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Wow

New York, NY

#51 Apr 17, 2011
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>I know this is a tired old phrase, however, "We're here, We're queer, get used to it! I don't need to tone anything down, since this is what it's all about. Telling me to act "straight" would not be any different than me telling you to act "gay". I don't think you would be comfortable with that at all.
Fair enough Mark but hear me out and don't take it personal. You admittedly don't prefer woman so why do you emulate a feminine personality? Embrace your masculinity whatever your sexual preference, it won't make you less gay. Acting effeminate only draws ire and uneasiness to your way of life.
bait hoven

New Bedford, MA

#52 Apr 18, 2011
Your sexual preference gives you you NO RIGHT to demand special treatment- gay or straight, freaks are freaks- and vioent idiots threaten straight people too, call the police or beat his ass..now lets all get naked
SOUTH UTICA

Watertown, NY

#53 Apr 18, 2011
I have heard very nice things about this bar. Good for the owners who do not let people sit there and suck face. I am straight and I hate being in a bar watching a male and female getting all horned up. GET A HOTEL ROOM for crying out LOUD! I will be making a visit to this bar the next time I go out. Thank you for holding your establishment to a new high. Its called RAISING THE BAR! We need more owners like the ones at this bar.
lez bean

Utica, NY

#54 Apr 18, 2011
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you totally. I myself have experienced the same thing there, and will not go back and will tell all my freinds, gay and straight, to avoid this place. The owners seem clueless and inexperienced about how to run a bar. They can't have it both ways. The bar has to be either completely straight or completely gay. Both types of crowds don't mix well with each other. If they continue with the ambiguity, they won't last long as neither group will go there. The side entrance is scary and uninviting. The owners are an insult to the gay community as they have discouraged gay clientele from entering and are using an arbitrary dress code to exclude those they feel are dressed too gay or act gay. I don't understand this. After years and years of gay men and women having experienced discrimination, these nitwits owners are promoting the same sort of thing towards fellow gay people. This is unaceptable. The fact that the owners did nothing to defend and protect a customer is not acceptable. They are responsible for the safety of everyone, and need to remove anyone in their establishment who is threatening the safety of others. If that disruptibe, and most likely intoxicated, person had attacked you, the owners of the bar can be held legally responsible. I've written this place off already. The people running it don't know what they are doing, and I don't want to be there when and if a fight breaks out and they have no plan of action or the personnel available to break it up. Besides all that, I don't feel a need to fork over $8 for the privilege of walking through their dimly lit alley door or having to worry if I will even be allowed to enter because I'm wearing the wrong shoes or jeans or sweatshirt or maybe just because I'm acting too darn gay.
The bar has to be completely gay or completely straight ? What are you living in the 1960's in Alabama. " Black water fountain over there boy" Just when I begin to believe this area is progressing someone says something ignorant

Since: Feb 11

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#55 Apr 18, 2011
Hey, Fat. Most gay men take great pride in their appearance and also enjoy looking at other in-shape guys. So I'm guessing they were probably gagging if they looked at your rear! Your comments just help strengthen the mental pic of the Utica stereotype. Dumb farmer who thinks he has class caus ehe has a few bucks! Glad you left. Sure they don't want biggots in the place anyway, you small-minded jerk!
Mark

Syracuse, NY

#56 Apr 18, 2011
lez bean wrote:
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The bar has to be completely gay or completely straight ? What are you living in the 1960's in Alabama. " Black water fountain over there boy" Just when I begin to believe this area is progressing someone says something ignorant
Maybe I could have said the bar needs to be completely gay or completely lesbian. That way all the bull dykes could hang out together where they won't be bothering the rest of us.
Mark

Syracuse, NY

#57 Apr 18, 2011
SOUTH UTICA wrote:
I have heard very nice things about this bar. Good for the owners who do not let people sit there and suck face. I am straight and I hate being in a bar watching a male and female getting all horned up. GET A HOTEL ROOM for crying out LOUD! I will be making a visit to this bar the next time I go out. Thank you for holding your establishment to a new high. Its called RAISING THE BAR! We need more owners like the ones at this bar.
Most of what I have heard about it has been negative, and I have no intention of going back again.
Hello

Bronx, NY

#58 Apr 18, 2011
Sounds like a cool place. I'm going to check it out. : )
FYI

Rome, NY

#59 Apr 19, 2011
I am also gay like yourself. I love the place. Never had a problem being there and I'm there alot. You sound like a flaming queen, I wouldn't want to listen to your gay sh!t either.
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Most of what I have heard about it has been negative, and I have no intention of going back again.
FYI

Rome, NY

#60 Apr 19, 2011
Wow wrote:
<quoted text>Keep it up or I'll hit you with your own purse! Seriously dude(you're a MAN), do you have to go overboard with the gay thing? Tone it down a little bit and maybe people will be more receptive to your chosen lifestyle. Sheesh!

