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Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#2995 Feb 2, 2013
Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>The IRS estimates that the cheapest Obamacare plan for an average family of five will cost $20,000 per year.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
Without addressing whether that is accurate or not, the question is, what difference does it make ?

It costs whatever it costs.

If others don't buy insurance I have to carry their deadbeat parasitic butts by paying even more for my family's health insurance premiums, high out-of-pocket expenses, and higher taxes to subsidize their use of medical care they don't pay for.

Is it now a Right Wing position that personal responsibility doesn't apply to you if you decide it's just too expensive ?

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#2996 Feb 2, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>

Is it now a Right Wing position that personal responsibility doesn't apply to you if you decide it's just too expensive ?
No, the left made that decision for the people when they passed Obamacare.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#2997 Feb 2, 2013
I can't wait for obamacare. Health care is my largest cost each month. Get rid of that expense, and life gets pretty easy again. I figure the costs will be cut almost in half.
As a provider, I can get paid through one system. I can't wait! For real.

So it costs me less, and I can get paid easier. What is not to like about that?

Providing mental health care as a provider has become better just taking just cash, and skipping insurance. I can't wade through the layers of paper. As a consumer, it is too darn high paying for all the people who don't carry it.
Informed Opinion

United States

#2998 Feb 2, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
@Informed Opinion
Regarding light bulbs and soldiers and Obamacare
I was really hoping you were not implying what I thought you were, hence my request for explanation. Unfortunately, you were.

If you want energy independence for this country, we will never get it by following the ideas of the Left because their ideas are not about energy independence - they're about control. Open up ANWR for drilling, open oil production back up in the Gulf and quit limiting our offshore drilling. We allow foreign companies to drill off our coastlines, but we can't - brilliant. He wants to shut down the coal company and the EPA is releasing new standards that are exorbitantly expensive, including those to reduce the amount of mercury released - and yet the Left want to put those stupid lightbulbs in our homes that are far more of a mercury hazard than the coal companies. The same light bulb that must be disposed of as "hazardous waste" and is now being warned against because they leak UV radiation and contribute towards increasing risk of skin cancer - yeah, I want that around my kids. But GE is happy all the way to the bank - love that payback.

Obamacare has nothing to do with personal responsibility and everything to do with government control. How you can possibly see it in any other way just shows you don't understand it at all.

Ronald Reagan summed it up best: "It isn't so much that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so."
Lord, so much false information in such a small post.

Let's just address the most obvious. "We" don't drill anywhere, and "They" don't dril anywhere because there is no "We" and "They" - there are only multinational corporations that owe allegiance to no country - only to profit. That's just reality.

As for the rest:

Did Ronnie Ray-Gun. say that before or after he starred in "Bedtime for Bonzo"; when he illegally sold missiles and guns to his buddy, Osama bin Laden; he had the Marines dumped in Lebanon to be bombed; he doubled the national debt; he had democratically elected leaders assassinated or overthrown in Central and South America; or when he slept through cabinet meetings?

Yep, Ronnie Ray-Gun was right- why would we want to conserve and use alternative energy sources when we can continue to bankrupt the country, destroy our environment, and send thousands of of Marines to die unnecessarily- hey we're protecting the profits of the Muslims and the multinationals and that's what real Americans care about.

Screw our kids. We ain't sacrificing anyway or any how so they can inherit a country where the air is breathable and the water safe to drink - We Right Wing Americans don't change anything or negatively effect corporate profits for nobody.

Same with medical insurance -
screw those liberal suckers who exercise personal responsibility and do without to pay for their own insurance for medical costs -
Real Americans - Right Wingers - We are parasitic deadbeats who talk about personal responsible - but only for everyone else. Real Americans just suck on the health care system taking free health services and care until they qualify for Medicare, when they can continue to take public funds for their medical care.

I already pay over $20K already a year for my family's health care - I better get smart and join the deadbeats and make others pay for me and my family. Yep, that's real American.

And what's great ?

While these deadbeats avoid taking any personal responsibility, refuse any small sacrifices they are asked to make, they you attack the very people paying their bills for them.

Gotta love hypocrisy.

