New tax considered by Franklin County

New tax considered by Franklin County

There are 32 comments on the Press-Republican story from Sep 6, 2011, titled New tax considered by Franklin County. In it, Press-Republican reports that:

Written comments will be accepted until Wednesday, Sept. 14, and may be sent to Clerk of the Board of Legislature, 355 West Main St., Malone, NY, 12953 or by email to [email protected] . MALONE - Franklin County is holding simultaneous public hearings next week on whether it should collect an extra $5 to $10 on vehicle registrations.

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Oswego, NY

#1 Sep 6, 2011
What do you think of this one?
Whuh Tiff

Albany, NY

#2 Sep 6, 2011
Some tax ideas:
-Make Route 11 a toll road, with booths set up by Walmart and the Market Barn
-A cigarette/stroller tax: You must pay for and display a permit in order to operate a cigarette and a stroller at the same time
-A tax on the Malone Telegram for every misspelled word or incorrect grammar usage
All revenues will go to provide upgraded cell phones for people on benefits.
interesting

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#3 Sep 6, 2011
I think I'm being taxed to death. How about cutting welfare instead of taxing those of us who actually work?
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Oswego, NY

#4 Sep 6, 2011
Whuh Tiff wrote:
Some tax ideas:
-Make Route 11 a toll road, with booths set up by Walmart and the Market Barn
-A cigarette/stroller tax: You must pay for and display a permit in order to operate a cigarette and a stroller at the same time
-A tax on the Malone Telegram for every misspelled word or incorrect grammar usage
All revenues will go to provide upgraded cell phones for people on benefits.
LOL.....
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Oswego, NY

#5 Sep 6, 2011
interesting wrote:
I think I'm being taxed to death. How about cutting welfare instead of taxing those of us who actually work?
They never talk about cutting welfare. The government was even threatening to withhold the social security checks yet no one ever threatens the welfare people.
Not in Kansas

Ithaca, NY

#6 Sep 6, 2011
Maybe the 5 cent surcharge on shopping bags was not as bad as it sounded. It would have collected $51,000 a month through just one store. If it was applied throughout Franklin County we might be talking a minimal land tax increase.

Combine that with some changes in social services and we might of gotten by with single digit land tax increases.

We can't stand much more in land taxes.
rifleman73

Syracuse, NY

#7 Sep 7, 2011
Let's face it they are up to their necks in quicksand,and are reaching out to every Department Head on ways to cut or other ways to generate revenue,they should go after the State they owe Franklin County about 8 million,why is Bryan Varin saying the County is in good shape and the Board wants to TAX us another $10.00 dollars for vehicle regs.can't be he was at the last Dept. Head meeting??????????
Wing Nut

United States

#8 Sep 7, 2011
New tax,, no way,,, remember when Earl Lavoie pushed for a 2% increase in Franklin county,, saying how it would help us all? What it did was give the legislators more money to spend on more projects and up our dependence on that tax increase. Well that was a joke,, we still got the 2% tax, it never went away, now they want to put tax on vehicle registrations making them higher,, cutting spending is never a high button issue, this county is being destroyed one tax at a time.
Yup

Ithaca, NY

#9 Sep 7, 2011
rifleman73 wrote:
Let's face it they are up to their necks in quicksand,and are reaching out to every Department Head on ways to cut or other ways to generate revenue,they should go after the State they owe Franklin County about 8 million,why is Bryan Varin saying the County is in good shape and the Board wants to TAX us another $10.00 dollars for vehicle regs.can't be he was at the last Dept. Head meeting??????????
8 million for what?
Terri Hawthorne

United States

#10 Sep 7, 2011
Being pretty new to trying to understand how taxation works I have a question to ask. Why is it that here and in the gen. public whenever there is a suggestion to raise taxes everyone jumps on SS people. Not all are useless ind. The little money they get don't go far. I know there are people who make a job of being on the system but what about those that have no choice. I would rather support the bums in my community than send billions to other countries for war and just about any other kinds of relief you can name.The money people on SS spend in the community stays here and there are government pay backs. We should be trying to get money from what appears to be disposable money instead of taking money from people who have nothing to begin with.
Yup

La Fayette, NY

#11 Sep 7, 2011
Terri Hawthorne wrote:
Being pretty new to trying to understand how taxation works I have a question to ask. Why is it that here and in the gen. public whenever there is a suggestion to raise taxes everyone jumps on SS people. Not all are useless ind. The little money they get don't go far. I know there are people who make a job of being on the system but what about those that have no choice. I would rather support the bums in my community than send billions to other countries for war and just about any other kinds of relief you can name.The money people on SS spend in the community stays here and there are government pay backs. We should be trying to get money from what appears to be disposable money instead of taking money from people who have nothing to begin with.
Because they're teabagger republicans, and bitching about social security is the only thing in their repertoire. It's like when you train a parrot to talk, you keep repeating the same thing, over and over, until the bird, not at all intelligent, starts spewing the phrase on its own. Same thing. They've been trained to spew this particular phrase, because while people are defending social security, they aren't considering the actual problem... that the rich and corporations get a free ride in this country. Republicans and teabaggers are ALL ABOUT preserving that free ride for the rich and for corporations.
Yup

