Kids playing in the streets

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The Old Man

South Holland, IL

#1 May 31, 2009
Can anyone explain why the kids are allowed to play basketball in the streets, blocking traffic and yet when the police department is called, they do not even check it out. We do have posted ordinances and yet they mean nothing. What is the police dept. afraid of??? The kids ???

No wonder people are scared to be outside, even in the daylight hours let alone when it gets dark.

What is this new Mayor and Board going to do to take control of this town back???
Another

AOL

#2 May 31, 2009
Worse than that , I was walking my dog just before dusk and I saw a child's ball rolling into the street followed by what appeared to be a two-year old who did not listen to the pleas of his seven-year old brother not to run into the street. Luckily , the driver of the car saw the child as he stood motionless in the street sucking on his finger. Why is it that such young children are playing outside with no adult supervision? I also saw a group of about ten children of varying ages playing in the park near St.James church at 9:30 at night. Where are the parents? Don't they care?What else are they irresposible about?
17 yr SV Taxpayer

Oak Forest, IL

#3 May 31, 2009
Well, I guess if the parents of these kids aren't supervising them, then maybe the police should give out tickets or maybe even better, report them to DCFS for not supervising their children.. That is a form of neglect. When one of those kids gets injured or killed, you better believe the parents will be screaming and hollering.. As far as the police checking it out, Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.. Sauk Village doesn't have enough police officers for the amount of people in this town..
The Old Man

South Holland, IL

#4 Jun 1, 2009
Sauk Village does have an ordinance regulating this behavior of kids in the street. They can ticket them. It was published in Sauk Talk, with the article from the police chief speaking about this problem. Sauk Village does have enough officers on the force, it just appears they would rather stay in the station or only on Sauk Trail. The other night, there was an officer running a check on an auto from Iowa while 6 houses before that, there were at least 15 kids playing basketball, after 9:00 PM in the street. From the direction the police car was facing, he had to drive past these kids. What is wrong here???
Outside Observation

United States

#5 Jun 1, 2009
The Old Man wrote:
Sauk Village does have an ordinance regulating this behavior of kids in the street. They can ticket them. It was published in Sauk Talk, with the article from the police chief speaking about this problem. Sauk Village does have enough officers on the force, it just appears they would rather stay in the station or only on Sauk Trail. The other night, there was an officer running a check on an auto from Iowa while 6 houses before that, there were at least 15 kids playing basketball, after 9:00 PM in the street. From the direction the police car was facing, he had to drive past these kids. What is wrong here???
Since when is playing BASKETBALL illegal? So instead of the kids shooting hoops, they should be out shooting firearms, breaking into your house or car? What makes you people think handing out tickets to section 8 residents who cannot & will not pay these fines will accomplish anything? NEWSFLASH: it wont! These people who allow their children to play in the street unsupervised{not talking about basketball}& run all over town at all hours of the day/night, clearly have no respect for themselves, their children or anybody else in the neighborhood. So how are tickets going to solve the problem? The police can sit & write these people violations all day long & it will not make a difference at all. It is time for the PARENTS to take responsibility for the actions of their children & stop blaming the police or whoever else for their problems. Instead of whining, crying & complaining about how "the police dont do anything" people should get involved in their own neighborhoods. It is not the job of the police to raise your children for you. It is the job of the police to deter & investigate crime, enforce local/federal laws, etc. By the way, as stated before by another poster, SV definately DOES NOT have anywhere close to enough police officers to work the streets for a town of this size. It starts at home, if there was actual parenting in these homes, these kids would not be loitering all over & would not be kicking in your doors & stealing all your property while you are away at work. The residents have to "take the town back". Anytime I call the SV police, they respond almost immediately.
116 Crew

Justice, IL

#6 Jun 2, 2009
I have been reading everyones post on this site for a while. Sorry to jump into your conversation however "Outside Observation" is almost right. Kids are kids and they should play. Think back when you were a child and how you played. Sure it may not have been in the street...so where did you go? The issue is that the kids in Sauk Village have no where to go. They have no where to play and gather. So they gather in the street. This is more of a out cry. Kindof like civil disobedience. We should be fighting for the Kids to have a place to go and play instead of trying to ticket them or run them over. Kids are going to do something...play basketball in the street...basketball in a gym...or tear Sauk Village apart because of pure boredom.

Since: Oct 08

Midlothian, IL

#7 Jun 2, 2009
First of all, great post for the subject. But I think we need to clarify what we are most frustrated with. It's not the kids playing ball in the street with a hoop, that generally move out of the way for traffic to pass, then resume play when traffic clears on the less busier streets and courts of the Village.