Now make sure and avoid dealing with those pesky facts - follow Karl Rove and Goebbel's advice - just call the messenger some names, even you bi-pedal homo sapien you.

jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#2999 Feb 2, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
I think they haven't figured out your "pimping" them.
apparently not.i kinda like the old man,too.i think he was one of the first to see the lunacy of 'supply side/trickle down' economy.when he sought repulican nomination against reagan,calling it "voodoo economics".but in end,he either 'bought into it' or maybe just gave up trying to fight the more conservative elements in the party.besides,i think he named one of his sons after me.
Informed Opinion

United States

#3000 Feb 2, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>apparently not.i kinda like the old man,too.i think he was one of the first to see the lunacy of 'supply side/trickle down' economy.when he sought repulican nomination against reagan,calling it "voodoo economics".but in end,he either 'bought into it' or maybe just gave up trying to fight the more conservative elements in the party.besides,i think he named one of his sons after me.
Good points.

Thankfully, he named the smart one after you.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3001 Feb 2, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Lord, so much false information in such a small post.
Let's just address the most obvious. "We" don't drill anywhere, and "They" don't dril anywhere because there is no "We" and "They" - there are only multinational corporations that owe allegiance to no country - only to profit. That's just reality.
As for the rest:
Did Ronnie Ray-Gun. say that before or after he starred in "Bedtime for Bonzo"; when he illegally sold missiles and guns to his buddy, Osama bin Laden; he had the Marines dumped in Lebanon to be bombed; he doubled the national debt; he had democratically elected leaders assassinated or overthrown in Central and South America; or when he slept through cabinet meetings?
Yep, Ronnie Ray-Gun was right- why would we want to conserve and use alternative energy sources when we can continue to bankrupt the country, destroy our environment, and send thousands of of Marines to die unnecessarily- hey we're protecting the profits of the Muslims and the multinationals and that's what real Americans care about.
Screw our kids. We ain't sacrificing anyway or any how so they can inherit a country where the air is breathable and the water safe to drink - We Right Wing Americans don't change anything or negatively effect corporate profits for nobody.
Same with medical insurance -
screw those liberal suckers who exercise personal responsibility and do without to pay for their own insurance for medical costs -
Real Americans - Right Wingers - We are parasitic deadbeats who talk about personal responsible - but only for everyone else. Real Americans just suck on the health care system taking free health services and care until they qualify for Medicare, when they can continue to take public funds for their medical care.
I already pay over $20K already a year for my family's health care - I better get smart and join the deadbeats and make others pay for me and my family. Yep, that's real American.
And what's great ?
While these deadbeats avoid taking any personal responsibility, refuse any small sacrifices they are asked to make, they you attack the very people paying their bills for them.
Gotta love hypocrisy.
Now make sure and avoid dealing with those pesky facts - follow Karl Rove and Goebbel's advice - just call the messenger some names, even you bi-pedal homo sapien you.
And I quote "so much false information in such a small post" - I just didn't realize it was the prelude to your post. There really is no getting through such entrenched ideology.
@Bill in Dville - I really must learn to take your advice.
Informed Opinion

United States

#3002 Feb 2, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>And I quote "so much false information in such a small post" - I just didn't realize it was the prelude to your post. There really is no getting through such entrenched ideology.
@Bill in Dville - I really must learn to take your advice.
Why not identify any facts that you claim not to be true ?

Ah.....

Deafening silence.

Because every statement made is completely accurate and well established and leads to the inevitable conclusions drawn.

Nope, you'll never convince me that being a deadbeat is real American, or that destroying our economy and environment, and killing our Marines, to continue our love affair with Arab oil - is patriotic.

We can agree to that.

jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3003 Feb 2, 2013
still full of it wrote:
<quoted text>
The purpose of your comment and the only reason to make it was to show that in you opinin you are a "big shot".I have a business, a business where my customers know exactly what they get and exactly what it costs. They also have the option to COMPARE what I offer and what I charge to lots of other business's selling the SAME THING. Sometimes we have to work on VERY slim margins because a lot of things out of my control add to costs, and people have some idea of what they should pay.
Hospitals on the other hand don't post prices so consumers can choose the best service. Hell you can ask your doctor who performs operations in his hospital all the time, he says he doesn't know. The last operation I paid for was done by a Canadian doctor who MOVED to Georgia to make more money doing the same thing. A brain surgeon going from 1 million to 2 million just by moving. The hospital bill was close to 200 thousand, after insurance it was cut to approx.$ 100,000. I owed 30 thousand to the hospital. After calling the billing department and asking for a cash discount they cut another 20%. If had NOT ask, I would not have gotten the discount. People are used to asking for discounts before hand, not after the service has been rendered and the billing completed, and they know this. When hospitals have cost competition and post prices encouraging competition I will agree with what you say. A lot of hospitals pretend to be not for profit, that just means they overpay administrators to make sure they stay that way, for profits do just fine.
Until hospitals ACT like a business you and your alter ego are still full of crap.
(The waterboy has a much better chance of being President that the players!)
excellent point and factual as well!dub bush was a cheerleader at yale!!

