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#13365 May 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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We're not talking about Republican doom and gloom predictions of what ObamaCare WILL BE, we're talking about real-world results in California.
Big Difference, DoomSayer.
Or you can look at the bigger picture discussed in the article below. Rates are going up, employers are dropping coverage, full time employees are being reduced to part time, cost estimates keep going up - all the things that Obamacare opponents warned about are happening. Those of us in the real world knew that a bureaucrat cannot just declare with the wave of a pen that "now everyone will have healthcare and everyone can keep their own doctors and everything is going to be butterflies and roses and not cost you any more money." There are real world facts and figures that bureaucrats know nothing about and yet they think they can just wave a magic wand and "poof" - all better. Well, as usual, it is "all worse."

http://news.investors.com/032113-648891-obama...

And if Obamacare is so wonderful for everyone, why is it that as of February, over 1,200 waivers have been granted by the Obama administration - mostly to labor unions - well, isn't that special?

And after the IRS scandal over targeting organizations that dared to "criticize the govt", are we really supposed to have faith that the IRS will also oversee Obamacare with complete impartiality and integrity?

Oh, and by the way - all those rosy estimates about California are dependent upon the participation of young people, if they "opt out" - it will be a disaster.
"Still, getting young adults to buy insurance won’t be easy, Levitt warns. The financial penalty for not having coverage next year is fairly small —$95 or one percent of income, whichever is greater. Also, fears abound that young people’s premiums will skyrocket because the health law limits the difference in price between plans for the young and old."

http://blogs.kqed.org/stateofhealth/2013/05/2...

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#13366 May 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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We're not talking about Republican doom and gloom predictions of what ObamaCare WILL BE, we're talking about real-world results in California.
Big Difference, DoomSayer.
California is such a mess. Don't think I'll judge by their results. On a personal level, I am already feeling the sting. My friends are as well.
Again, that was an opinion. I bet someone else could use California as an example and write an article with opposite results. Heck! Even a dem said it was going to be a mess. Of course, he has been kicked out of the smoke and mirrors club now. Play that fiddle, Grasshopper.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13367 May 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/2 3/news/economy/california-obam acare-premiums/index.html
You did read that, right? Different plans. Different costs. Different in other states. Impossible comparisons. What you want to bet, for the best coverage, it's going to be expensive? Obamacare will help the poor, which is great, but the rest of us are going to take a big hit. Want to bet? My premiums for less coverage is already happening.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#13368 May 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
We are the Right Wing Wackos:
We were in charge when 3,000 Americans were killed and the WTC destroyed.
We have the weapons and the money to finance Osama bin Laden to help keep the Soviets from destroying Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
We started three unnecessary wars that continue today.
5,000 American Troops came home in body bags thanks to us.
We left Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan in shambles with rulers more Anti-American than when we started.
Thanks to us, Iran, our enemy, is now Iraq's close ally.
Please trust us to manage wars and foreign affairs.
After all, which are you gonna believe, us, or those damn pesky facts.
We are Union Thugs. Give us what we want or we will break your legs and shut you down. If we have to kill you, we will. Your choice.
We bought and paid for this president. Live with it.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13369 May 28, 2013
Death Panel wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Most real down to earth Democrats are hating and fearing Obamacare. C'mon, we all know this.
It turns my blood cold to see how many Communists we have on this tiny little board. I know their numbers are growing in this country, but this is just frightening to see on here.
Which leads me to this;
I think 'they're' just playing with us. Just to sound different. Just to argue. Just to have a reason to bring their anger and superiority issues in here and smash and burn.
We'll never have real discussions with them because they aren't here for that. I'm choosing to ignore and talk to the sensible folks here.
"It turns my blood cold to see how many Communists we have on this tiny little board."

Betcha thought it was illegal be a commie, a muslim, or gay.

Since: Jan 10

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#13370 May 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Bill in Dunceville continues to beat this dead horse, forgeting that management salaries and compensation are also part of the cost of production and an unfair tax on the consumer, just as any regulations that protect worker safety or the environment are an unfair tax on the consumer.
Another fine example of a Straw Man argument. Poor spelling, too.

Since: Jan 10

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#13371 May 28, 2013
pile of manure wrote:
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Again, proving you are nothing but an arrogant ass. Why should I prove anything, you never do. You can take the time to look it up,$50,000 beds and all its fact. If you think hospitals make any attempt to "contain" costs, you haven't had to use one. They do a great job of treating illness, but a poor job of treating people fairly. The vast majority of business at any hospital is NOT elective surgery, never was, never will be and that's all you are talking about. MY main point is your arrogance in putting down people in Unions for making a decent wage, at the same time you brag about doing the same damn thing! You are a disgrace to the human race, no matter how cool you think you are, you ain't.
As for the put down on my work ethic. I am 63 and still running my business every day, I like to work. I also know for sure I have more assets than you and when I die I will know I didn't have to put other hard working middle class people down all the time to feel good about myself. I also don't feel the need to tell people all the time where I am going and what I am going to do or how much money I have made, but you do it all the time, you pitiful pile of manure.
Didn't have your Wheaties today, either, huh? From your ranting and jumping around in the post, it appears your blood sugar might be low, too.

You can't prove a $50,000 bed cost, so you claim I never prove anything. Change the subject much? Apples and oranges?

Yes, I've had to use hospitals, so much of the "waste" is related to additional tests, etc. that are run to protect the hospital from being sued from clueless leeches like you.

"but a poor job of treating people fairly."

So you didn't get hired for that janitor position, huh? What does treating people fairly have to do with containing costs? Can you stay on one topic?

