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How much defense do you need??
We now spend approx. 739 billion on defense, while the next 10 biggest defense spenders in the world spend approx 488 billion combined!!! That all of them put together spend 251 billion less than the U.S.To me thatís enough, more than enough. To you there is no such thing as enough since you have no common sense. The military is always getting arms they donít really want or need because somebody in Congress thinks it will help him get elected and put some money in supporterís pockets.
When it comes to brood sows and sperm donors who live in ghettos you have no interest in their welfare, you canít. You just make fun of them and doing so seems in your mind to make you a big man. And God still loves you, I doubt God has any respect for you since his Son had just the opposite philosophy, even our forefathers thought it was important. What small amount of money that goes to "promote the general welfare" goes to help a hell of a lot of people who are not the pieces of trash you see in your feeble mind.
I really donít understand how people like you sleep at night,a whole lot of beer would be my guess.
I don't know how well you have thought your whole premise through. You must remember that the United States is the worlds only super power. Why do we need to be a super power you may ask? Because the U.S. has more enemies than any other nation in the world. Think about how many countries would love to rule us and believe me they would start pumping the oil and gas out of this country like you wouldn't believe.
Also the U.S. has a very expensive shield. That shield covers the protection and defense of all the Free World and allies. Other countries do not have to spend as much on national defense as the good old U.S.A. protects them. What are the real numbers that the Russians, N. Koreans, and Chinese spend? I doubt that anyone actually knows for sure. Materials, labor, and pay of the Chinese military is much cheaper in China than here. I am sure that China's military is not feed, housed, or cared for anywhere near the level of our troops. That is a huge cost saver. China's research and military development is also much less costly since they are stealing our military secrets.
It is expensive and has many burdens being the worlds only super power. Like it or not that is how it is. I have a web site listed below that tries to give how much every country spends on national defense.
As for the rest of your statement Redneck can answer for himself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/...

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Mar 15, 2013
 
This is just an example of what I was talking about in my previous comments. Remember it only takes one missile with a nuclear warhead to do unspeakable damage.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/15/17...
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<quoted text>I don't know how well you have thought your whole premise through. You must remember that the United States is the worlds only super power. Why do we need to be a super power you may ask? Because the U.S. has more enemies than any other nation in the world. Think about how many countries would love to rule us and believe me they would start pumping the oil and gas out of this country like you wouldn't believe.
Also the U.S. has a very expensive shield. That shield covers the protection and defense of all the Free World and allies. Other countries do not have to spend as much on national defense as the good old U.S.A. protects them. What are the real numbers that the Russians, N. Koreans, and Chinese spend? I doubt that anyone actually knows for sure. Materials, labor, and pay of the Chinese military is much cheaper in China than here. I am sure that China's military is not feed, housed, or cared for anywhere near the level of our troops. That is a huge cost saver. China's research and military development is also much less costly since they are stealing our military secrets.
It is expensive and has many burdens being the worlds only super power. Like it or not that is how it is. I have a web site listed below that tries to give how much every country spends on national defense.
As for the rest of your statement Redneck can answer for himself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/...
Pleas identify a single country that has the desire and realistic ability to attack our "Homeland" ?

Who says we have to be imperialistic war makers who waste our blood and treasure "protecting" the rest of the world, and invading, bombing, and bribing the countries that don't want our "protection".

The Koreans, Indonesians, Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, Australians, Saudi Arabians, Israelis, Germans, Egyptians, French, Italians, and all the rest of the world,
think we are idiots for bankrupting ourselves to protect their countries for them,
or wasting our money invading, occupying and bombing them,
so they can use their money competing for our jobs, and providing health care, education, and housing for their citizens.