La Fayette, NY

#12 Sep 7, 2011
Yup wrote:
<quoted text>8 million for what?
PHONEY
rifleman73

Syracuse, NY

#13 Sep 7, 2011
Yup wrote:
<quoted text>8 million for what?
I stand corrected that was the year of the long drawn out state budget.I think this year it is close to a million give or take.These monies are sent to the Counties to implement programs,and just like Franklin County the State is jugging monies here and there to make ends meet.And it seems like Franklin County always is the last one to receive.The new County Manager has put it to the Board simply CUT your SPENDING anyway you can or RAISE TAXES----Their backs are againist the wall!
Terri Hawthorne

United States

#14 Sep 7, 2011
Thank you Yup but I should have said Social
Services instead of SS which you took to mean Social Security.
More simply put I have a hard time understanding how this country can send billions to other countries but take away from Social Security and Social Services when they need money.
People on this forum bash and blame S Services people but you only see Franklin Co. In the city people live in cars with children, sleep on vents and die in the streets. Fortunately not much of that happens in Franklin Co. but I have to say that I would rather help to support the bum here in Malone than contribute to a person from another country who will grow up to build bombs to blow us up
Other Side

Ithaca, NY

#15 Sep 7, 2011
Terri - you have a point. There are people receiving Social Services who need it. The little old lady who has to choose between medication and heat if she does not get HEAP.

For the slackers and lifetimers, all of us need to get better at reporting them. The county and state are dying to get after people who are abusing the system. While we complain about waste in Social Services to slackers and lifetimers, we need to be proactive and report these people for welfare fraud. The next time you check out behind someone who is abusing social services and food stamps, get a name and report it. If your neighbor across the street never worked a day in his life but has money for cigarettes and beer, report him. Let's go after the abusers and take care of those who need it.

I think it was Rochester last year, a family was living in their car. Mom took 2 of the kids to the nearby service station to use the bathroom. A third child was left in the car. The car was towed and never checked and the child died.
Whuh Tiff

Albany, NY

#16 Sep 7, 2011
Terri Hawthorne wrote:
Thank you Yup but I should have said Social
Services instead of SS which you took to mean Social Security.
More simply put I have a hard time understanding how this country can send billions to other countries but take away from Social Security and Social Services when they need money.
People on this forum bash and blame S Services people but you only see Franklin Co. In the city people live in cars with children, sleep on vents and die in the streets. Fortunately not much of that happens in Franklin Co. but I have to say that I would rather help to support the bum here in Malone than contribute to a person from another country who will grow up to build bombs to blow us up
You are suggesting that we only have two choices: support the local bum or send money overseas.

What about a third choice? If my taxes are lowered, then I will have more money. I'll be spending that money in the local community.

These arguments have been back and forth on Topix for awhile now, but my problem isn't with supporting people who need it. I ave a problem with all the people in Malone who are on ss but who:
-Seem to be physically able to work
-Have satellite dishes or cable (not a necessity)
-Have food delivered to them all the time
-Smoke and drink alcohol excessively

It is very frustrating to have to budget and do without luxury items while people who live near me seem to have those luxuries.

I don't know what the solution is. We can't just cut everyone off, but we need to take care of these perks.
Whuh Tiff

Albany, NY

#17 Sep 7, 2011
Other Side wrote:
Terri - you have a point. There are people receiving Social Services who need it. The little old lady who has to choose between medication and heat if she does not get HEAP.
For the slackers and lifetimers, all of us need to get better at reporting them. The county and state are dying to get after people who are abusing the system. While we complain about waste in Social Services to slackers and lifetimers, we need to be proactive and report these people for welfare fraud. The next time you check out behind someone who is abusing social services and food stamps, get a name and report it. If your neighbor across the street never worked a day in his life but has money for cigarettes and beer, report him. Let's go after the abusers and take care of those who need it.
I think it was Rochester last year, a family was living in their car. Mom took 2 of the kids to the nearby service station to use the bathroom. A third child was left in the car. The car was towed and never checked and the child died.
Reporting people won't work. It is not against the law to buy beer and cigarettes with cash. People you report will just say they returned some empty cans or were given some money by a friend.
Terri Hawthorne

United States

#18 Sep 7, 2011
Although I agree with what you are all saying. The question is still not really answered. If we have billions to send to other countries to help build schools, hospitals and to rebuild after disasters why shouldn't we be able to have that money so those of us who work and even those on Social Services do not have to loose the little that we have. We also need better schools and hospitals and not one person in the US should have to sleep in cars or on the street so that we can send money overseas.
Whuh Tiff

Albany, NY

#19 Sep 7, 2011
Terri Hawthorne wrote:
Although I agree with what you are all saying. The question is still not really answered. If we have billions to send to other countries to help build schools, hospitals and to rebuild after disasters why shouldn't we be able to have that money so those of us who work and even those on Social Services do not have to loose the little that we have. We also need better schools and hospitals and not one person in the US should have to sleep in cars or on the street so that we can send money overseas.
I think a big problem is that government programs are entrenched. It is very difficult to get rid of something without annoying special interest groups. Plus, programs get lump sums, and people without voter accountability get to decide how to divide that huge sum.

It is too bad the government can't just hit reset. Wipe out all government money, start from zero, and make people publicly justify every penny requested. That will take care of a lot of waste.
blamekids

United States

#20 Sep 7, 2011
mail it in. They make it too complicated here and they are not the nicest group of woman working there. I don't know if it is the clientel or the worker themself. Take the politics out of the Dept and it would work a lot better.

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