"The vast majority of business at any hospital is NOT elective surgery, never was, never will be and that's all you are talking about."

What has that got to do with containing costs? Do you know how hospitals are paid/reimbursed? Or, are you just rambling on and on and on???

"I also know for sure I have more assets than you"

Possibly, not likely. If so, good for you? What are you doing with it? But, by bringing it up, who's being an arrogant ass now?

"I like to work."

So did I. Now I like to enjoy life and spend time with my wife and family, because I can. Why don't you?

"I also don't feel the need to tell people all the time where I am going and what I am going to do or how much money I have made,..."

Sure I do. All the time. Wow, telling Will Dockery where I was going when he has an event scheduled now equals all the time. Wow, the clueless and uneducated (another name changer, BTW) has struck again.

Never once have I said what I've made in a post. Nobody's business, and, since it was a private company, not public information. Prove me wrong. What I made at a public company was public information, but it paled compared to others there...

I have stated (in a comment to (I think) "one of many differing names" in a Douglasville thread) that I paid more in federal income taxes than the average person makes in a lifetime in response to a claim that I shouldn't be complaining about federal income taxes because I didn't pay any.

Ended the discussion right there. Kinda like this one.

Since: Jan 10

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#13372 May 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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"It turns my blood cold to see how many Communists we have on this tiny little board."
Betcha thought it was illegal be a commie, a muslim, or gay.
Not illegal to be clueless and uneducated either, is it?
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13373 May 28, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Another fine example of a Straw Man argument. Poor spelling, too.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"The higher pay of union jobs represents nothing more than an unfair tax on consumers."

Begin here and tell us all you know about straw men.

Since: Jan 10

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#13374 May 28, 2013
A post on FB from a pretty sharp person:

"The media has really started to see what is going on after four and a half years of this administration that has been run so amateurishly. Pretty bad when Bob Schieffer has bad things to say about Obama.

Amazing many in the country do not even know or care what is going on with the major scandals. At least when Nixon was screwing the general population, people were paying attention and he was forced out of office. The citizens of the country did what was needed to be done. Now? The answer is that the population has been dumbed down and does not pay attention to Washington raw power seizures by the administration. Not until everyone sees that they have lost their freedoms will they start to complain. Then it will be too late. Just go back and look at the similar occurrences in regimes that controlled their populace."

Since: Jan 10

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#13375 May 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"The higher pay of union jobs represents nothing more than an unfair tax on consumers."
Begin here and tell us all you know about straw men.
I never forgot about management salaries. Show me where I did.

Typical of you and your circle jerk friends, posting something stupid, claiming right wingers support it or were for it.

Best example: none of the people I personally know on this (I'm referencing the Douglasville board, I know this thread is "state wide") board was supportive of GW Bush, or many of his actions, or his out of control spending. Yet, because we're against BO, that makes us supportive of Bush? PLEASE! It's not an either/or situation.

Just because you post something, assume something or infer something from what's posted by another person, doesn't make it their belief unless they said it.

Since: Jan 10

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#13376 May 28, 2013
wonder how they vote (if at all)...

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/54755-obamabo...
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#13378 May 28, 2013
Death Panel wrote:
I'm choosing to ignore and talk to the sensible folks here.
If everyone else followed that guideline, you'd get lonely really fast.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13379 May 28, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I never forgot about management salaries. Show me where I did.
=blah blah blah=
Yeah, that must've been the part you meant to mention.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#13380 May 28, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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clueless and uneducated
Coming from the guy that regularly uses Facebook posts to bolster his arguments.

You know what to do.*hic*
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#13381 May 28, 2013

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#13382 May 28, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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California is such a mess.
Don't I know it. Got a longtime friend out there in the medical business. Doctor works mainly with the elderly.
In the last 9 or so months, he's laid off his assistant, cut the hours of everyone else and had to stop paying holidays, just to make ends meet.
Medicare was already a mess and it was a months long fight just to get 70% of his patients bills paid. Oh the headaches ahead.

My friend doesn't think she'll have a job much longer :(

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#13383 May 28, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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We are Union Thugs. Give us what we want or we will break your legs and shut you down. If we have to kill you, we will. Your choice.
We bought and paid for this president. Live with it.
The videos and quotes I could post to back up those words.

We've all seen the SEIU purple shirts beating up women and old people.
And what was it Trumpka said some years ago? The same Trumpka that boasted about visiting the White House 3-4x a week?

I'll go look it up, lest I be called a liar by the Uninformed.

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#13384 May 28, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
"I also know for sure I have more assets than you"
Bill, how could Pile of Crap possibly know how much more assets he has than you, unless he works for the government?

Cause if that's the case, then he knows how much you earn,
what you own,
who your friends are,
who lives with you,
how much electricity you use...you waster you...
your phone #
your blood type
the mole on your thigh
your medical history
your mothers medical history
what you ate for breakfast last Thursday

etc..

Since: Nov 12

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#13385 May 28, 2013
pile of manure wrote:
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Why should I prove anything, you never do. You can take the time to look it up,$50,000 beds and all its fact. If you think hospitals make any attempt to "contain" costs, you haven't had to use one. They do a great job of treating illness, but a poor job of treating people fairly. The vast majority of business at any hospital is NOT elective surgery, never was, never will be and that's all you are talking about.
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Nope, sorry. You made specific claims as "golf trip" about $50,000 beds and about a scanner that hospitals pay $1,000,000 for while the auto industry pays $20,000. Where is your information from? If you can't support your claims, then we know to look at your posts as just so much of the product that you named yourself after - thanks for the self identifier.

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