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3005 Feb 2, 2013
Galactic Nacho wrote:
Swahili es la principal lengua hablada en Kenya, Uganda y Tanzania. Tanto los alemanes y británicos han animado al país como una lengua oficial durante la época colonial en los países cercanos al océano Índico.¿Es un inmigrante? Ver, tenemos una conexión, somos como hermanos y hermanas. Tenga cuidado en donde beber agua de y nunca olvidarse de su pasaporte.¿Ha llegado a América y obtener su tarjeta verde por ir a Arizona como hice?
Ya sabes que no hacer eso, usted tonto Rober Lewis.
Columbus Native

Oklahoma City, OK

#3006 Feb 2, 2013
Unfornunely we can't do anything about the horrible damage perpetrated on America by human carnivores like bush/cheney. They should both have gotten lethal injections. Now we have to heal the damages and they will be slow in coming. I thought we had learned our lesson in Vietnam about unwinable wars but 40 years later Americans memories got dulled and off to Iraq we go. Now we can't put the blame solely on bush/cheney because it took 52% of the voting fools in this country to allow them in there for 8 stressful years. Hopefully it will be atleast another 40+ years before Americans are conned into another completly stupid war. I will say though that it was one hell of a propaganda show right before the Iraq war by cheney going into the CIA dept. 4 to 5 times a day one week before invading Iraq. He was presuring them into feeding the media with mass lies about the mass destruction possibilties that Saddam actually never had. Even had me a bit worried. I thought they were 6 months from having a nuclear missile capable of hitting the USA. Then better judgement prevailed and considering the nature of Haliburton/cheney I came to my senses and said to myself,no this is a scam run by the worst human flesh eaters our country has ever witnessed.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3007 Feb 2, 2013
still full of it wrote:
<quoted text>
The purpose of your comment and the only reason to make it was to show that in you opinin you are a "big shot".I have a business, a business where my customers know exactly what they get and exactly what it costs. They also have the option to COMPARE what I offer and what I charge to lots of other business's selling the SAME THING. Sometimes we have to work on VERY slim margins because a lot of things out of my control add to costs, and people have some idea of what they should pay.
Hospitals on the other hand don't post prices so consumers can choose the best service. Hell you can ask your doctor who performs operations in his hospital all the time, he says he doesn't know. The last operation I paid for was done by a Canadian doctor who MOVED to Georgia to make more money doing the same thing. A brain surgeon going from 1 million to 2 million just by moving. The hospital bill was close to 200 thousand, after insurance it was cut to approx.$ 100,000. I owed 30 thousand to the hospital. After calling the billing department and asking for a cash discount they cut another 20%. If had NOT ask, I would not have gotten the discount. People are used to asking for discounts before hand, not after the service has been rendered and the billing completed, and they know this. When hospitals have cost competition and post prices encouraging competition I will agree with what you say. A lot of hospitals pretend to be not for profit, that just means they overpay administrators to make sure they stay that way, for profits do just fine.
Until hospitals ACT like a business you and your alter ego are still full of crap.
(The waterboy has a much better chance of being President that the players!)
Okay. I just connected the dots. Apparently YOU think BillinDville and I are alter egos??? Man! Just can't get anythng past you , huh? rotfl The only thing altered here is YOU!(couldn't resist.)
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3008 Feb 2, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya sabes que no hacer eso, usted tonto Rober Lewis.
my spanish being even worse than my english(no mean feat,huh),would translating comment & reply?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3009 Feb 2, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
@Informed Opinion
Regarding light bulbs and soldiers and Obamacare
I was really hoping you were not implying what I thought you were, hence my request for explanation. Unfortunately, you were.
If you want energy independence for this country, we will never get it by following the ideas of the Left because their ideas are not about energy independence - they're about control. Open up ANWR for drilling, open oil production back up in the Gulf and quit limiting our offshore drilling. We allow foreign companies to drill off our coastlines, but we can't - brilliant. He wants to shut down the coal company and the EPA is releasing new standards that are exorbitantly expensive, including those to reduce the amount of mercury released - and yet the Left want to put those stupid lightbulbs in our homes that are far more of a mercury hazard than the coal companies. The same light bulb that must be disposed of as "hazardous waste" and is now being warned against because they leak UV radiation and contribute towards increasing risk of skin cancer - yeah, I want that around my kids. But GE is happy all the way to the bank - love that payback.
Obamacare has nothing to do with personal responsibility and everything to do with government control. How you can possibly see it in any other way just shows you don't understand it at all.
Ronald Reagan summed it up best: "It isn't so much that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so."
+1 Excellent post. I admire your tenacity, but you are waaaaaay over the Left's intellectual conprehension ability. Apparently, they NEED complete government control over their lives.
Bored

