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State arbitrator reinstates Eagan principal fired over toilet i...

There are 52 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 12, 2009, titled State arbitrator reinstates Eagan principal fired over toilet i.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

An elementary school principal in Eagan, who was fired after making a 6-year-old kindergartner remove paper towels from a toilet with his bare hands, will instead be suspended for 15 days without pay.

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Since: Jan 09

Dugway, UT

#1 Aug 12, 2009
Sounds like the parents are the real problem here. I don't see anything wrong with what the principle did. It's called punishment, something severely lacking this day and age.
ConcernedParent

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Aug 12, 2009
Time to --terminate-- the -school board- and -superintendent- for displaying such poor judgment! They wanted to fire a principal for doing his job? What are they smoking? I hope the voters of 191 remember this when all of the school board members are up for re-election. and SHAME ON the superintendent!
Martha

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Aug 12, 2009
He did the right thing. It will be interesting to see where this kid is in 20 years.
geno

Mound, MN

#4 Aug 12, 2009
This kid is going to be a problem for his parents in the future. What would the parents done if the child had had to stand facing the corner of the room or put a a desk in the hall.
LOV DA SAINTS

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Aug 13, 2009
geno wrote:
This kid is going to be a problem for his parents in the future. What would the parents done if the child had had to stand facing the corner of the room or put a a desk in the hall.
The real problem IS the parents! The parents should not have let this go this far.

Since: Jul 08

Brooklyn Park

#6 Aug 13, 2009
lobster68w wrote:
Sounds like the parents are the real problem here. I don't see anything wrong with what the principle did. It's called punishment, something severely lacking this day and age.
Shoot, my parents would have added a little punishment of their own, just to make sure it didn't happen again. This kid's dad has issues.
EastSide_Thomas

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Aug 13, 2009
I went to a Catholic grade school in the 1960s and was taught by nuns. If the parents thought that the principal's "punishment" of this student was harsh, they have no idea of what harsh is. Those nuns I had as teachers would have been amused at this story.

Making that kid remove a few pieces of paper towels from a clean toilet was exactly what should have been done to teach that kid a lesson. One has to wonder just how much time/effort/money was spent on this over reaction by all concerned.

And we all scratch our heads at the low test scores.
Enough already

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Aug 13, 2009
Wow! Seven comments in a row with which I can agree 110%. The principal did exactly what he should have done.
Bah Humbug

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Aug 13, 2009
The father of the kid has been threatening the principal according to the Star Trib. He says "They have not heard the last from me(us)" or words to that effect. That can only mean lawsuit. Daddy needs a new Harley, pickup, or fishing boat.
Candace

Madison, WI

#11 Aug 13, 2009
EastSide_Thomas wrote:
I went to a Catholic grade school in the 1960s and was taught by nuns. If the parents thought that the principal's "punishment" of this student was harsh, they have no idea of what harsh is. Those nuns I had as teachers would have been amused at this story.
Making that kid remove a few pieces of paper towels from a clean toilet was exactly what should have been done to teach that kid a lesson. One has to wonder just how much time/effort/money was spent on this over reaction by all concerned.
And we all scratch our heads at the low test scores.
I also spent 8 years of discipline by Catholic nuns. Today their many of their punishments would border on abuse. Other friends and I have had many discussions about some of the nuns that were just mean spirited, mal-adjusted individuals who obviously disliked children. There were some very good ones as well but somehow the ones that made it to principal were the worst.
Monkeyx

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Aug 13, 2009
IT looks like the two schools where that principle worked were two of the very few schols where progress was made. Most of the burnsville schools were on the failure list. Not Rahn elem. where this guy ran the show, or byrne which the article says he worked for a long time and probably hired many good teachers. what a mistake by the district!
Daily Grind

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Aug 13, 2009
I don't have a problem with the principal making the kid pluck the paper that the little twit threw into the toilet.
I just wonder why he didn't put a boot to kids ssa and then one to the kids father and as long as he is at it, line up the school board and give each one of them one or two swift kicks.
Was that over the top, cause sometimes I can never tell?
Kristine

Fergus Falls, MN

#14 Aug 13, 2009
How utterly absurd! The child was given discipline which made him take responsibility for his wrongdoing in a manner that did not publicly humiliate him. He came to no harm from it, nor was likely to as ordinary hand-washing is generally sufficient. The parent who harassed the teacher and the school district should be bearing the penalty, not the principal who acted in a manner that would have (without parental overinvolvement) simply taught an important life lesson.
Big Al

Kelseyville, CA

#15 Aug 13, 2009
Good decision. Suspension rather than firing was appropriate. He probably should have given the child rubber gloves and taught him a lesson in hygiene at the same time.
Liz

United States

#16 Aug 13, 2009
Someone was going to have to pull the paper towels out of the toilet! What is wrong with having the person who plugged it do it?? That teaches RESPONSIBILITY for your own actions...
Catcher InTheRye

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Aug 13, 2009
He should remained fired.
Amabo Atoyot Ahamay

Gig Harbor, WA

#18 Aug 13, 2009
The error the school made was in not summoning the parents immediately and making them pull the damn towels out. With their teeth.

Since: Mar 09

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 13, 2009
Yep, seems the parents or (father) may be the problem here. Glad that the principle is redeemed. (to a point)
Catcher_Rye isTheParent

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Aug 13, 2009
Catcher InTheRye is Elijah Hannah. Give it up dude.
SouthSideJohnny

Chicago, IL

#21 Aug 13, 2009
The teacher had to get a restraining order against the father and the school hired a security guard for the entrance. It was the parents who were nuts and out of control on this one. Mr. Steele was a good principle.

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