
You are right on the first part
Furious George

Maury City, TN

#170 May 9, 2012
Wait a minute wrote:
God created Adam and Eve
Prove it.
Furious George

Maury City, TN

#171 May 9, 2012
Glen wrote:
Hey you pitful person, i don't wear polyester.
So, you've never worn a fabric blend at all? Not just polyester?

Wow! Impressive!

Ever gathered sticks on the sabbath? I'm just wondering what kind of rules you'd consider arbitrary. Surely there's some kind of biblical law you ignore. Maybe the ones regarding women's menstrual cycles? Those are weird enough, right?
Furious George

Maury City, TN

#172 May 9, 2012
Of course, it totally makes sense that the all-powerful creator of the universe would maintain a deep interest in which hairless apes are engaging in sex with other hairless apes who happen to have the same kind of genitalia. Yeah, that's obvious. Right? Right?
adam

United States

#173 May 9, 2012
Wait a minute wrote:
God created Adam and Eve....NOT Adam and Steve.
But... Nevermind... This is just wrong.
WRONG! God created EVERYBODY, adam and eve, adam and steve, doris and diane, all of us! You so called fake christians are pathetic. Keep liveing your lie, come judgement day youll be surprised. Why dont you try to think for yourself and quit letting the preacher do it for you.?
Wait a minute

United States

#174 May 9, 2012
I don't go to church. I think for myself. I don't think a man that can't control his own should be telling me what's right and wrong. I believe what I want. I do what I think is right. And occasionally I like to speak my opinion. Sure god created everyone. But I don't think he created anyone gay or an asshole. I think you choose to be either on your own free will. But that's on y'all. I live with my choice and y'all have to also. I was brought up in a christian environment when I was little. Nothing is the same anymore. My papaw use to say the adam and eve line all the time.
Glen

United States

#175 May 9, 2012
Wait a minute wrote:
I don't go to church. I think for myself. I don't think a man that can't control his own should be telling me what's right and wrong. I believe what I want. I do what I think is right. And occasionally I like to speak my opinion. Sure god created everyone. But I don't think he created anyone gay or an asshole. I think you choose to be either on your own free will. But that's on y'all. I live with my choice and y'all have to also. I was brought up in a christian environment when I was little. Nothing is the same anymore. My papaw use to say the adam and eve line all the time.
Your Papaw was right.
abc

Jackson, TN

#176 May 9, 2012
adam wrote:
<quoted text>WRONG! God created EVERYBODY, adam and eve, adam and steve, doris and diane, all of us! You so called fake christians are pathetic. Keep liveing your lie, come judgement day youll be surprised. Why dont you try to think for yourself and quit letting the preacher do it for you.?
GOD created everyone yes BUT the very first 2 ppl on earth he created was a MAN and FOR THE man was a WOMAN! he created adam & eve man & woman to mate to be fruitful and multiply! he did NOT create a man for a man,he did NOT create a woman for a woman! not sure the scripture someone if you know what im talking about find it for me and post but YES it is a SIN to be homosexual!!!! along with drunkards,and a few other things and that one verse! 2 men cant have sex the way that GOD intended when he made WOMAN FOR MAN! 2 woman cant have sex they way that GOD intended thats why he made a MAN & WOMAN! its sinful to have sex with same sex and everyone knows it! so instead of complaining that us christians are being judgemental i say you are in denial! you know its wrong but enjoy it yourself or knowsomeone going through it and trying to support them BUT read your bible more and you will see it IS a SIN!!!! i dont think by us saying its a SIN is being judgmental! so is being on this topix,lying,spreading rumors,cussing,cheating ect...its a sin also! if you know ure wrong and sinning and ask for gods forgiveness and start living right meaning not doing the sin or sins anymore and truly mean it from your heart,belive in jesus then you can inter the gates of heaven BUT if a person keeps on sinning NO,a person wont go to heaven! you know it,i know it and everyone else knows it but so many ppl love to live in sin and are selfish!
steve

Cookeville, TN

#177 May 9, 2012
even obama voted for same sex marriage today...thats sad!
Anonymous

Olive Branch, MS

#178 May 9, 2012
Bloodhound wrote:
Have you tried Randy isbell? He can counsel you.
Randy has sinned big time against god.
Yes we all should forgive & forget but I would go to someone else before going to him.
FYI

Jackson, TN

#179 May 9, 2012
steve wrote:
even obama voted for same sex marriage today...thats sad!
Obama just gave me one more good reason NOT to vote for him.
Anonymous