Adel, GA

#3010 Feb 2, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Lord, so much false information in such a small post.
Let's just address the most obvious. "We" don't drill anywhere, and "They" don't dril anywhere because there is no "We" and "They" - there are only multinational corporations that owe allegiance to no country - only to profit. That's just reality.
As for the rest:
Did Ronnie Ray-Gun. say that before or after he starred in "Bedtime for Bonzo"; when he illegally sold missiles and guns to his buddy, Osama bin Laden; he had the Marines dumped in Lebanon to be bombed; he doubled the national debt; he had democratically elected leaders assassinated or overthrown in Central and South America; or when he slept through cabinet meetings?
Yep, Ronnie Ray-Gun was right- why would we want to conserve and use alternative energy sources when we can continue to bankrupt the country, destroy our environment, and send thousands of of Marines to die unnecessarily- hey we're protecting the profits of the Muslims and the multinationals and that's what real Americans care about.
Screw our kids. We ain't sacrificing anyway or any how so they can inherit a country where the air is breathable and the water safe to drink - We Right Wing Americans don't change anything or negatively effect corporate profits for nobody.
Same with medical insurance -
screw those liberal suckers who exercise personal responsibility and do without to pay for their own insurance for medical costs -
Real Americans - Right Wingers - We are parasitic deadbeats who talk about personal responsible - but only for everyone else. Real Americans just suck on the health care system taking free health services and care until they qualify for Medicare, when they can continue to take public funds for their medical care.
I already pay over $20K already a year for my family's health care - I better get smart and join the deadbeats and make others pay for me and my family. Yep, that's real American.
And what's great ?
While these deadbeats avoid taking any personal responsibility, refuse any small sacrifices they are asked to make, they you attack the very people paying their bills for them.
Gotta love hypocrisy.
Now make sure and avoid dealing with those pesky facts - follow Karl Rove and Goebbel's advice - just call the messenger some names, even you bi-pedal homo sapien you.
Boring as usual.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3011 Feb 2, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>apparently not.i kinda like the old man,too.i think he was one of the first to see the lunacy of 'supply side/trickle down' economy.when he sought repulican nomination against reagan,calling it "voodoo economics".but in end,he either 'bought into it' or maybe just gave up trying to fight the more conservative elements in the party.besides,i think he named one of his sons after me.
"apparently not"???? Sure we have. Don't ever underestimate.......
L.H.
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3012 Feb 2, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
"apparently not"???? Sure we have. Don't ever underestimate.......
L.H.
???
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3013 Feb 2, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
"apparently not"???? Sure we have. Don't ever underestimate.......
L.H.
lost me on that one bud.....way over my head..
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3014 Feb 2, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
"apparently not"???? Sure we have. Don't ever underestimate.......
L.H.
still working on it,meantime will you please inform these folks that bush,jr. was 'really' a cheerleader at Yale.
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#3015 Feb 2, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>still working on it,meantime will you please inform these folks that bush,jr. was 'really' a cheerleader at Yale.
and to show that i am balanced and fair,bush,sr. was an very good baseball player(3rd base)with pro potential,scouting reports said he had great 'D'-but weak stick(lacking strong bat).at any rate,he ended up in politics,for better or worse!

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