As a Canadian friend told me once, "our country spends its money on education and health care - and we let you spend your money protecting us - which of us is smarter ?"
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Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know how well you have thought your whole premise through. You must remember that the United States is the worlds only super power. Why do we need to be a super power you may ask? Because the U.S. has more enemies than any other nation in the world. Think about how many countries would love to rule us and believe me they would start pumping the oil and gas out of this country like you wouldn't believe.
Also the U.S. has a very expensive shield. That shield covers the protection and defense of all the Free World and allies. Other countries do not have to spend as much on national defense as the good old U.S.A. protects them. What are the real numbers that the Russians, N. Koreans, and Chinese spend? I doubt that anyone actually knows for sure. Materials, labor, and pay of the Chinese military is much cheaper in China than here. I am sure that China's military is not feed, housed, or cared for anywhere near the level of our troops. That is a huge cost saver. China's research and military development is also much less costly since they are stealing our military secrets.
It is expensive and has many burdens being the worlds only super power. Like it or not that is how it is. I have a web site listed below that tries to give how much every country spends on national defense.
As for the rest of your statement Redneck can answer for himself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/...
But you make some good points in my opinion.

But:
we would be just as safe from invasion by Iran's navy if we only had 5 nuclear task forces;
Just as safe from North Korea's Air Force without new 400 Million Dollar fighter jets;
Just as safe from the Chinese navy with only 10 nuclear powdered submarines with nuclear missiles that can destroy their country twice by threatening not to repay out Trillion Dollar debt to China if they tried to invade us.

Nobody says we don't need a War Department - we just don't need to destroy America to protect America.

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Pleas identify a single country that has the desire and realistic ability to attack our "Homeland" ?
Who says we have to be imperialistic war makers who waste our blood and treasure "protecting" the rest of the world, and invading, bombing, and bribing the countries that don't want our "protection".
The Koreans, Indonesians, Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, Australians, Saudi Arabians, Israelis, Germans, Egyptians, French, Italians, and all the rest of the world,
think we are idiots for bankrupting ourselves to protect their countries for them,
or wasting our money invading, occupying and bombing them,
so they can use their money competing for our jobs, and providing health care, education, and housing for their citizens.
As a Canadian friend told me once, "our country spends its money on education and health care - and we let you spend your money protecting us - which of us is smarter ?"

To answer your question who has the desire to attack our country? Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, and any number of other countries that hate our guts.
To answer your second question who has the ability? For sure Russia and China. N. Korea is very near or we wouldn't be putting up a missile defense systems in Alaska. Iran could be nearer than you think as Iran and N. Korea share missile technology.
It would take only one nuclear bomb exploded 150 miles into our upper atmosphere to cause a huge electromagnetic pulse to destroy our country. Just Google EMP and you will be terrified. If you aren't then something is wrong with you.
As far as the U.S. defending all the countries that it does, is wrong. These countries should try to take care of the defense cost of there own countries. Why the U.S. at the very least doesn't charge them for defense protection is beyond me. Why should we pay for their defenses?
One other aspect that I failed to mention. Just follow the money trail to defense contractors. There is a lot of money to be made off that. But there are a lot of jobs that go along with that. Maybe as many as a million or more workers might be laid off and be jobless if they were stopped. How much of the defense industry keeps our countries economy moving? I am betting a lot. It is a double edged sword.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
General Robert E Lee wrote:
Paul Broun in 2014.
And Rand Paul or Chuck Baldwin President 2016!!!
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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Pleas identify a single country that has the desire and realistic ability to attack our "Homeland" ?
Who says we have to be imperialistic war makers who waste our blood and treasure "protecting" the rest of the world, and invading, bombing, and bribing the countries that don't want our "protection".
The Koreans, Indonesians, Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, Australians, Saudi Arabians, Israelis, Germans, Egyptians, French, Italians, and all the rest of the world,
think we are idiots for bankrupting ourselves to protect their countries for them,
or wasting our money invading, occupying and bombing them,
so they can use their money competing for our jobs, and providing health care, education, and housing for their citizens.
As a Canadian friend told me once, "our country spends its money on education and health care - and we let you spend your money protecting us - which of us is smarter ?"
AMEN!!!!!I fear the U.S. goverment a hell of a lot more!!! Our government can seize your property, tap your phone,check your bank records,KILL YOU,hold you indefinately,ALL WITH NO JUDGE,NO JURY and NO WARRANT!!When THEY do something wrong THEY have IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION!!!
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To answer your question who has the desire to attack our country? Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, and any number of other countries that hate our guts.
To answer your second question who has the ability? For sure Russia and China. N. Korea is very near or we wouldn't be putting up a missile defense systems in Alaska. Iran could be nearer than you think as Iran and N. Korea share missile technology.
It would take only one nuclear bomb exploded 150 miles into our upper atmosphere to cause a huge electromagnetic pulse to destroy our country. Just Google EMP and you will be terrified. If you aren't then something is wrong with you.
As far as the U.S. defending all the countries that it does, is wrong. These countries should try to take care of the defense cost of there own countries. Why the U.S. at the very least doesn't charge them for defense protection is beyond me. Why should we pay for their defenses?
One other aspect that I failed to mention. Just follow the money trail to defense contractors. There is a lot of money to be made off that. But there are a lot of jobs that go along with that. Maybe as many as a million or more workers might be laid off and be jobless if they were stopped. How much of the defense industry keeps our countries economy moving? I am betting a lot. It is a double edged sword.
They hate us because WE DON'T MIND OUR BUSINESS and are ALWAYS MINDING THEIRS!!!