I agree totally!!!
Mark

Jamesville, NY

#61 Apr 19, 2011
Wow wrote:
<quoted text>Fair enough Mark but hear me out and don't take it personal. You admittedly don't prefer woman so why do you emulate a feminine personality? Embrace your masculinity whatever your sexual preference, it won't make you less gay. Acting effeminate only draws ire and uneasiness to your way of life.
The whole point here is that people should be free to be themselves. Being a gay man encompasses a large spectrum of different aspects. There is everything from the flaming queen/drag queen to the kind of guy who is exactly like any straight guy. It's all about the freedom to be yourself. The problem with this bar is that they are discouraging this. If you don't look and act straight and blend in with the straight crowd, then you are not welcome. They are putting gay rights back into the closet by telling gay clientele that they have to look straight in order to be welcome. This is the sort of thing that was common back in the 1950's. Why go back to that kind of nonsense? Being gay is not a matter of choice, and people should be free to be themselves. If you like going to a place that has filtered the clientele down to only straight looking gay people, then by all means, get out of your closet and go there. All the owners have accomplished is to make a closet that serves booze to closeted gays and straight people. They have actually managed to create a bar with a worse atmosphere than That Dump, which I never thought would ever be possible. Only in Utica!
misty winters

El Monte, CA

#62 Mar 24, 2012
Ok I want to make a comment....ok i know of this tranny bc they kicked her out and said it wasnt in the dress code.....im not the same tranny that ur talking about but.....I'm a verry passable transgendered female .... my best friend and I wanted to go somewhere differant so we tried strut.....BIG MISTAKE.....I bought a drink started dancing and having fun it was so boaring in there we started to liven the party up....then I needed to use the bathroom I had to use the handicapped bc they knew I was a tranny.....humiliated me and made me feel like I was the freak.....where is this going to end up....anyone kno a good lawyer???
Larry

Verona, NY

#63 Mar 24, 2012
misty winters wrote:
Ok I want to make a comment....ok i know of this tranny bc they kicked her out and said it wasnt in the dress code.....im not the same tranny that ur talking about but.....I'm a verry passable transgendered female .... my best friend and I wanted to go somewhere differant so we tried strut.....BIG MISTAKE.....I bought a drink started dancing and having fun it was so boaring in there we started to liven the party up....then I needed to use the bathroom I had to use the handicapped bc they knew I was a tranny.....humiliated me and made me feel like I was the freak.....where is this going to end up....anyone kno a good lawyer???
This bar, Strut, totally disgusts me. I never thought I would see the day when two gay men would open up a bar, and then launch offensive policies towards the greater gay community. They should be welcoming in members of the gay community, who they are supposed to be a part of. The oweners of this bar are gay, yet they act like gay people are not welcome there. These morons don't know how to properly run a bar. I don't know how viable it would be to hire a lawyer. The burden of proof would be on you and it would most likely be expensive. The best thing to do, especially in a small town like Utica, is to tell all your friends about what happened there. When it comes to a small local business, word of mouth is everything. This bar has had negative issues like this against the gay community since it has opened.
Hillary Pussywillow

Syracuse, NY

#64 Aug 11, 2012
I"ve tried to get a laywer to sue Strut's. George Murad. He won't take it because there's not enough money. Maybe the ACLU should sue.
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Brian

Tully, NY

#65 Aug 11, 2012
Strut is a half baked attempt at being trendy and it just does not work. They are trying to darn hard and they need to stop deciding who is the "right" customer and who is the "wrong" customer. I'm surprised they have lasted as long as they have. The only explanation might be is that most of the other bars in Utica are not much better.
David

Deerfield Beach, FL

#66 Aug 11, 2012
Jeff Utica wrote:
I was in there with my wife and friends on several occasions and I didn't think it was expensive. Actually pretty reasonable considering the atmosphere. Not your typical Utica hole!! I can tell you that in no way have I ever felt uncomfortable with any customer or staff. Actually have some great bartenders and I can tell you weren't gay. At least that's the impression I got when I met her fiancee. Bernadette, Diane, Clint and Wade are all very professional. A few weeks ago I did see a couple of cross dressers come in and were not let in because their photo id didnt match their appearance. Go figure! Either way I have always enjoyed myself there and have never been made to feel uncomfortable. Guess you have to be comfortable in your own skin and accept people for who they are. Based on some of the comments above I think that some people should take a hard look in the mirror.
Jeff, should you say mirror or closet.

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