Olive Branch, MS

#180 May 9, 2012
adam wrote:
<quoted text>WRONG! God created EVERYBODY, adam and eve, adam and steve, doris and diane, all of us! You so called fake christians are pathetic. Keep liveing your lie, come judgement day youll be surprised. Why dont you try to think for yourself and quit letting the preacher do it for you.?
Uhhhhh...'Adam' you just need to shut up.
You have no idea what you are saying right now.
Yes, my God created everyone but not for the same gender to be together.
If he would have wanted that then he would have made it possible for the gay & lesbian couples to have a baby naturally but can they? NO!
Btw, our preachers don't make our decisions for us..we are still our on person. He is like our counselor. He gives us advice & shares with us the word & we as people decide OURSELVES if we want to listen to him & do the right thing to do.
straight as an arrow

Jackson, TN

#181 May 9, 2012
abc....who ever you are i totally agree with you.....what kind of a leader such as our so called president would vote for that kind of stuff....oh i know he wants the queers vote for the up coming election...well guess what osama obama you won't get this good ol' boys vote....because your belief and mine are heading two different directions...and my opinion on mixing races is the same...i was taught to stay with your own race...and no folks i ain't some racest redneck...i have some real good black friends, who are good ol' boys like myself before you start judging me(Gods job).....and i will teach my children the same as my parents taught me...
thorned rose

Nashville, TN

#182 May 9, 2012
So, I want all the bible thumping know-it-all's to answer this:

What did god intend for the thousands and thousands born with both genitalia? What does the bible say?
doing research

Jackson, TN

#183 May 9, 2012
thorned rose wrote:
So, I want all the bible thumping know-it-all's to answer this:
What did god intend for the thousands and thousands born with both genitalia? What does the bible say?
What is a Biblical View of Transgendered People and Hermaphrodites?
Hello, I would like to know the biblical insight on transgenderism [Definition: appearing as, wishing to be considered as, or having undergone surgery to become a member of the opposite sex] and other sexual defects of the human body. There are lots of issues like hermaproditism and intersexualism [a set of medical conditions where the sex chromosomes, external genitalia, or an internal reproductive system are not considered "standard" for either male or female]. Please try to clear these issues up with sound doctrine.
There are really two issues here: 1) transgendered people and 2) the intersexed (new term) or hermaphrodites (older term).
The first is usually an emotional problem, not really a sexual one. The "transgendered" label reflects a sexual identity confusion and not a true condition. God doesn't create a person with the genitals of a male and the consciousness and heart of a female. In Genesis 1:26, the Bible says, "And God created man in His image, in His likeness; male and female He created them....and it was very good." Maleness and femaleness are God's choice, determined at conception. But growing into one's masculinity or femininity and embracing it can be thwarted by very early events that prevent children from having a clear sense of their gender. Gender identity is a developmental issue, and it starts at birth. All the many, many layers of affirmation and validation of one's personhood that contribute to self-understanding (of which gender is a part) start getting laid down the moment one is born, and they go on hour by hour, day by day, for years in childhood. No wonder so many people think they were born gay, lesbian, or transgendered! They can't remember all the way back to birth when the messages they received about who they were, had yet to be delivered. In addition, some people perceive the messages of parents and family differently than what was intended, and those perceptions ARE their reality.
The biblical view is that God's intent for every male is to grow into masculinity, and for every female to grow into femininity. When that doesn't happen, the culture has come up with new labels to describe something new and different: transgendered, transsexual. I believe God isn't affected by these new labels nor does He have to honor them: He sees the people behind the labels as His precious, broken children. It's only recently that the culture has tried to suggest that "a woman in a man's body" and vice versa is a variation of what is normal and right. The biology of sex alone tells us that homosexuality (under which these other categories of emotional/sexual dysfunction should be put) is not normal. The Bible tells us (Gen 1:26) that God's intent is heterosexuality, with definite boundaries between men and women in both appearance and behavior.(I can give you more information on this concept if you want.)
I recently attended a national Exodus conference, a gathering of about 900 people who are walking out of homosexuality and those who minister to them. It was interesting to me to see people there who would call themselves transgendered, as well as transsexuals who had had sex-change surgery. They were at the conference because of a growing awareness that they had interfered with God's plan for their lives; God had revealed His intent for their gender at birth. They had been living as the opposite sex in a false self that was tragically far from what God had intended for them, and that explained why the great pains to which they had gone to fix their brokenness didn't bring the peace and relief they thought they would get through assuming a new identity and/or having surgery.

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