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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But you make some good points in my opinion.
But:
we would be just as safe from invasion by Iran's navy if we only had 5 nuclear task forces;
Just as safe from North Korea's Air Force without new 400 Million Dollar fighter jets;
Just as safe from the Chinese navy with only 10 nuclear powdered submarines with nuclear missiles that can destroy their country twice by threatening not to repay out Trillion Dollar debt to China if they tried to invade us.
Nobody says we don't need a War Department - we just don't need to destroy America to protect America.
What do you know? I was just surfing the web and came across this article on EMP. Odd how I was just writing about it. If you don't like that site just Google it.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/dod-u-s-war-machin...

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Possum wrote:
<quoted text>They hate us because WE DON'T MIND OUR BUSINESS and are ALWAYS MINDING THEIRS!!!

We should have not given them money, fuel oil, military assistance, and food to eat. We should have left the murdering dictators in power to kill what was left of them. We should have let those people in all those countries that hate us eat each other instead of feeding them. We are so wicked. Hmmmm
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Possum wrote:
<quoted text>They hate us because WE DON'T MIND OUR BUSINESS and are ALWAYS MINDING THEIRS!!!
Well you obviously are not very bright because ever muslim nation in the world want to destroy the U.S. And it has nothing to do with us invading their lands. It has been common knowledge fo many years. We were attacked in the name of their Allah and I guarantee, had we not struck, it would have already happened again. God Bless our military and what they do. Hate the welfare moochers and stop blaming our military for ridding the world of radical muslims.
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Y'all have nothing to fear. Our fearless leader Obama will talk them to death as he talks us to death.
He has an agenda, confuse the world so he can Golf and Michele can go shopping while on vacation at exotic locations.