What reasonable person would? As long as they aren't hitting cars as they pass, yelling obscenities at the passing drivers, etc. no reasonable person would have a problem with them playing ball anyways. Let's face it. All of us grew up in the Village playing ball or catch, or something in the street, but were mindful and respectful of traffic and cars passing by.

We're talking about the 6-10 wide wanna-be thugs that purposefully block the roadway, and refuse to move when traffic is present, primarily on 221st Street, Yates, 223rd street, and other various main thru streets of the Village. ALL of these streets have either sidewalks or center medians which can be used, however these groups decide it is more entertaining to block traffic.

Three years ago, a couple was traveling down the one way 222nd street from Torrence towards Orion. Longtime residents of Sauk Village that had moved away for retirement. They encountered a group like this, and as they passed, they hit the side of the car. When the man stopped, they felt that reaching through the open windows and assaulting the man and his wife whom suffered from Lupus would be just retalliation. Breaking her nose, and blackening his eye, outraged neighbors outside on this particular summer day, called Police and pointed out which houses the groups scattered to throughout the neighborhood. Arrests were made, but the fact remains that if Sauk Village Police enforces the law for one group, they must enforce it for all groups. Unfortunately, those that are simply trying to play ball and recreational sports cannot be omitted, and it could be said their opportunities for having fun has been ruined by the previously described groups.

So there you have it. The mere fact of purposefully blocking a roadway, and playing sports is clearly defineable in Sauk Village and to the reasonable person. And when ticketing one group, you cannot show favoritism towards another group in the eyes of the law. The shame of it is, that the bad always ruin it for the good. That will continue whether they play in a gym, street, or otherwise.

But then again, there would be no need for the ordinance anyway, if parents would be parents, teach their children respect, and to do the right thing, so they respect the law instead of disrespect it, we wouldn't have this problem in Sauk Village.
Good Parent

Morgan Hill, CA

#8 Jul 23, 2009
I have lived in sauk village since i was 15... I am now 35. I am raising my 14 year old son is sauk village....i let him play basketball on his rim in front of my house, because i am scared to let him play at hte park... because of the drug dealers and gangbangers that hang out there. I am scared to let him walk to the store. i take him to better areas to play, i take him to outings, but kids like to play/// please don't pre judge every kid playing basketball outside, it isn't because there parents don't care about them, some parents like me need to keep their kids close. and this is coming from a parent whose child is an honoroll student, attending Marian in the fall. I have talked to my neighbors, they are okay with him playing, we just make sure the rim, isn't out long, and we respect the traffic, however, they are not in the middle of the street, they are right off my driveway
another opinion

Hazel Crest, IL

#9 Jul 23, 2009
You have nailed it on the head and there's nothing I can add to your comment. It's ashame the previous administration decided to use over $9 million on a new city hall instead of taking some of that money and investing it into the town. There's no reason why Sauk Village couldn't have a football team, baseball team, new parks etc. This is a comman thought but the police department. THe kids need a place to play and need outlets to keep them off the streets.

However, instead $9 million went into a build were 9 people are employed working 9-5. For the most part, the kids in the town are good kids. Most when playing basketball move out of the way for drivers. I have a feeling the complaints are more deep rooted than just the mear fact they're playing basketball. Also arrowhead park, the basketball court was redone and the kids play there all the time with no problems with "drugs and gangbangers".

It's amazing how some of the people on this forum can sit here and say the police department does nothing. Apparently those folks would rather have police resources spent on writing kids in the street and playing basketball. The police department is under staffed based on the towns population and thats going to be the case in the foreseeable future.

The unrulely kids in the town can be blamed on poor parenting and/or no parenting at all. Also, if you think DCFS is going to do anything, well, you best start doing some research. I've talked to several officers in town, and in most cases, the DCFS cases are closed as unfounded. That's right another governmental institution that has failed.