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Does anyone seriously believe that spending over a Trillion Dollars a year to illegally invade, occupy, and bomb other sovereign nations that pose no danger to America makes us safer ?
Does anyone really believe that kidnapping, assassinating, and torturing anyone Obama says "is a threat" , including Americans, has made us safer ?
Or has it merely created more and more foreigners with legitimate and reasonable reasons to hate America and our "exceptional" belief we are entitled to kill anyone, anywhere, and bomb anywhere, anytime, it suits our fancy ?
If a drone operated by Cubans occasionally blew up a family sitting down to dinner in Blairsville, because their neighbor made $20,000 for alleging they were a danger to Cuba, wouldn't everyone in Blairsville hate Cubans more than ever ?
Isn't it just true that:
- Iran is stronger than ever;
- After spending Trillions of Dollars invading, bombing and bribing in Iraq, Iran's greatest enemy is now Iran's greatest ally;
- After invading, bombing and bribing every drug warlord in Pakistan, the Pakistani government has now sought U.N. protection from our drone strikes which the rest of the world considers war crimes;
- after spending Hundreds of Billions of Dollars invading, bombing and bribing drug war lords in Afghanistan, the Afghan army that we paid to train and equip is now killing our troops.
- eleven aircraft carrier task forces we built and maintain protect us from no threat of invasion;
- The hundreds of bases we bribe other countries to allow us to maintain in other countries sovereign lands, subsidizes the very countries who use the money they save on defense to educate, house, and provide medical care for their citizens;
- The 3 Billion Dollars we spend each year building new nuclear submarines is 3 Billion every other country on the Earth doesn't spend;
And there is not a single country on the face of the Earth that poses any threat at all to our "national defense".
Boring.
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Pleas identify a single country that has the desire and realistic ability to attack our "Homeland" ?
Who says we have to be imperialistic war makers who waste our blood and treasure "protecting" the rest of the world, and invading, bombing, and bribing the countries that don't want our "protection".
The Koreans, Indonesians, Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, Australians, Saudi Arabians, Israelis, Germans, Egyptians, French, Italians, and all the rest of the world,
think we are idiots for bankrupting ourselves to protect their countries for them,
or wasting our money invading, occupying and bombing them,
so they can use their money competing for our jobs, and providing health care, education, and housing for their citizens.
As a Canadian friend told me once, "our country spends its money on education and health care - and we let you spend your money protecting us - which of us is smarter ?"
Ha!Ha!
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But you make some good points in my opinion.
But:
we would be just as safe from invasion by Iran's navy if we only had 5 nuclear task forces;
Just as safe from North Korea's Air Force without new 400 Million Dollar fighter jets;
Just as safe from the Chinese navy with only 10 nuclear powdered submarines with nuclear missiles that can destroy their country twice by threatening not to repay out Trillion Dollar debt to China if they tried to invade us.
Nobody says we don't need a War Department - we just don't need to destroy America to protect America.
Looney Toons.
gimme a break

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I don't know how well you have thought your whole premise through. You must remember that the United States is the worlds only super power. Why do we need to be a super power you may ask? Because the U.S. has more enemies than any other nation in the world. Think about how many countries would love to rule us and believe me they would start pumping the oil and gas out of this country like you wouldn't believe.
Also the U.S. has a very expensive shield. That shield covers the protection and defense of all the Free World and allies. Other countries do not have to spend as much on national defense as the good old U.S.A. protects them. What are the real numbers that the Russians, N. Koreans, and Chinese spend? I doubt that anyone actually knows for sure. Materials, labor, and pay of the Chinese military is much cheaper in China than here. I am sure that China's military is not feed, housed, or cared for anywhere near the level of our troops. That is a huge cost saver. China's research and military development is also much less costly since they are stealing our military secrets.
It is expensive and has many burdens being the worlds only super power. Like it or not that is how it is. I have a web site listed below that tries to give how much every country spends on national defense.
As for the rest of your statement Redneck can answer for himself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/...
So where in the Constitution does it suggest that we be the caretaker of the planet?

We have more enemies because we continually stick our nose in other countries business or trying to mold some third world slime hole to or way of life, what a waste of money and lives.

You worry about China while spending large part of your spendable income of things made in China. China spends money made from US on education giving lots of people the mental tools to hack our most protected systems. We are letting our education system go to pot while building a new infrastructure in countries that only want our money, Iraq and Afghanistan. How many people have died in those crap holes and for what, thatís a question.

I agree, we are the only superpower, so why keep growing our arsenel. To keep the military industrial complex in business, its all about the money.

EVERY county in the history of the world that attempted to rule the word has failed because of that attempt. We are now seeing that happen here. We have spent and borrowed in our attempt to rule the world and now we are deep in debt and canít even defeat a couple of third world countries.