Stop blaming the police for the inability for some parents in the town not being able to do their job. Unfortunately anyone can make babies, but it takes love and caring and hard work to raise them. That's something which is lacking in Sauk Village in a lot of cases.
Outside Observation wrote:
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Since when is playing BASKETBALL illegal? So instead of the kids shooting hoops, they should be out shooting firearms, breaking into your house or car? What makes you people think handing out tickets to section 8 residents who cannot & will not pay these fines will accomplish anything? NEWSFLASH: it wont! These people who allow their children to play in the street unsupervised{not talking about basketball}& run all over town at all hours of the day/night, clearly have no respect for themselves, their children or anybody else in the neighborhood. So how are tickets going to solve the problem? The police can sit & write these people violations all day long & it will not make a difference at all. It is time for the PARENTS to take responsibility for the actions of their children & stop blaming the police or whoever else for their problems. Instead of whining, crying & complaining about how "the police dont do anything" people should get involved in their own neighborhoods. It is not the job of the police to raise your children for you. It is the job of the police to deter & investigate crime, enforce local/federal laws, etc. By the way, as stated before by another poster, SV definately DOES NOT have anywhere close to enough police officers to work the streets for a town of this size. It starts at home, if there was actual parenting in these homes, these kids would not be loitering all over & would not be kicking in your doors & stealing all your property while you are away at work. The residents have to "take the town back". Anytime I call the SV police, they respond almost immediately.
Former Trustee

United States

#10 Jul 23, 2009
HEY PARENTS--- tell your kids GET OUT OF THE STREETS!!!

Are people retarded or what?

Here it's simple:

ROAD=CARS
Sidewalk=PEOPLE
CARS+PEOPLE=STUPID

Now all you parents go explain that to the kids.. my kid is 5 she already knows.
Former Trustee

United States

#11 Jul 23, 2009
JUST TO CLARIFY--- I'm not saying ALL PEOPLE OF SAUK VILLAGE only those parents that think it's OK to let kids walk in the streets! Before I get a bunch of SOUR FACES!!!! HAHA
Ear plugs

Oak Forest, IL

#12 Jul 29, 2009
What about the car radios they blast all hours. Does anyone hear them ?
eseeR1981

Munster, IN

#13 Sep 14, 2009
116 Crew wrote:
I have been reading everyones post on this site for a while. Sorry to jump into your conversation however "Outside Observation" is almost right. Kids are kids and they should play. Think back when you were a child and how you played. Sure it may not have been in the street...so where did you go? The issue is that the kids in Sauk Village have no where to go. They have no where to play and gather. So they gather in the street. This is more of a out cry. Kindof like civil disobedience. We should be fighting for the Kids to have a place to go and play instead of trying to ticket them or run them over. Kids are going to do something...play basketball in the street...basketball in a gym...or tear Sauk Village apart because of pure boredom.
Yeah, because if we spent thousands of our hard earned tax dollars on a place for these "children" to play, they wouldn't tare that to pieces too. These people dont respect the things they are given because they dont have to work or pay for it.
lyc70

Nanjing, China

#14 Sep 15, 2009
I feel too luxury for their living conditions to help their grown in haughty.[img]http://www.snagpi c.com/users/img/4676/n09x0302v nsn/clear.gif[/img]
The Old Man

South Holland, IL

#15 Sep 16, 2009
Now that the village has now renewed the contracts of the police chief, who will be running the police department and will the new chief be enforcing the village ordinances, as they should be.

Also now that the fire chief resigned and the director of the public works has been told his contract will not be renewed, where is the village headed. Especially when the board remarks that they do not know if they have enough money to make the payroll.
Jeanine

Hazel Crest, IL

#16 Sep 16, 2009
Your post is confusing, you said the village has renewed the contract of the police chief, which means they renewed the contract of the current chief, but then you ask about the new chief of police, did they renew the contract of the current police chief or not? If the fire chief resigned, a new one will be appointed/hired, director of public works is the same. The village will be headed in the direction of the new department heads.
The Old Man wrote:
Now that the village has now renewed the contracts of the police chief, who will be running the police department and will the new chief be enforcing the village ordinances, as they should be.
Also now that the fire chief resigned and the director of the public works has been told his contract will not be renewed, where is the village headed. Especially when the board remarks that they do not know if they have enough money to make the payroll.
Observer

United States

#17 Sep 16, 2009
Kids have been walking in the streets in this town since forever. It has nothing to do with government not providing them with places to go and things to do. It has to do with a lack of proper parenting. It doesn't "take a village" to raise a child. It takes responsible parents. Don't blame the cops for someone's poor parenting.
This is true

Oak Forest, IL

#19 Sep 17, 2009
I agree that this problem is a lack of parenting, buy when parents won't parent what are you going to do. Years ago you did'nt have as many kids in this town, and when an adult told you to get your but home you moved. There was a respect factor there. Now, you tell them to move, YOU get yelled at, flipped off, told that they gonna get you, and you end up driving on the parkway to get out of the way. You can't reason with these people! and they fear nothing, steal everything, and destroy any town they move into.And by the way, Politics is so corrupt, it makes me sick. So we have no more choices because people buy into all their crap and elect these people into office. Run, people run.

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