Itís time love our county for what it does at home and not for being the bully to the world, its time to stop this madness.
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I don't know how well you have thought your whole premise through. You must remember that the United States is the worlds only super power. Why do we need to be a super power you may ask? Because the U.S. has more enemies than any other nation in the world. Think about how many countries would love to rule us and believe me they would start pumping the oil and gas out of this country like you wouldn't believe.
Also the U.S. has a very expensive shield. That shield covers the protection and defense of all the Free World and allies. Other countries do not have to spend as much on national defense as the good old U.S.A. protects them. What are the real numbers that the Russians, N. Koreans, and Chinese spend? I doubt that anyone actually knows for sure. Materials, labor, and pay of the Chinese military is much cheaper in China than here. I am sure that China's military is not feed, housed, or cared for anywhere near the level of our troops. That is a huge cost saver. China's research and military development is also much less costly since they are stealing our military secrets.
It is expensive and has many burdens being the worlds only super power. Like it or not that is how it is. I have a web site listed below that tries to give how much every country spends on national defense.
As for the rest of your statement Redneck can answer for himself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/...
Why doesn't the U.S.A. charge everyone for protection and aid? Like security gaurd companies charges to patrol a business. That would me our military self sustaining and would dramatically cut our national debt. I'd at least have them take it off our tab or protect themselves.

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<quoted text>Why doesn't the U.S.A. charge everyone for protection and aid? Like security gaurd companies charges to patrol a business. That would me our military self sustaining and would dramatically cut our national debt. I'd at least have them take it off our tab or protect themselves.

That could be a good idea as I mentioned in Post 4704. It makes sense and it is practical. It would be a real cost saver to the taxpayers.
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That could be a good idea as I mentioned in Post 4704. It makes sense and it is practical. It would be a real cost saver to the taxpayers.
That's why in one of my previous posts I said the national debt is real, but it's not like anyone's going to come collecting. We feed and protect half the dam world.
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<quoted text>So where in the Constitution does it suggest that we be the caretaker of the planet?

We have more enemies because we continually stick our nose in other countries business or trying to mold some third world slime hole to or way of life, what a waste of money and lives.

You worry about China while spending large part of your spendable income of things made in China. China spends money made from US on education giving lots of people the mental tools to hack our most protected systems. We are letting our education system go to pot while building a new infrastructure in countries that only want our money, Iraq and Afghanistan. How many people have died in those crap holes and for what, that’s a question.

I agree, we are the only superpower, so why keep growing our arsenel. To keep the military industrial complex in business, its all about the money.

EVERY county in the history of the world that attempted to rule the word has failed because of that attempt. We are now seeing that happen here. We have spent and borrowed in our attempt to rule the world and now we are deep in debt and can’t even defeat a couple of third world countries.

It’s time love our county for what it does at home and not for being the bully to the world, its time to stop this madness.
Great post.

Here's a news flash for the Right Wing.

Anyone who has traveled in Muslim countries know that the vast majority of Muslims could not care less about the USA.

They want to live a decent life, raise their kids, and retire some day without starving.

The same is true for the Hindus, Sikhs, Pagans, and those who worship No. 2 Pencils, the Chinese, the Russians, the Antiguans, the Chileans, the Australians; and every other country.

Only Americans are so vain they think the rest of the world cares about us so so so so much.

I wonder if my children will live at least one decade of their lives when America isn't illegally invading, bombing, killing, or torturing somewhere, instead of building our own nation and caring for our own people.

It's the Right Wing press that keeps spreading the idiotic fear of anyone whose not a Right Wing American Fundamentalist Christian Fanatic.

Why are so many Americans so quick to tremble in terror everyone the people who have always been wrong preach their predictably ludicrous fear mongering.

The CIA lied for 20 years claiming the Soviets were so strong and dangerous, when in reality they couldn't even keep their trucks running;

Johnson/Nixon and the gang lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident and everything else, to lie us deeper in the Vietnam War - which they knew was in unwinnable;

Reagan lied about Nicaragua to lie us into bribing, assassinating, and secretly invading that sovereign country;

Bush 1, the ex-CIA chief lied about CIA asset Noriega to lie us into invading Panama;

Bush 2 lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to lie us info that war;

Damn, put on your big boy pants and stop fearing the rest of he world.

Will the Right Wingers ever learn ?,
or is vicariously playing cowboy while sitting on the couch drinking PBR beer so much fun they just don't care ?

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